Obama may push for ban on assault weapons

Oct 17, 2012 Full story: The Indian Express 668

Democratic President Barack Obama and Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney engaged in a rare tussle over gun control on Tuesday, and Obama opened the door to pushing for a ban on assault weapons if he wins a second term.

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Since: Jul 12

Chester, VA

#536 Nov 26, 2012
eternal cynic wrote:
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Bullshit. Knowingly is not a cover word. Iíve sold many firearms privately. If I get a feeling I shouldnít make the sale I wonít.
As a private individual Iím not required to keep records of who Iíve sold to. I do, but Iím not required.
OK, I got passed your first statement and your second answers a good part of my questions. The fact that you are not required to keep records indicates you really do not have to do anything other than hand over the gun as you accept the cash.

I kind of rest my case at this point.

Since: Jul 12

Chester, VA

#537 Nov 26, 2012
eternal cynic wrote:
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We will see if it was a lie or not. Obama has four more years to prove the NRA correct. Look at Obamaís past voting on gun control bills.
I would be more concerned with the Republicans in the House and Senate.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#538 Nov 26, 2012
okb2 wrote:
<quoted text>Imagine that. People have been walking for some time now and they still fall down occassionally. You might even do it once in a while or come really close.
Did you get any straws with that grasp?
Does the Government regulate people's legs, gait, shoe preferences, body mass index, or coordination while walking?
Hmmm. What was the relevance of your comment, other than to detract with smoke and mirrors?

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#539 Nov 26, 2012
okb2 wrote:
<quoted text>Imagine that. People have been walking for some time now and they still fall down occassionally. You might even do it once in a while or come really close.
Maybe when the government requires registration of your legs, a license to walk, and you tripping and falling kills someone on a regular basis, oh, and you can fall to intentionally commit homicide, your reply will be valid.

Since: Jul 12

Chester, VA

#540 Nov 26, 2012
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you get any straws with that grasp?
Does the Government regulate people's legs, gait, shoe preferences, body mass index, or coordination while walking?
Hmmm. What was the relevance of your comment, other than to detract with smoke and mirrors?
What was your comment relevant to? We were discussing "rights" and you comment on people driving cars still have accidents. Planes still crash too.

Is your point that the government should not required testing for operation and certification of safe construction of planes and cars? Trains?

Just admit you lost the argument on rights and now you are just seeing how silly we can get with it.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#541 Nov 26, 2012
okb2 wrote:
<quoted text>What was your comment relevant to? We were discussing "rights" and you comment on people driving cars still have accidents. Planes still crash too.

Is your point that the government should not required testing for operation and certification of safe construction of planes and cars? Trains?

Just admit you lost the argument on rights and now you are just seeing how silly we can get with it.
The relevance of my comment is this :
You think more government regulation of guns is the answer. I pointed out after your statement that one must pass a test to drive, that despite those government regulations, people are killed by automobiles numerous times daily, and vehicles are even used as the primary weapon in homicides. So the point is, more government regulation is not the answer.

Since: Jul 12

Chester, VA

#542 Nov 26, 2012
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
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The relevance of my comment is this :
You think more government regulation of guns is the answer. I pointed out after your statement that one must pass a test to drive, that despite those government regulations, people are killed by automobiles numerous times daily, and vehicles are even used as the primary weapon in homicides. So the point is, more government regulation is not the answer.
How can you say that after knowing the number of the laws on the books today and I think only 2 - 4 laws nationwide will suffice. That eliminates over 19,000 laws doesn't it?

And yes, despite any regulation covering anything to include nuclear disasters bad things still happen. So you would do away with all regulation? Before you say no, you just said more government regulation is not the answer.

Rather than eliminating regulation on nuclear plants, I am for getting the regulation right. But we can do it your way and locate the next one next to you.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#543 Nov 26, 2012
okb2 wrote:
<quoted text>How can you say that after knowing the number of the laws on the books today and I think only 2 - 4 laws nationwide will suffice. That eliminates over 19,000 laws doesn't it?

And yes, despite any regulation covering anything to include nuclear disasters bad things still happen. So you would do away with all regulation? Before you say no, you just said more government regulation is not the answer.

Rather than eliminating regulation on nuclear plants, I am for getting the regulation right. But we can do it your way and locate the next one next to you.
You want gun registration, do you not?
Vehicles are registered, are they not?
Vehicles kill more people every year in the US than guns do.
Considering citizens do not have access to nuclear weapons, what is your point?
Besara

Des Moines, IA

#544 Nov 26, 2012
bushie wrote:
NRA made 422 million off of telling people lies and working for the gun maker last year. Anything to get the peoples money. IT's WORKS
They did? Got proof?
Austinite

Austin, TX

#546 Nov 26, 2012
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
<quoted text>
You want gun registration, do you not?
Vehicles are registered, are they not?
Vehicles kill more people every year in the US than guns do.
Considering citizens do not have access to nuclear weapons, what is your point?
Cigarettes and alcohol kill hundred thousand or more in America a day, should people register their bottle of whisky or pack of cigarettes when they buy them?

Since: Jul 12

Chester, VA

#547 Nov 26, 2012
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
<quoted text>
You want gun registration, do you not?
Vehicles are registered, are they not?
Vehicles kill more people every year in the US than guns do.
Considering citizens do not have access to nuclear weapons, what is your point?
Show me one time I said registration would prevent all deaths by firearms. Just once.

My point is you are being facetious. I thought that was clear in an earlier post.

Since: Jul 12

Chester, VA

#548 Nov 26, 2012
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
<quoted text>
You want gun registration, do you not?
Vehicles are registered, are they not?
Vehicles kill more people every year in the US than guns do.
Considering citizens do not have access to nuclear weapons, what is your point?
Does regiatration and License Tags assist police in solving crimes or is it all just a waste of money?

“Voters elect Big Bird”

Since: Jan 07

Dump American Eagle

#549 Nov 26, 2012
okb2 wrote:
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What was your comment relevant to? We were discussing "rights" and you comment on people driving cars still have accidents. Planes still crash too.
Is your point that the government should not required testing for operation and certification of safe construction of planes and cars? Trains?
Just admit you lost the argument on rights and now you are just seeing how silly we can get with it.
Teddy Kennedy's car has killed more people than ALL my firearms combined......

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#550 Nov 26, 2012
Austinite wrote:
<quoted text>Cigarettes and alcohol kill hundred thousand or more in America a day, should people register their bottle of whisky or pack of cigarettes when they buy them?
Exactly my point.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#551 Nov 26, 2012
okb2 wrote:
<quoted text>Show me one time I said registration would prevent all deaths by firearms. Just once.

My point is you are being facetious. I thought that was clear in an earlier post.
Show me where I stated that you said registration would prevent all deaths by firearms.
What is clear, is that you continue to attempt to detract and distract by use of smoke and mirrors.

“Antisocialistic”

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#552 Nov 26, 2012
okb2 wrote:
<quoted text>Does regiatration and License Tags assist police in solving crimes or is it all just a waste of money?
And there it is! Solving crimes is not preventing crimes.
Everyone is outraged over the Co theater shooting. They want stiffer gun control laws. Yet the perp was apprehended. The crime was solved. And wow, registration wasn't required.

Let me ask you something. If you see a hit and run, can you write down or memorize the license plate number fast enough to convey it to police? What about make, model, year, and color? Can you get a visual confirmation on the driver so police can compare your description to the registered owner of the vehicle?

Now, answer the same questions for a firearm serial number, make, model, caliber, and user.
Austinite

Austin, TX

#553 Nov 26, 2012
okimar wrote:
<quoted text>Teddy Kennedy's car has killed more people than ALL my firearms combined......
I am not so sure it was his car that did the actual killing.

Since: Jul 12

Catonsville, MD

#554 Nov 26, 2012
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
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And there it is! Solving crimes is not preventing crimes.
Everyone is outraged over the Co theater shooting. They want stiffer gun control laws. Yet the perp was apprehended. The crime was solved. And wow, registration wasn't required.
Let me ask you something. If you see a hit and run, can you write down or memorize the license plate number fast enough to convey it to police? What about make, model, year, and color? Can you get a visual confirmation on the driver so police can compare your description to the registered owner of the vehicle?
Now, answer the same questions for a firearm serial number, make, model, caliber, and user.
Speaking of diversion and smoke. I said a long time ago on this thread that there is nothing you can do about that type of event. Even if guns were illegal, forbidden and did not exist, he could still make a bomb and crash into the theater or carry it in.

Registration is required in some cities and has been talked about since the 60's at least.

And you were accusing me of smoke?

Since: Jul 12

Catonsville, MD

#555 Nov 26, 2012
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
<quoted text>
And there it is! Solving crimes is not preventing crimes.
Everyone is outraged over the Co theater shooting. They want stiffer gun control laws. Yet the perp was apprehended. The crime was solved. And wow, registration wasn't required.
Let me ask you something. If you see a hit and run, can you write down or memorize the license plate number fast enough to convey it to police? What about make, model, year, and color? Can you get a visual confirmation on the driver so police can compare your description to the registered owner of the vehicle?
Now, answer the same questions for a firearm serial number, make, model, caliber, and user.
If I see an accident I can describe the car to the police, perhaps with a partial license plate and they can search their REGISTRATION files for people that own cars like that.

Since: Jul 12

Catonsville, MD

#556 Nov 26, 2012
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
<quoted text>
And there it is! Solving crimes is not preventing crimes.
Everyone is outraged over the Co theater shooting. They want stiffer gun control laws. Yet the perp was apprehended. The crime was solved. And wow, registration wasn't required.
Let me ask you something. If you see a hit and run, can you write down or memorize the license plate number fast enough to convey it to police? What about make, model, year, and color? Can you get a visual confirmation on the driver so police can compare your description to the registered owner of the vehicle?
Now, answer the same questions for a firearm serial number, make, model, caliber, and user.
It was a blued revolver with red on its front sight. Large caliber. If he fired a shot he left the caliber.

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