What the 2012 election taught us

Nov 6, 2012 Full story: The Washington Post 10,324

We've been scouring the data for clues as to what we should learn from what happened tonight as President Obama relatively easily claimed a second term.

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Not Real Sure

Hobbs, NM

#2815 Nov 21, 2012
Eric Gustafson wrote:
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Bush was very caring to the poor, It was Bush who extend the Food Stamp spending through the 2002 and 2007 Farm Bill, where Food Stamp spending is allocated.
He paved the path and increased the rolls of those receiving Food Stamps to over 30 Milllion, double the 15 Million Obama is credited.
Only those who have no idea about how government works wouldn't know. The Farm Bill only comes out for negotiation every 5 years. The 2012 Bill hasn't been finalized just yet it's delayed in Congress. I expect it before the New Year, that corporate pork in the bill is needed by the Corporate Farm industry.
Is it delayed with your BUDGET ???? you are really a rocket scientist !!! you should be on Jeopardy....
Not Real Sure

Hobbs, NM

#2816 Nov 21, 2012
Eric are you sure your last names not really Einstein ???? it has to be ....Tell the truth
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#2817 Nov 21, 2012
Not Real Sure wrote:
<quoted text>Is it delayed with your BUDGET ???? you are really a rocket scientist !!! you should be on Jeopardy....
Tell us professor, when was the last Federal Budget Bush signed into law, or any Republican President for that matter.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#2818 Nov 21, 2012
Not Real Sure wrote:
<quoted text>OMG we have a Genius among us..... Eric you should run for something ,Maybe be the head of the Cockbitedicklick.org ....you say you own a business, pretty sure you couldn't run your finger in your ass ,much less a company
You're disgracing yourself again. Is that a gay porn web site? How are you so familiar with such a thing, aren't you evangelic? The Larry Craig in you is busting loose.
Not Real Sure

Hobbs, NM

#2820 Nov 21, 2012
Eric Gustafson wrote:
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You're disgracing yourself again. Is that a gay porn web site? How are you so familiar with such a thing, aren't you evangelic? The Larry Craig in you is busting loose.
Are you in the pilots association ??? I am To
Not Real Sure

Hobbs, NM

#2821 Nov 21, 2012
Not Real Sure wrote:
<quoted text>Are you in the pilots association ??? I am To
Im not the democrat here,,,,thats the stuff you guys believe in ,,,not me
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#2822 Nov 21, 2012
Eric Gustafson wrote:
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If we deny minorities loans and access to banking services based solely on the color of their skin does that sound like equal treatment to you?
In America we conducted business in that fashion longer than we have has laws extending equal access to banking services for minorities and still took their deposits and tax money to guarantee funds in citizens banking accounts. Investing their funds in communities other than those the minorities lived in, does that sound fair if we are talking about fair. 100
You're essentially correct. Banks are in the business of loaning money, not taking deposits. So if a bank takes money from a poor area, the theory is it must be a good enough place to invest in.
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#2823 Nov 21, 2012
Not Real Sure wrote:
<quoted text>Are you going to state on the record, that minorities don't get special treatment ,on business loans ...especially SBA loans....you need to check your facts.....because you are talking out your ass...
Are you talking federally backed loans?
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#2824 Nov 21, 2012
Not Real Sure wrote:
<quoted text>Ok dipsh*t let's see if we can explain this to where you can understand.....(doubtful) First your butt buddy Barney Franks Was the head of the housing committee ??? Right or wrong ??? next the committee put pressure on the banks to cut leniency to minorities ??? Right or wrong ??? Loans were given to people that could not afford the houses they were approved !!!! next, these are some facts ,individuals that were making less then $35,000 a year were getting approved on houses up to but not limited to $400,000. dollars... Tell me wizard ,where the problem was ??? Maybe Freddie or Fanny ???They could barely afford the interest payments alone...so if you wanna point a finger, lets start there....
Sounds like capitalism to me!

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#2825 Nov 21, 2012
sage won wrote:
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The government doesn't spend one dime on corporate welfare. Give me one instance of the government sending a check to a corporation.
Corporations benefit all of us, how do welfare, food stamp receivers, section 8 moochers, etc. benefit us?
you are nuts, do you know what Subsidizing is, Conservative term for Welfare for Corporations.

This report is a collection of other reports and documents on Corporate Subsidies only, although it does include some general information on the Oil & Gas Industry, Farm Subsidies and Tax Expenditures. A more specific report on the latter three can be found in reports linked at the bottom.

NOTE: There are literally hundreds of reports on Corporate Subsidies. Many are undermined by self-serving purposes, but some are not. You may find a mixture of those in this report. In addition, depending on what and who these reports included or excluded, the total dollars for a particular subsidy will vary, sometimes considerably.

http://cps-news.com/wp-content/corporate-welf...
Not Real Sure

Hobbs, NM

#2826 Nov 21, 2012
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>Are you talking federally backed loans?
Absolutely
Not Real Sure

Hobbs, NM

#2827 Nov 21, 2012
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>Sounds like capitalism to me!
Capitalism???? or socialism ????
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#2828 Nov 21, 2012
sage won wrote:
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idiotic sophistry, again. No minorities' money is taken and given to anyone else. try again with another lie.
lol! You're such an idiot son. You keep trying to sound intelligent but you keep putting your ever shortening foot into your mouth.

And the worse part is, not only CAN'T you back your claims, FACTS DISPROVE YOU!

I love con comedy. It's something new every time!

http://www.fdic.gov/about/learn/symbol/
"Who is the FDIC?
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The Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) preserves and promotes public confidence in the U.S. financial system by insuring deposits in banks and thrift institutions for at least $250,000; by identifying, monitoring and addressing risks to the deposit insurance funds; and by limiting the effect on the economy and the financial system when a bank or thrift institution fails.

An independent agency of the federal government, the FDIC was created in 1933 in response to the thousands of bank failures that occurred in the 1920s and early 1930s. Since the start of FDIC insurance on January 1, 1934, no depositor has lost a single cent of insured funds as a result of a failure.

The FDIC receives no Congressional appropriations – it is funded by premiums that banks and thrift institutions pay for deposit insurance coverage and from earnings on investments in U.S. Treasury securities. The FDIC insures approximately $9 trillion of deposits in U.S. banks and thrifts – deposits in virtually every bank and thrift in the country...."

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#2829 Nov 21, 2012
sage won wrote:
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No one has ever heard of this book. anyone can write a book, lunatics do it all the time. And BTW Dingus, Bush isn't the pres. and hasn't been for 4 years.
i do fault Bush for being not conservative enough, probably because he's a nice guy and didn't want to be accused of being uncaring for the poor, ie. welfare mooching non producers.
you are proving to be a Useful Idiot and not helping the Political Right's cause.

Bruce Bartlett

Bruce Reeves Bartlett (b. October 11, 1951, in Ann Arbor, Michigan) is an American historian whose area of expertise is supply-side economics. He served as a domestic policy adviser to President Ronald Reagan and as a Treasury official under President George H. W. Bush.

Bartlett has written several books and magazine articles critical of the George W. Bush Administration, whose economic policies he believes significantly depart from traditional conservative principles.

Criticism of George W. Bush administration

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Bartlett#C...

Impostor: How George W. Bush Bankrupted America and Betrayed the Reagan Legacy
by Bruce Bartlett

http://www.conservativebookservice.com/produc...

Former Reagan Advisor angry Bush 'bankrupted America'

BRUCE BARTLETT: Bankrupt America? Yes, I think that we have had something like a $20 trillion increase in the national debt under this president's watch and I think that one of these days, I don't know when, but one of these days, the chickens are going to come home to roost.

http://www.deepjournal.com/p/7/a/en/590.html

Since: Aug 11

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#2830 Nov 21, 2012
Not Real Sure wrote:
<quoted text>Capitalism???? or socialism ????
Socialism.
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#2831 Nov 21, 2012
Not Real Sure wrote:
<quoted text>Absolutely
lol! Ok. I just wanted to make sure you weren't talking capitalism here.
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#2832 Nov 21, 2012
Not Real Sure wrote:
<quoted text>Capitalism???? or socialism ????
lol! Really son? There's nothing the government is doing or enforcing upon others.

So far all I see is your opinion.

Since: Aug 11

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#2833 Nov 21, 2012
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>lol! Really son? There's nothing the government is doing or enforcing upon others.
So far all I see is your opinion.
In this article, you'll explore capitalism: its roots, principles and effects, benefits and shortcomings. You'll find out how capitalism compares to the alternative method of doing business. Incidentally, the United States doesn't actually practice capitalism. No one does these days.

Befor­e the Industrial Revolution in the 1800s, countries like Britain and the United States had true capitalist economies. With industrialization, though, came sweat shops, social protest and resulting government intervention in the form of fair labor laws. That's when real capitalism ended.

Today, the economies of nations that are typically referred to as capitalist are in fact mixed economies -- they incorporate certain aspects of capitalism and certain aspects of planed economies. In pure capitalism, things like child labor laws, Social Security, anti-discriminatory hiring practices and a minimum wage have no place. Capitalism rejects all government intervention in economic matters.

The basis of capitalism is individualism. The economic system stems from humanistic ideals of the 18th century European Enlightenment -- beliefs that each human being is individually unique and valuable. This mode of thinking was a turning point. Before the Enlightenment, governments didn't talk about human rights. But in this vision of humanity, a society made up of unique individuals who pursue their individual interests is healthy -- it's characterized by progress, spiritual and worldly wealth, and liberty. Individuals are not just free to pursue self-interested goals; they should pursue self-interested goals.

http://money.howstuffworks.com/capitalism.htm
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#2834 Nov 21, 2012
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>In this article, you'll explore capitalism: its roots, principles and effects, benefits and shortcomings. You'll find out how capitalism compares to the alternative method of doing business. Incidentally, the United States doesn't actually practice capitalism. No one does these days.
Befor­e the Industrial Revolution in the 1800s, countries like Britain and the United States had true capitalist economies. With industrialization, though, came sweat shops, social protest and resulting government intervention in the form of fair labor laws. That's when real capitalism ended.
Today, the economies of nations that are typically referred to as capitalist are in fact mixed economies -- they incorporate certain aspects of capitalism and certain aspects of planed economies. In pure capitalism, things like child labor laws, Social Security, anti-discriminatory hiring practices and a minimum wage have no place. Capitalism rejects all government intervention in economic matters.
The basis of capitalism is individualism. The economic system stems from humanistic ideals of the 18th century European Enlightenment -- beliefs that each human being is individually unique and valuable. This mode of thinking was a turning point. Before the Enlightenment, governments didn't talk about human rights. But in this vision of humanity, a society made up of unique individuals who pursue their individual interests is healthy -- it's characterized by progress, spiritual and worldly wealth, and liberty. Individuals are not just free to pursue self-interested goals; they should pursue self-interested goals.
http://money.howstuffworks.com/capitalism.htm
lol! I never thought of capitalism being more or less born by Muslims!

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#2835 Nov 21, 2012
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>except for te glaring fact that after historic job loss whhen he took office, obama h=now hhas the US back to the same number of jobs. that would be historic job growth...
kind of shoots down your theories...
The unemployment rate in 12/08 was 7.4. Under Obama it was over 9% for two years and as high as 10.1 in 10/09. Although it was down to 7.8% in 10/12, I think you will see it start increasing soon. Maybe not this year due to additional employment around the holidays.

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