In shift from campaign pledge, Paul Ryan floats Medicare age tweak

There are 95 comments on the Reuters story from Mar 5, 2013, titled In shift from campaign pledge, Paul Ryan floats Medicare age tweak. In it, Reuters reports that:

House of Representatives Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan is floating a plan that would force Medicare cuts onto people aged 56 and younger, breaking a campaign promise not to touch benefits for those older than 55.

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radiofreeamerica

Tarpon Springs, FL

#41 Mar 6, 2013
His plan affects people 56 and younger.He said he would not affect people 55 and older.Its virtually the same.But Reuters thinks hes broken a promise because they cant figure this out.21st century media at work.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#42 Mar 6, 2013
radiofreeamerica wrote:
His plan affects people 56 and younger.He said he would not affect people 55 and older.Its virtually the same.But Reuters thinks hes broken a promise because they cant figure this out.21st century media at work.
Right, and the next version will affect people 57 and younger.
Then 58 and younger.
Then 59 and younger.
Then 60 and younger.
Then 61 and younger.

It's only a matter of time before he comes out with the REAL version which will affect EVERYONE.

“your life is great”

Since: Aug 09

you poop in clean water

#43 Mar 6, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
Right, and the next version will affect people 57 and younger.
Then 58 and younger.
Then 59 and younger.
Then 60 and younger.
Then 61 and younger.
It's only a matter of time before he comes out with the REAL version which will affect EVERYONE.
shhhhh
that's classified information.
Sheik Yerbouti

New Hope, PA

#44 Mar 6, 2013
The Eddie Munster lookalike and ayn rand minion strikes again with his insane social Darwinism! This is a guy that has never had a real job and has fed at the government trough for most of his sorry life!

Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#45 Mar 6, 2013
Pamela wrote:
<quoted text>the Tea Party is all old people on the government who were Dems. That's exactly what they are, Rove knows that, everyone knows that. Go talk to them, they will tell you - "well, I always voted Dem, but Obama is a commie, bla, bla, he took money out of Medicare." That's what they say.
If they had voted Republican all of their lives, when the country collapsed when Bush was in office, obviously they would have turned on the Republican party and gone Libertarian. I would know, I am a lifelong Republican and the Tea Party nuts are nothing like me, not one bit. They do not know one thing about politics, they don't know anything other than what comes from Fox TV. They were Dems who are old and retired who spent all their money and who are on several government pensions and on Medicare and they are just out to try and keep all of the government stuff the get. That's why their only issue is they want OTHER stuff cut but not SS and Medicare, and that is why they never admit the debt in SS and Medicare. They refuse to ever deal with it. They have been pretending for years that there is no debt in SS and Medicare and their position is they paid in, they want all that stuff and they want welfare and student loans and grants ended so that they can get ALL of the government money. It's not rocket science.
You are as thick headed as a frightwingnut teabagger. The conservatives hung that moniker on themselves. The Dems had nothing to do with it. The term originated in April 2009.

At the first anti-stimulus "New American Tea Party" rally in Washington D.C., a protestor carries a sign reading "Tea Bag the Liberal Dems before they Tea Bag You!!" The Washington Independent's David Weigel calls it "the best sign I saw."

Several Tea Party protest sites encourage readers to "Tea bag the fools in DC." Jay Nordlinger at National Review Online later admits: "Conservatives started [using the term]...

Try getting your head out of Ron Paul's ass.
Pamela

Citrus Heights, CA

#46 Mar 6, 2013
Mykro wrote:
<quoted text>You are as thick headed as a frightwingnut teabagger. The conservatives hung that moniker on themselves. The Dems had nothing to do with it. The term originated in April 2009.
At the first anti-stimulus "New American Tea Party" rally in Washington D.C., a protestor carries a sign reading "Tea Bag the Liberal Dems before they Tea Bag You!!" The Washington Independent's David Weigel calls it "the best sign I saw."
Several Tea Party protest sites encourage readers to "Tea bag the fools in DC." Jay Nordlinger at National Review Online later admits: "Conservatives started [using the term]...
Try getting your head out of Ron Paul's ass.
The Tea Party had no clue that the Repubs were for the rich and for the oil companies because they never voted Republican before. It was when Obama took $750 billion out of Medicare, all those poor old folks came out of the wood work and started marching for their socialism by saying they hate socialism and saying "no socialism." Those people are the old Know Nothing Party - poor Dems from the South, Dixicrats. If they were life long Repubs, how come the ONLY thing they knew about the Republican party was the crapola coming from Fox TV? They are so have a clue that they were going to lifelong Republicans and calling them evil liberals because unless you ONLY repeated exactly what was said on Fox, they would label you an evil liberal. All that crap comes from Sean Hannity, O'Reilly, etc. Fox is selling hate one party to get the other party elected and when the country collapsed when Bush was in office and then Obama took a lot of money out of Medicare, those old folks got super scared and they don't know anything, so they ran over to Fox TV and started repeating Glenn Beck, and Beck got them to start a big movement and that's how the fake Tea Party was created. Why do you think they had signs saying "keep the government's hands off of my Medicare, No government health care." One, cause they are way stupid, and two cause they were all Dems who were trying to keep their Medicare who flipped out over the cuts and over the country collapsing who were now repeating Glenn Beck's crazy talk. They are poor people who still have no clue the Repubs are for the rich and the oil companies.

Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#47 Mar 6, 2013
Pamela wrote:
<quoted text>The Tea Party had no clue that the Repubs were for the rich and for the oil companies because they never voted Republican before. It was when Obama took $750 billion out of Medicare, all those poor old folks came out of the wood work and started marching for their socialism by saying they hate socialism and saying "no socialism." Those people are the old Know Nothing Party - poor Dems from the South, Dixicrats. If they were life long Repubs, how come the ONLY thing they knew about the Republican party was the crapola coming from Fox TV? They are so have a clue that they were going to lifelong Republicans and calling them evil liberals because unless you ONLY repeated exactly what was said on Fox, they would label you an evil liberal. All that crap comes from Sean Hannity, O'Reilly, etc. Fox is selling hate one party to get the other party elected and when the country collapsed when Bush was in office and then Obama took a lot of money out of Medicare, those old folks got super scared and they don't know anything, so they ran over to Fox TV and started repeating Glenn Beck, and Beck got them to start a big movement and that's how the fake Tea Party was created. Why do you think they had signs saying "keep the government's hands off of my Medicare, No government health care." One, cause they are way stupid, and two cause they were all Dems who were trying to keep their Medicare who flipped out over the cuts and over the country collapsing who were now repeating Glenn Beck's crazy talk. They are poor people who still have no clue the Repubs are for the rich and the oil companies.
You are as nutty as Glenn Beck. The TeaBag Party has it's origins in the John Birch Society. I'll give you a hint. Fred Koch.

And there is no such thing as any Dem being a teabagger.

You still have your moronic head firmly impacted in Ron Paul's ass.
Pamela

Citrus Heights, CA

#48 Mar 6, 2013
Mykro wrote:
<quoted text>You are as nutty as Glenn Beck. The TeaBag Party has it's origins in the John Birch Society. I'll give you a hint. Fred Koch.
And there is no such thing as any Dem being a teabagger.
You still have your moronic head firmly impacted in Ron Paul's ass.
No. The Tea Party is almost all old people, former Dems who got mad when Obama took $750 billion out of Medicare. Don't worry, Obama and the Dems are going to have to cut a lot more than $750 billion from Medicare to balance the budget, more like $2 trillion per year in cuts to Medicare will have to be made, and Bill Maher has already well indicated the Dems are ready to cut Medicare and SS big time. The real Republicans were rich people who knew the Repubs were for the rich. Glenn Beck started that Tea Party and they were originally supposed to be against both parties and be Libertarian. Today, Beck wants to do an entire network on being Libertarian and he claims to be one. But, those old folks who were long time Dems got mad at Obama when he took all that money out of Medicare so they had no where else to turn to other than the Repubs. It was a sea change when Obama turned on the old folks and played to the Mexicans and blacks, so the old white folks changed parties. That's what happened.

Don't worry, the Democratic party is dead and after we default on the debt and go third world, after the dollar collapses, the bond market bubble bursts, this nation will end up being Libertarian, by default, from lack of money to hand out. That is how the nation began and that is how it is going to end, and you should read some of Chris Hedges books about the death of the Liberal Class. He is a REAL liberal and he documents how and when the liberal class died off. This MSNBC stuff is a sick dog and pony show. ALL they can even offer is hate on white people and their group is Mexicans and blacks on welfare (they supposedly suddely love one another so much now) and gays. They are all as one, and all they have to do is vote and vote whitey's money out of him. Yahoo, proves what Hedges said is true - the liberals died a long, long time ago. Fox and MSNBC are dying off, they are circus shows.
Pamela

Citrus Heights, CA

#49 Mar 6, 2013
The Dems now have a plan to turn Texas into a Dem state by playing up to all the Mexicans in Texas. Play to those on welfare, play loud and big and you can turn the state Dem. See, the new model is the Repubs are the old former Dems, the old folks and the new Dems are the Mexicans and blacks and dumb young people who don't know anything about politics. It's now broken up into vote for old folks to get SS and Medicare OR vote them down and vote for the young kids to get SSI and welfare and food stamps and Section 8. Since there are 100 million young people and 80 million baby boomers, the younger ones one the election. It's now divided by age, voting for getting money from the government, the older group trying to get their gov. stuff from the Repubs and the younger people trying to get their gov. stuff from the Dems.
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#51 Mar 6, 2013
au contraire wrote:
<quoted text>Obama was the one to take 787 billion out of medicare to pay for Obama care.......before exempting his union buds.
Yesterday the claim from the extreme right, which you represent was that the democrats never cut any spending.

Today you present allegations of Obama cutting $787 Billion.

What will the email dictate as the mantra tomorrow?
Eric Gustafson

Newport News, VA

#52 Mar 6, 2013
Texas doesn't operate in the manner you're suggesting. There aren't enough welfare recipients in Texas to sway an election. Texas denies welfare to their residents and forwards those seeking aid to low wage Employers in Texas.

Texas has a large population that serves as a breeding ground for low wage workers who can not qualify for aid. More than a quarter of the Texas work force earn minimum wage.
Pamela wrote:
The Dems now have a plan to turn Texas into a Dem state by playing up to all the Mexicans in Texas. Play to those on welfare, play loud and big and you can turn the state Dem. See, the new model is the Repubs are the old former Dems, the old folks and the new Dems are the Mexicans and blacks and dumb young people who don't know anything about politics. It's now broken up into vote for old folks to get SS and Medicare OR vote them down and vote for the young kids to get SSI and welfare and food stamps and Section 8. Since there are 100 million young people and 80 million baby boomers, the younger ones one the election. It's now divided by age, voting for getting money from the government, the older group trying to get their gov. stuff from the Repubs and the younger people trying to get their gov. stuff from the Dems.

Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#53 Mar 6, 2013
Pamela wrote:
<quoted text>No. The Tea Party is almost all old people, former Dems who got mad when Obama took $750 billion out of Medicare. Don't worry, Obama and the Dems are going to have to cut a lot more than $750 billion from Medicare to balance the budget, more like $2 trillion per year in cuts to Medicare will have to be made, and Bill Maher has already well indicated the Dems are ready to cut Medicare and SS big time. The real Republicans were rich people who knew the Repubs were for the rich. Glenn Beck started that Tea Party and they were originally supposed to be against both parties and be Libertarian. Today, Beck wants to do an entire network on being Libertarian and he claims to be one. But, those old folks who were long time Dems got mad at Obama when he took all that money out of Medicare so they had no where else to turn to other than the Repubs. It was a sea change when Obama turned on the old folks and played to the Mexicans and blacks, so the old white folks changed parties. That's what happened.
Don't worry, the Democratic party is dead and after we default on the debt and go third world, after the dollar collapses, the bond market bubble bursts, this nation will end up being Libertarian, by default, from lack of money to hand out. That is how the nation began and that is how it is going to end, and you should read some of Chris Hedges books about the death of the Liberal Class. He is a REAL liberal and he documents how and when the liberal class died off. This MSNBC stuff is a sick dog and pony show. ALL they can even offer is hate on white people and their group is Mexicans and blacks on welfare (they supposedly suddely love one another so much now) and gays. They are all as one, and all they have to do is vote and vote whitey's money out of him. Yahoo, proves what Hedges said is true - the liberals died a long, long time ago. Fox and MSNBC are dying off, they are circus shows.
You're thick as a brick and dumber than the teabag birther nut DUMBOSPAMBOT.

“Forever Is Promised To No One”

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#54 Mar 7, 2013
Mykro wrote:
<quoted text>You're as misinformed as that moron Le Dumbo au contraire Le Dumbospambot. Now I've heard everything. The Teabaggers were Dems that became Republicans. Try taking off your duncecap once in a while. And forget about Ron and Rand Paul nutjobs.
Everyone is wrong in the world, only you are right......You spout the same five lines moron but never really engage, as soon as you are challenged, your off on your bicycle to hide again.

“Forever Is Promised To No One”

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#55 Mar 7, 2013
Mykro wrote:
<quoted text>You're thick as a brick and dumber than the teabag birther nut DUMBOSPAMBOT.
You prove my point. Children should be seen and not heard.

“Forever Is Promised To No One”

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#56 Mar 7, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
<quoted text>
Yesterday the claim from the extreme right, which you represent was that the democrats never cut any spending.
Today you present allegations of Obama cutting $787 Billion.
What will the email dictate as the mantra tomorrow?
Yes, but he didn't cut 787 billion, he took it moron, stold it from the old and sick. You and your death panels will enact the killing by care refusal soon, but your turnes will come.

“Forever Is Promised To No One”

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#57 Mar 7, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
Texas doesn't operate in the manner you're suggesting. There aren't enough welfare recipients in Texas to sway an election. Texas denies welfare to their residents and forwards those seeking aid to low wage Employers in Texas.
Texas has a large population that serves as a breeding ground for low wage workers who can not qualify for aid. More than a quarter of the Texas work force earn minimum wage.
<quoted text>
Great, maybe I'll move to Texas.

Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#58 Mar 7, 2013
au contraire wrote:
<quoted text>You prove my point. Children should be seen and not heard.
You prove your own point. Your point is 90,000 DUMBOSPAMS and counting.

Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#59 Mar 7, 2013
au contraire wrote:
<quoted text>Great, maybe I'll move to Texas.
TexASS is even too good for you. Somalia fits you and your birther nut teabag butt buddies much better.
serfs up

Daytona Beach, FL

#60 Mar 7, 2013
Pamela wrote:
The Dems now have a plan to turn Texas into a Dem state by playing up to all the Mexicans in Texas. Play to those on welfare, play loud and big and you can turn the state Dem. See, the new model is the Repubs are the old former Dems, the old folks and the new Dems are the Mexicans and blacks and dumb young people who don't know anything about politics. It's now broken up into vote for old folks to get SS and Medicare OR vote them down and vote for the young kids to get SSI and welfare and food stamps and Section 8. Since there are 100 million young people and 80 million baby boomers, the younger ones one the election. It's now divided by age, voting for getting money from the government, the older group trying to get their gov. stuff from the Repubs and the younger people trying to get their gov. stuff from the Dems.
The real issues you are in the direction. Your answers are cold. A healthy percentage of men and women made their oints known decades ago when reforms were made. I and them will have no guilt collecting. Even if we are of religion. And we have had guilt shoved down our throats. these people will cross the line from innocent victims owed to evil when they change the elders collection and medical. They had no problem collecting for their own benefit up to now. And they are the real ones crying and whining. They go back to the bad old days and forget how they made it themselves into the mainstream. Hell, the social security checks should be twice the amount now but the real inflation is massively unreported by the snakes laws. i don't disagre with you. But am i supposed to be the sucker while everyone else is having a good time even if they are impoverished.
Pamela

Citrus Heights, CA

#61 Mar 7, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
Texas doesn't operate in the manner you're suggesting. There aren't enough welfare recipients in Texas to sway an election. Texas denies welfare to their residents and forwards those seeking aid to low wage Employers in Texas.
Texas has a large population that serves as a breeding ground for low wage workers who can not qualify for aid. More than a quarter of the Texas work force earn minimum wage.
<quoted text>
Oh that's good. The Dems won't be able to buy Texas by handing out welfare. They did that long ago in CA and everything is debt and spend and welfare and crime no one ever has to work and it's high taxes everywhere you turn. That is how LBJ got the black vote for the Dems. His big welfare programs sealed the deal for the blacks to vote Dem forever.

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