Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

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Care Enough To Google It

Yuba City, CA

#20337 Feb 17, 2013
Copy-pasting at large, isn't content, hick.

It's desperation from one of Satan's uncertain sons.
Care Enough To Google It

Yuba City, CA

#20338 Feb 17, 2013
concerned in Eygpt wrote:
<quoted text>

So again I do not dispute Jews practiced Polygamy and that is why so many times in the OT God brings his Judgement Upon the Jews allows them to be taken into slavery for being disobedient.
BUT NO WHERE DOES GOD COMMAND IT OR ENDORSE IT IN THE BIBLE.
NO THE BIBLE SPEAKS AGAINST IT AND SAYS IT ONLY LEADS TO FOLLY.
SO DUMB DUMB go have all the wives you like and receive your just dessert but it will not go well for you or the LDS on judgement day.
God Bless
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2nd Chronicles 24:1 Joash, king:

Joash was seven years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem forty years. His mother was Zibiah from Beersheba.

2:***Joash did what was pleasing in the LORD's sight throughout the lifetime of Jehoiada the priest.***

3:***Jehoiada chose two wives for Joash, and he had sons and daughters.***

=====

Adult men in Israel under the law of Moses, were commanded to marry, with some exceptions: religious service, military duty, etc.

Therefore the law commanding marriage to wife of a dead brother, meant polygamy MUST occur: as it did on a REGULAR basis, being a COMMANDMENT.

Elders also commanded, to try to talk men into it: and punish a man who won't.

Deuteronomy 25:
"25:5 If brethren dwell together, and one of them die, and have no child, the wife of the dead shall not marry without unto a stranger:

her husband's brother shall go in unto her, and take her to him to wife, and perform the duty of an husband's brother unto her.

25:6 And it shall be, that the firstborn which she beareth shall succeed in the name of his brother which is dead, that his name be not put out of Israel.

25:7 And if the man like not to take his brother's wife,
then let his brother's wife go up to the gate unto the elders, and say,

"My husband's brother refuseth to raise up unto his brother a name in Israel, he will not perform the duty of my husband's brother."

25:8 Then the elders of his city shall call him, and speak unto him: and if he stand to it, and say, I like not to take her;

25:9 Then shall his brother's wife come unto him in the presence of the elders, and loose his shoe from off his foot,

***and spit in his face***,

and shall answer and say,

"So shall it be done unto that man that will not build up his brother's house."

25:10 And his name shall be called in Israel, The house of him that hath his shoe loosed.
==========

The LAW COMMANDS.

The law commands the Elders to TALK to MEN about why they won't obey

The law commands the punishment be ***THE WOMAN SPIT in HIS FACE***

The law commands from THEN ON he be known as one who WOULDN'T OBEY the COMMANDMENT.

Satan possessed, family hating, heterosexuality hating, pathological liars addicted to Satanic assault of God's methods

will of course try yet to claim
it isn't in their Bible.

As we see of course it is.

Satan has his pathological lying zombies so possessed they come to assault the judgement of God in commanding LEVIRATE MARRIAGE

to the nation of Israel.
Care Enough To Google It

Yuba City, CA

#20339 Feb 17, 2013
If you suspect the power to make men come to accuse, insult and LIE, LIE, LIE, is the power of Satan over a man you're right.
If you've seen people practicing the identical evil and realized it's the power of Satan working through a living person, you're right again.
If you wonder what Satan hates about us,
The Church of Jesus Christ (Saints)
visit Mormon.org
Ask yourself which methods God uses
when he has something important to say to a man,
and to mankind
about important things.
concerned in Eygpt

Aberdeen, UK

#20340 Feb 17, 2013
Care Enough To Google It wrote:
<quoted text>
You claimed GOD didn't give the LEVIRATE marriage law you ignorant **ng hick.
NO I did not you are a dumb dumb
concerned in Eygpt

Aberdeen, UK

#20341 Feb 17, 2013
Mormonism Is Not True…
http://mit.irr.org/if-mormonism-not-true

You have come to the conclusion—perhaps tentatively, perhaps rather definitely—that the LDS faith is not true. Whether you were raised LDS or converted to the Mormon religion, you realize that you no longer believe in it. Where do you go from here?

If you’re like a majority of LDS and former LDS in this situation, you are now unsure what to believe. You have questions not just about Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon but also about Jesus Christ and the Bible. You might even be unsure about the existence of God. And more than likely you are in no hurry to get involved in another church, especially if you have family members who are still part of the LDS Church.

There are two things you need to know. First, this is all perfectly normal. It’s quite understandable to have doubts and questions about the big questions of life after realizing that the system of answers you had accepted for years no longer works for you. Second, please know that you are not alone. Other Mormons have gone through the same crisis of faith as you have. Others are going through it right now. You may prefer to wrestle with matters of faith and doubt on your own, or you may want to share your struggles with others who can relate to your experience. It’s totally up to you. Either way, we are here to help. We can connect you to other former and transitioning Mormons for support, and we can also provide you with resources that may assist you in working through your questions.

From this page, you can find a variety of articles and other informative resources of relevance to you in this time of rethinking what you believe and moving forward with your life.

cont... at link above the TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE

concerned in Eygpt

Aberdeen, UK

#20342 Feb 17, 2013
Failed Prophecies of Joseph Smith

Prophecy # 1 - The Coming of the Lord
President Smith then stated that the meeting had been called, because God had commanded it; and it was made known to him by vision and by the Holy Spirit.... it was the will of God that they should be ordained to the ministry and go forth to prune the vineyard for the last time, for the coming of the Lord, which was nigh - even fifty six years should wind up the scene.(History of the Church, Vol. 2, page 182).
This prophecy was spoken by Joseph Smith in 1835, and recorded by Oliver Cowdery. The fifty-six years were passed by 1891.
concerned in Eygpt

Aberdeen, UK

#20343 Feb 17, 2013
Prophecy # 2 - David W. Patten to go on a mission
Verily, thus saith the Lord: It is wisdom in my servant David W. Patten, that he settle up all his business as soon as he possibly can, and make a disposition of his merchandise, that he may perform a mission unto me next spring, in company with others, even twelve including himself, to testify of my name and bear glad tidings unto the world.(Doctrine & Covenants 114:1)
This prophecy was made on April 17, 1838. David W. Patten died in October of 1838 and thus never went on a mission the following spring.
concerned in Eygpt

Aberdeen, UK

#20344 Feb 17, 2013
Prophecy # 3 - The United States Government to be overthrown in a few years
I prophecy in the name of the Lord God of Israel, unless the United States redress the wrongs committed upon the Saints in the state of Missouri and punish the crimes committed by her officers that in a few years the government will be utterly overthrown and wasted, and there will not be so much as a potsherd left for their wickedness in permitting the murder of men, women and children, and the wholesale plunder and extermination of thousands of her citizens to go unpunished (History of the Church, Vol. 5, page 394).
Joseph Smith made this prophecy in May 6, 1843. However, the United States Government did not redress any of the wrongs committed against the Mormons in Missouri, and now over 150 years later, the U.S. Government still stands.
concerned in Eygpt

Aberdeen, UK

#20345 Feb 17, 2013
Prophecy # 4 - Congress to be broken up as a government
While discussing the petition to Congress, I prophesied, by virtue of the holy Priesthood vested in me, and in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, that, if Congress will not hear our petition and grant us protection, they shall be broken up as a government, and God shall damn them, and there shall be nothing left of them - not even a grease spot.(Millennial Star, Vol. 22, p. 455. See also History of the Church (HC), vol. 6, p. 116, though when this prediction was incorporated into the official history, Mormon Church leaders decided to leave out the "grease spot" part.)
The petition was not heard nor was protection granted (Deseret News, Vol. 1, p. 59). Yet, Congress was never broken up and continues to function to this day. It is interesting that the compilers of History of the Church, added an editorial note in an attempt to soften or explain this prophecy. They state that: "This prediction doubtless has reference to the party in power; to the ‘government’ considered as the administration;" (note, p. 116). According to the note in HC, this means the Democratic Party, which was in control at the time. However, the prediction is that "Congress shall be broken up as a government" and Congress is made up of representatives from both parties. The Saints were making an appeal to the General Government, not to the Democratic Party, a point made by a summary statement in the left margin beside this prophecy as it is recorded in HC.

CONT... AT http://mit.irr.org/failed-prophecies-of-josep...

FOR THOSE WHO SEEK TRUTH.
Care Enough To Google It

Yuba City, CA

#20346 Feb 17, 2013
Mainly the ones you need to worry about not coming true are the ones where He says the wicked are going to be caught in the snares of their own words.

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concerned in Eygpt wrote:
<quoted text>

So again I do not dispute Jews practiced Polygamy and that is why so many times in the OT God brings his Judgement Upon the Jews allows them to be taken into slavery for being disobedient.
BUT NO WHERE DOES GOD COMMAND IT OR ENDORSE IT IN THE BIBLE.
NO THE BIBLE SPEAKS AGAINST IT AND SAYS IT ONLY LEADS TO FOLLY.
SO DUMB DUMB go have all the wives you like and receive your just dessert but it will not go well for you or the LDS on judgement day.
God Bless

------
2nd Chronicles 24:1 Joash, king:

Joash was seven years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem forty years. His mother was Zibiah from Beersheba.

2:***Joash did what was pleasing in the LORD's sight throughout the lifetime of Jehoiada the priest.***

3:***Jehoiada chose two wives for Joash, and he had sons and daughters.***

=====

Adult men in Israel under the law of Moses, were commanded to marry, with some exceptions: religious service, military duty, etc.

Therefore the law commanding marriage to wife of a dead brother, meant polygamy MUST occur: as it did on a REGULAR basis, being a COMMANDMENT.

Elders also commanded, to try to talk men into it: and punish a man who won't.

Deuteronomy 25:
"25:5 If brethren dwell together, and one of them die, and have no child, the wife of the dead shall not marry without unto a stranger:

her husband's brother shall go in unto her, and take her to him to wife, and perform the duty of an husband's brother unto her.

25:6 And it shall be, that the firstborn which she beareth shall succeed in the name of his brother which is dead, that his name be not put out of Israel.

25:7 And if the man like not to take his brother's wife,
then let his brother's wife go up to the gate unto the elders, and say,

"My husband's brother refuseth to raise up unto his brother a name in Israel, he will not perform the duty of my husband's brother."

25:8 Then the elders of his city shall call him, and speak unto him: and if he stand to it, and say, I like not to take her;

25:9 Then shall his brother's wife come unto him in the presence of the elders, and loose his shoe from off his foot,

***and spit in his face***,

and shall answer and say,

"So shall it be done unto that man that will not build up his brother's house."

25:10 And his name shall be called in Israel, The house of him that hath his shoe loosed.
==========

The LAW COMMANDS.

The law commands the Elders to TALK to MEN about why they won't obey

The law commands the punishment be ***THE WOMAN SPIT in HIS FACE***

The law commands from THEN ON he be known as one who WOULDN'T OBEY the COMMANDMENT.

Satan possessed, family hating, heterosexuality hating, pathological liars addicted to Satanic assault of God's methods

will of course try yet to claim
it isn't in their Bible.

As we see of course it is.

Satan has his pathological lying zombies so possessed they come to assault the judgement of God in commanding LEVIRATE MARRIAGE

to the nation of Israel.
Care Enough To Google It

Yuba City, CA

#20347 Feb 17, 2013
concerned in Eygpt wrote:
Why again Mormons are not Christians.
Garments of the Holy Priesthood
Garments of the Holy Priesthood. Sacred underwear worn by faithful temple Mormons which, they are told in the temple, "will be a shield and protection to you against the power of the destroyer until you have finished your work here on earth." Sewn into the garments are markings that resemble the compass, square, and level of Freemasonry. Mormons are told these garments are symbolic of the covering God gave Adam and Eve after their fall. According to twelfth President Spencer Kimball,“Temple garments afford protection. I am sure one could go to extreme in worshiping the cloth of which the garment is made, but one could also go to the other extreme. Though generally I think our protection is a mental, spiritual, moral one, yet I am convinced that there could be and undoubtedly have been many cases where there has been, through faith, an actual physical protection, so we must not minimize that possibility”(The Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball, p. 539). According to a church manual,“The garment provides a constant reminder of the covenants you have made in the temple. You should treat it with respect at all times. You should not expose it to the view of those who do not understand its significance, and you should not adjust it to accommodate different styles of clothing. When you wear it properly, it provides protection against temptation and evil. Wearing the garment is an outward expression of an inward commitment to follow the Savior”(Truth to the Faith, p. 173).
Again this was never Practiced by Jesus or his Disciples and is Ocultic at the very least.
For more info on the NON Christian practice of LDS holy underwear goto.
http://www.mrm.org/underwear
Truth matters only someone in a non Christian Cult would think HOLY underwear with not Christian symbols on it would afford them protection.
You ignorant hick, the Jews were given garment commandments about what garment went OVER what other garment, and what garment went UNDER the other.

The Lord gave them commandments about how many TASSLES they could put on an item of wear.

You're just an ignorant nobody whose grasp of the FUNDAMENTALS of the Lord's dealings with a nation of people are so bad you can't even remember the ancient Israelites had a dress code.

You are one zombied up Satan-possessed sociopath.
Care Enough To Google It

Yuba City, CA

#20348 Feb 17, 2013
You lost all respect from me when you didn't even know about the Lord commanding Levirate marriage to the entire nation of Israel.

Your zombie quotient's hanging in there with issues you found in a book: printed for money. And popularity. By someone NOT in a church called "The Church of Jesus Christ". By someone who does NOT have 12 Apostles.

Or have ministration of Angels. When John the Revelator saw the angel flying in the midst of Heaven, having the everlasting Gospel to preach, here in the last days, what do you think that means to mankind vis-a-vis God?

It means that in the last days an angel would come flying in heaven having the everlasting Gospel to preach.

Is there now going to BE NO ANGEL FLYING AMID HEAVEN having the everlasting Gospel to preach?

You're just one stupid Satan's tramp, and a misled hillbilly who doesn't even realize the non-belief in modern Angels being seen flying through heaven having the everlasting Gospel to preach,

means you're not allowed to believe an Angel came down flying through heaven having the everlasting gospel to preach,
when an angel CAME down from heaven, telling Joseph Smith, he had the everlasting Gospel to preach.

Pfft.

Mormon.org
concerned in Eygpt

Aberdeen, UK

#20349 Feb 17, 2013
Care Enough To Google It wrote:
Mainly the ones you need to worry about not coming true are the ones where He says the wicked are going to be caught in the snares of their own words.
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concerned in Eygpt wrote:
<quoted text>
So again I do not dispute Jews practiced Polygamy and that is why ND SAYS IT ONLY LEADS TO FOLLY.
SO DUMB DUMB go have all the wives you like and receive your just dessert but it will not go well for you or the LDS on judgement day.
God Bless
------
2nd Chronicles 24:1 Joash, king:
Joash was seven years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem forty years. His mother was Zibiah from Beersheba.
2:***Joash did what was pleasing in the LORD's sight throughout the lifetime of Jehoiada the priest.***
3:***Jehoiada chose two wives for Joash, and he had sons and daughters.***
=====
cut for space
Ef Israel.
25:7 And if the man like not to take his brother's wife,
then let his brother's wife go up to the gate unto the elders, and say,
"My husband's brother refuseth to raise up unto his brother a name in Israel, he will not perform the duty of my husband's brother."
25:8 Then the elders of his city shall call him, and speak unto him: and if he stand to it, and say, I like not to take her;
25:9 Then shall his brother's wife come unto him in the presence of the elders, and loose his shoe from off his foot,
***and spit in his face***,
and shall answer and say,
"So shall it be done unto that man that will not build up his brother's house."
25:10 And his name shall be called in Israel, The house of him that hath his shoe loosed.
==========
The LAW COMMANDS.
The law commands the Elders to TALK to MEN about why they won't obey
The law commands the punishment be ***THE WOMAN SPIT in HIS FACE***
The law commands from THEN ON he be known as one who WOULDN'T OBEY the COMMANDMENT.
Satan possessed, family hating, heterosexuality hating, pathological liars addicted to Satanic assault of God's methods
will of course try yet to claim
it isn't in their Bible.
As we see of course it is.
Satan has his pathological lying zombies so possessed they come to assault the judgement of God in commanding LEVIRATE MARRIAGE
to the nation of Israel.
Again dumb dumb there is no command from God in any of the above to take more than one wife.

Yes he was pleasing to God he had a good heart, yet he made mistakes.

The NT sums it up this way LOVE COVERS A MULTITUDE OF SINS.

You with your false LDS beliefs think what you do makes you righteous or pleasing to God.

God does not look at the things outside a man does he looks for a man with a good heart and what his heart chooses the rest takes care of itself.

So again your above story records a priest who picks out two wives but again no Prophet speaking for the Lord commands this nor does God.

Again if you wish to know why he was pleasing to God it was because of his heart.

Again King David was found righteous in God's eyes yet he murdered committed adultery and had more than one wife.

Clearly his actions did not make him righteous as it does not for you or I.

Adult men in Israel under the law of Moses, were commanded to marry, you posted. LOL

But it does not say plural wives.

Again if you choose which don't because you are closed minded, to take all scripture in the OT and NT concerning marriage in context it is clear God's plan is one woman one man to make one flesh.

YOU choose to take a few lines from here and there out of context to justify what you want because you like the LDS idea that you can become a God with many wives and populate your own planet some day.
YOU are on the biggest ego trip a man can take, YOU think your God.

but you are a fool
concerned in Eygpt

Aberdeen, UK

#20350 Feb 17, 2013
Care Enough To Google It wrote:
<quoted text>

You ignorant hick, the Jews were given garment commandments about what garment went OVER what other garment, and what garment went UNDER the other.

The Lord gave them commandments about how many TASSLES they could put on an item of wear.
You're just an ignorant nobody whose grasp of the FUNDAMENTALS of the Lord's dealings with a nation of people are so bad you can't even remember the ancient Israelites had a dress code.
You are one zombied up Satan-possessed sociopath.
Another attack of words with not one rebuttal to the evidence from LDS sources that shows LDS wear holy underwear like pagans or witches.

YOU compare OT garments to LDS garments that have pagan ungodly symbols on them and not even for a nano second consider the purpose of the garments used in the OT.

YOUR mind is of limited ability.

Apparently context is of no value to you.

Pastors in the Lutheran church I grew up in wear garments but again for completely different reasons.

YOU are the Hick and dumb one to boot.
YEA HaH
Care Enough To Google It

Yuba City, CA

#20351 Feb 17, 2013
concerned in Eygpt wrote:
<quoted text>

So again I do not dispute Jews practiced Polygamy and that is why so many times in the OT God brings his Judgement Upon the Jews allows them to be taken into slavery for being disobedient.
BUT NO WHERE DOES GOD COMMAND IT OR ENDORSE IT IN THE BIBLE.
NO THE BIBLE SPEAKS AGAINST IT AND SAYS IT ONLY LEADS TO FOLLY.
SO DUMB DUMB go have all the wives you like and receive your just dessert but it will not go well for you or the LDS on judgement day.
God Bless

------
2nd Chronicles 24:1 Joash, king:

Joash was seven years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem forty years. His mother was Zibiah from Beersheba.

2:***Joash did what was pleasing in the LORD's sight throughout the lifetime of Jehoiada the priest.***

3:***Jehoiada chose two wives for Joash, and he had sons and daughters.***

=====

Adult men in Israel under the law of Moses, were commanded to marry, with some exceptions: religious service, military duty, etc.

Therefore the law commanding marriage to wife of a dead brother, meant polygamy MUST occur: as it did on a REGULAR basis, being a COMMANDMENT.

Elders also commanded, to try to talk men into it: and punish a man who won't.

Deuteronomy 25:
"25:5 If brethren dwell together, and one of them die, and have no child, the wife of the dead shall not marry without unto a stranger:

her husband's brother shall go in unto her, and take her to him to wife, and perform the duty of an husband's brother unto her.

25:6 And it shall be, that the firstborn which she beareth shall succeed in the name of his brother which is dead, that his name be not put out of Israel.

25:7 And if the man like not to take his brother's wife,
then let his brother's wife go up to the gate unto the elders, and say,

"My husband's brother refuseth to raise up unto his brother a name in Israel, he will not perform the duty of my husband's brother."

25:8 Then the elders of his city shall call him, and speak unto him: and if he stand to it, and say, I like not to take her;

25:9 Then shall his brother's wife come unto him in the presence of the elders, and loose his shoe from off his foot,

***and spit in his face***,

and shall answer and say,

"So shall it be done unto that man that will not build up his brother's house."

25:10 And his name shall be called in Israel, The house of him that hath his shoe loosed.
==========

The LAW COMMANDS.

The law commands the Elders to TALK to MEN about why they won't obey

The law commands the punishment be ***THE WOMAN SPIT in HIS FACE***

The law commands from THEN ON he be known as one who WOULDN'T OBEY the COMMANDMENT.

Satan possessed, family hating, heterosexuality hating, pathological liars addicted to Satanic assault of God's methods

will of course try yet to claim
it isn't in their Bible.

As we see of course it is.

Satan has his pathological lying zombies so possessed they come to assault the judgement of God in commanding LEVIRATE MARRIAGE

to the nation of Israel.
concerned in Eygpt

Aberdeen, UK

#20352 Feb 17, 2013
Are Mormon Temples Christian?
http://mit.irr.org/are-mormon-temples-christi...

A comparison of the activities of the Biblical temple and Mormon temples shows clearly that the two have nothing in common. Consider first the purpose of the biblical temple. Its sole function was to teach the need for atonement of sins as a precondition for authentic worship of the true and living God. The location of the altar of burnt offering immediately in front of the only entrance to the Jerusalem temple (see illustration below) illustrates this. It emphasized that God’s love and acceptance can only be extended to the sinner whose transgressions have been borne by His lamb of sacrifice. Solomon expressed this singular purpose of the temple in 2 Chronicles 2:6, "who am I then, that I should build him an house, save only to burn sacrifice before him?"2

By contrast, Mormon temples exist as places to perform unusual rituals, such as baptism for the dead and eternal marriage. Mormon are also taught secret handshakes there and are given secret names that are said to be necessary to enter heaven. Through these temple rituals men and women can become gods and goddesses, according to the Mormon Church.3 It claims that these rites were a part of early Christianity but were sabotaged by false teachers. It claims that all other churches are false and apostate;4 that Mormonism is the only true form of Christianity in the world. However, these Mormon temple rituals are not supported by the Bible, ancient Jewish literature, or early Christian history.

Biblical Rules Violated

A second point to consider is that many of the rules God revealed for the biblical temple are violated in Mormon temples. Here are four examples:

God appointed only one temple to reflect the fact that there is only one true God (Deuteronomy 12:5,13-14; 16:5,6). By contrast, the Mormon Church operates scores of temples, in violation of this divine mandate.

Only priests were allowed to enter the biblical temple. Worshippers – even the king of Israel5 – came no further than the altar of burnt offering in the courtyard. Since non-priests are allowed to enter and participate in Mormon temple activities, this is another point at which Mormon temple practice violates biblical revelation.

All activities in the biblical temple were public knowledge. They are spelled out in detail in Scripture (for example, Exodus 30:7-10; Leviticus 4:5-7; 16:1-34; 24:1-9).6 The Bible warns the Christian against participation in secret activities (Matthew 10:26-27; Ephesians 5:11-12). And Jesus affirmed that He had no secret teachings,“I spake openly to the world … in secret have I said nothing”(John 18:20). In sharp contrast, the Mormon Church’s insists on keeping its temple rituals secret.7

The Bible sets forth strict lineage requirements for the Aaronic priesthood. It teaches very explicitly that only men from the tribe of Levi and the family line of Aaron were qualified to serve as priests in the temple sanctuary (Numbers 3:10; Exodus 29:9; Numbers 18:1-7).8 The Mormon Church claims to have a restored Aaronic priesthood, but completely ignores this plain lineage requirement of Scripture.9

cont....
concerned in Eygpt

Aberdeen, UK

#20353 Feb 17, 2013
The Temple Made Obsolete

At the end of His earthly ministry, Jesus Christ predicted that the Jerusalem temple was about to be destroyed (Matthew 24:2). He told his disciples:“… verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another …”

This prophecy was fulfilled in A.D. 70, when the Roman general Titus demolished the temple; it has never since been rebuilt. Elsewhere, Jesus said that temple worship was about to be replaced by a new form of worship without a temple building:“the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father … But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him”(John 4:21,23).

A dramatic event at the time of Christ’s death on the cross signaled the end of temple worship. The Gospels record that at the very moment Jesus expired,“the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom”(Matthew 27:51; also Mark 15:38; Luke 23:45). Before it’s rending at the time of Jesus death, the thick temple veil (see Figure 1) had served as a barrier to prevent the priests from seeing into the temple’s inner room, the Holy of Holies. This inner sanctum represented the place of God’s holy and glorious presence. Only the high priest was allowed to enter the Holy of Holies, once a year on the Day of Atonement (Yom Kippur). This restriction signified that access into God’s presence was not truly provided by the Old Covenant. In the words of the New Testament book of Hebrews 9:8,“The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing.” According to ancient Jewish accounts, the thick temple veil was so strong that two teams of oxen pulling in opposite directions could not have torn it.10 Surely, this top-to-bottom tearing of the veil at the moment of Christ’s death was a supernatural act of God, heaven’s response to the completion of Jesus once-for-all atoning sacrifice on the cross.(Notably, no cross is displayed on Mormon temples, unlike Christian churches.) Through faith in Christ, believers are now granted free access into the very presence of God. In the words of the New Testament book of Hebrews,“Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God ... Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need”(Hebrews 4:14-16; see also 6:19;10:19-22).

The rending of the veil signified the end of the temple worship system. That system is now obsolete, and we no longer need a human priest or temple. Under the New Covenant established by Jesus Christ, He is the believer’s High Priest in the very sanctuary of Heaven itself. Thus, a “Christian temple” such as the Mormon Church proposes, is a contradiction in terms.

again from http://mit.irr.org/are-mormon-temples-christi...

all footnoted so you can verify the facts yourself.

CLEARLY MORMONS ARE NOT CHRISTIANS THEY THINK THEY NEED TEMPLES TO PRACTICE PAGAN RITUALS.

TRUTH MATTTERS
Care Enough To Google It

Yuba City, CA

#20354 Feb 17, 2013
Care Enough To Google It wrote:
<quoted text>
You claimed GOD didn't give the LEVIRATE marriage law you ignorant **ng hick.

concerned in Eygpt wrote:
<quoted text>
NO I did not you are a dumb dumb
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concerned in Eygpt wrote:
<quoted text> So again I do not dispute Jews practiced Polygamy and that is why so many times in the OT God brings his Judgement Upon the Jews allows them to be taken into slavery for being disobedient.
BUT NO WHERE DOES GOD COMMAND IT OR ENDORSE IT IN THE BIBLE.
NO THE BIBLE SPEAKS AGAINST IT AND SAYS IT ONLY LEADS TO FOLLY.
SO DUMB DUMB go have all the wives you like and receive your just dessert but it will not go well for you or the LDS on judgement day.
God Bless

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Adult men in Israel under the law of Moses, were commanded to marry, with some exceptions: religious service, military duty, etc.

Therefore the law commanding marriage to wife of a dead brother, meant polygamy MUST occur: as it did on a REGULAR basis, being a COMMANDMENT.

This is called LEVARITE MARRIAGE, & LAW

Elders in COURT, were also commanded, to try to talk men into explaining why they won't do it: explain there is a punishment,

and punish a man who won't.
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Deuteronomy 25:
"25:5 If brethren dwell together, and one of them die, and have no child, the wife of the dead shall not marry without unto a stranger:

her husband's brother shall go in unto her, and take her to him to wife, and perform the duty of an husband's brother unto her.

25:6 And it shall be, that the firstborn which she beareth shall succeed in the name of his brother which is dead, that his name be not put out of Israel.

25:7 And if the man like not to take his brother's wife,
then let his brother's wife go up to the gate unto the elders, and say,

"My husband's brother refuseth to raise up unto his brother a name in Israel, he will not perform the duty of my husband's brother."

25:8 Then the elders of his city shall call him, and speak unto him: and if he stand to it, and say, I like not to take her;

25:9 Then shall his brother's wife come unto him in the presence of the elders, and loose his shoe from off his foot,

***and spit in his face***,

and shall answer and say,

"So shall it be done unto that man that will not build up his brother's house."

25:10 And his name shall be called in Israel, The house of him that hath his shoe loosed.
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The LAW COMMANDS.

The law commands the Elders to TALK to MEN about why they won't obey

The law commands the punishment be ***THE WOMAN SPIT in HIS FACE***

The law commands from THEN ON he be known as one who WOULDN'T OBEY the COMMANDMENT.

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This is what it feels like to Egypt to be a Satanically mind-darkened deceiver of mankind: Lie, be caught lying, lie more: there's nobody watching him do it.
Care Enough To Google It

Yuba City, CA

#20355 Feb 17, 2013
concerned in Eygpt wrote:
TRUTH MATTTERS
Yeah. As you are finding out the hard way.
concerned in Eygpt

Aberdeen, UK

#20356 Feb 17, 2013
Care Enough To Google It wrote:
Care Enough To Google It wrote:
<quoted text>
You claimed GOD didn't give the LEVIRATE marriage law you ignorant **ng hick.
concerned in Eygpt wrote:
<quoted text>
NO I did not you are a dumb dumb
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concerned in Eygpt wrote:
<quoted text> So again I do not dispute Jews practiced Polygamy and that is why so many times in the OT God brings his Judgement Upon the Jews allows them to be taken into slavery for being disobedient.
BUT NO WHERE DOES GOD COMMAND IT OR ENDORSE IT IN THE BIBLE.
NO THE BIBLE SPEAKS AGAINST IT AND SAYS IT ONLY LEADS TO FOLLY.
SO DUMB DUMB go have all the wives you like and receive your just dessert but it will not go well for you or the LDS on judgement day.
God Bless
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Adult men in Israel under the law of Moses, were commanded to marry, with some exceptions: religious service, military duty, etc.
Therefore the law commanding marriage to wife of a dead brother, meant polygamy MUST occur: as it did on a REGULAR basis, being a COMMANDMENT.
This is called LEVARITE MARRIAGE, & LAW
Elders in COURT, were also commanded, to try to talk men into explaining why they won't do it: explain there is a punishment,
and punish a man who won't.
==========
Deuteronomy 25:
"25:5 If brethren dwell together, and one of them die, and have no child, the wife of the dead shall not marry without unto a stranger:
her husband's brother shall go in unto her, and take her to him to wife, and perform the duty of an husband's brother unto her.
25:6 And it shall be, that the firstborn which she beareth shall succeed in the name of his brother which is dead, that his name be not put out of Israel.
25:7 And if the man like not to take his brother's wife,
then let his brother's wife go up to the gate unto the elders, and say,
"My husband's brother refuseth to raise up unto his brother a name in Israel, he will not perform the duty of my husband's brother."
25:8 Then the elders of his city shall call him, and speak unto him: and if he stand to it, and say, I like not to take her;
25:9 Then shall his brother's wife come unto him in the presence of the elders, and loose his shoe from off his foot,
***and spit in his face***,
and shall answer and say,
"So shall it be done unto that man that will not build up his brother's house."
25:10 And his name shall be called in Israel, The house of him that hath his shoe loosed.
==========
The LAW COMMANDS.
The law commands the Elders to TALK to MEN about why they won't obey
The law commands the punishment be ***THE WOMAN SPIT in HIS FACE***
The law commands from THEN ON he be known as one who WOULDN'T OBEY the COMMANDMENT.
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This is what it feels like to Egypt to be a Satanically mind-darkened deceiver of mankind: Lie, be caught lying, lie more: there's nobody watching him do it.
Refuted and debunked on last page and previous pages adnossium

Pleas keep posting to show all here you cannot refute the evidence at, please keep posting to show all you are a dumb dumb.

Much appreciated.

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