Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

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Haw Haw

Chicago, IL

#19091 Nov 27, 2012
not ashamed wrote:
<quoted text> so whats my name ? Just curious as to what you come up with :)
Well as Not Ashamed is not a proper name, and you've never shared your real name (or even a false proper name) around here, I can't quite do you the same Soundex justice I just did for Terry L. Nichols.

And besides, with all his post-election weeping and wailing around here, you have to admit, it fit him like a glove.
Haw Haw

Chicago, IL

#19092 Nov 27, 2012
NoMo wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh Terry, u made a funny. How's prison?
Gee, It totally slipped my mind to laugh at that one. Truly I've stopped to change tires that were less flat.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#19093 Nov 27, 2012
Haw Haw wrote:
<quoted text>Gee, It totally slipped my mind to laugh at that one. Truly I've stopped to change tires that were less flat.
He's in there with no prize(Ted)..funny how the domestic terrorists are loving the Mormons, isn't it? I remember Terry saying Porter Rockwell was his hero.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#19094 Nov 27, 2012
not ashamed wrote:
<quoted text> so whats my name ? Just curious as to what you come up with :)
Why do u support a religious cult that systematically causes harm to your "homosexual friends? It's a question u seem to avoid at all costs.

Oh...
And how do u reconcile this in ur head?
Haw Haw

Chicago, IL

#19095 Nov 27, 2012
HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW!!!

ROFLMAO!!!

OMG this is soooo funny....

http://mormon.org/me/1gpp

Granted, I didn't last through the first 4 paragraphs before I had to stop.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#19096 Nov 27, 2012
Haw Haw wrote:
HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW!!!
ROFLMAO!!!
OMG this is soooo funny....
http://mormon.org/me/1gpp
Granted, I didn't last through the first 4 paragraphs before I had to stop.
"It's tax deductible! LOL"
This one is a riot and a therapist.

http://gawker.com/5917022/

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#19097 Nov 27, 2012
Haw Haw wrote:
1) Utah is a theocracy, so what's to prevent the Cult in Charge from doing what they damn well please in spite of the laws that they themselves indirectly make anyway?
2) Putting electricity through the genitals, along with administration of ipecac to induce vomiting, together with the administration of these negative reinforcements while showing gay pornography, followed by the withholding of said negative reinforcements while showing heterosexual pornography, is rather commonly known as aversion therapy. It is not known as nor is the same as electroconvulsive therapy, whereby the electrodes are placed on the head and shocks are administered to the brain, inducing convulsions in the patient. Thus your waste of space quoting the law you just did, does not even apply to the therapies in discussion.
Typical Mo diversion. Hey, another news flash for ya, mister. When you make a half-assed effort to gather information, ostensibly to "research" something, but only consider and report information that supports your predetermined conclusion, it's known as confirmation bias, silly. You always come out kicking and screaming for the cult. And the way you club people on here with your slanted commentary, you pepper it generously with a heavy dose of ad hominem.
Bye for now. Back to work for another day of pattern matching... You know, what your friend Terry calls poppycock.
Pattern matching, no wonder you let it out in these threads as a release from such a boring job.
1) The Catholic church did as you stated for who knows how long, breaking the law in spite of laws against what was being done. And they finally got busted big time. The LDS church in the last century has been about following the laws of the land, not breaking them. So the likely hood this church would do something to cause it's own demise by breaking laws it'd be found guilty of breaking is unlikely.
2) You speak of a couple wires to the genitals? they use to use electroshock therapy to help a person believe they weren't attracted to the same sex! Wires to the nuts would have been an option of relief to having your brain fried I would think.
Next, I don't agree with conversion therapy where aids are used to promote physical/mental pain and anguish. And anyone that's an adult that would subject themselves to such practices should really have their head examined.
See, you're missing an important element to this conversation. What's done to a minor who is sent by parents for conversion therapy is wrong. It's wrong because the parents want the conversion therapy and not necessarily the minor.
But what you're missing is most patients that go to these clinics, they are doing it of their own free will for whatever their reason is. Get it? The adults go because they want to change their sexual orientation for some purpose, rational or irrational.
So you can speak of what's done to minors as being wrong and I agree. But you can't speak for the adults that walk into these clinics and understanding what will take place, willingly subject themselves to that ordeal.

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#19098 Nov 27, 2012
Haw Haw wrote:
HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW!!!
ROFLMAO!!!
OMG this is soooo funny....
http://mormon.org/me/1gpp
Granted, I didn't last through the first 4 paragraphs before I had to stop.
To your sometimes sick and twisted thinking as manifested itself here, I see why you would find his challenges so fuuny.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#19100 Nov 28, 2012
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>
Pattern matching, no wonder you let it out in these threads as a release from such a boring job.
1) The Catholic church did as you stated for who knows how long, breaking the law in spite of laws against what was being done. And they finally got busted big time. The LDS church in the last century has been about following the laws of the land, not breaking them. So the likely hood this church would do something to cause it's own demise by breaking laws it'd be found guilty of breaking is unlikely.
2) You speak of a couple wires to the genitals? they use to use electroshock therapy to help a person believe they weren't attracted to the same sex! Wires to the nuts would have been an option of relief to having your brain fried I would think.
Next, I don't agree with conversion therapy where aids are used to promote physical/mental pain and anguish. And anyone that's an adult that would subject themselves to such practices should really have their head examined.
See, you're missing an important element to this conversation. What's done to a minor who is sent by parents for conversion therapy is wrong. It's wrong because the parents want the conversion therapy and not necessarily the minor.
But what you're missing is most patients that go to these clinics, they are doing it of their own free will for whatever their reason is. Get it? The adults go because they want to change their sexual orientation for some purpose, rational or irrational.
So you can speak of what's done to minors as being wrong and I agree. But you can't speak for the adults that walk into these clinics and understanding what will take place, willingly subject themselves to that ordeal.
And considering "Haw Haw"s conclusions from pattern matching, as evidenced from the result posted on this forum, what I've learned about the process is that it's utter BS. LOL!

Notice how neither of the prominent anti-LDS individuals disavowed the Rev. Robert Jeffres? They chose to divert instead? That's telling.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#19101 Nov 28, 2012
NoMo wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do u support a religious cult that systematically causes harm to your "homosexual friends? It's a question u seem to avoid at all costs.
Oh...
And how do u reconcile this in ur head?
Since your assertions are based upon your lies, there is nothing for anyone to "avoid" or "reconcile".

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#19102 Nov 28, 2012
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>
Pattern matching, no wonder you let it out in these threads as a release from such a boring job.
1) The Catholic church did as you stated for who knows how long, breaking the law in spite of laws against what was being done. And they finally got busted big time. The LDS church in the last century has been about following the laws of the land, not breaking them. So the likely hood this church would do something to cause it's own demise by breaking laws it'd be found guilty of breaking is unlikely.
2) You speak of a couple wires to the genitals? they use to use electroshock therapy to help a person believe they weren't attracted to the same sex! Wires to the nuts would have been an option of relief to having your brain fried I would think.
Next, I don't agree with conversion therapy where aids are used to promote physical/mental pain and anguish. And anyone that's an adult that would subject themselves to such practices should really have their head examined.
See, you're missing an important element to this conversation. What's done to a minor who is sent by parents for conversion therapy is wrong. It's wrong because the parents want the conversion therapy and not necessarily the minor.
But what you're missing is most patients that go to these clinics, they are doing it of their own free will for whatever their reason is. Get it? The adults go because they want to change their sexual orientation for some purpose, rational or irrational.
So you can speak of what's done to minors as being wrong and I agree. But you can't speak for the adults that walk into these clinics and understanding what will take place, willingly subject themselves to that ordeal.
Just another fine example of how religious bigots such as Haw Haw and NoMo pick and choose their arguments based upon their opinion of a particular church.

You find them supporting things such as the murder of unborn children in the womb at the behest of adults, or the right of adults to commit assisted suicide over "quality of life" issues, but when the same adult makes a choice to enter into the therapy of his or her choosing, Haw Haw and NoMo suddenly are outraged because they don't agree with the therapy, or the reasons the therapy exist.

The fact is, not everyone believes that homosexuality is a trait people are born with. Obviously, some believe that their homosexuality is a condition, deserving of treatment, and they seek out that treatment.

What business is it of some to deny an individual the treatment they choose?

Well, I can easily answer that: Those predisposed to "leftist" thinking must necessarily make choices for others based upon their own limited world view. They cannot allow people the liberty to make their own decisions when those decisions don't "fit in". And when they can falsely pin those decisions upon some organization they already have a beef with, all the better.

I find it humorous that both Haw Haw's and NoMo's behavior on this forum seems to border upon obsession, itself a treatable condition.

“I will not keep calm”

Since: Mar 08

Raise hell...change the world

#19103 Nov 28, 2012
NoMo wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do u support a religious cult that systematically causes harm to your "homosexual friends? It's a question u seem to avoid at all costs.
Oh...
And how do u reconcile this in ur head?
I have never avoided the question, and I have nothing to reconcile. I have told you numerous times my thoughts and feelings on the subject. Problem is you don't listen and I get tired of beating a dead horse. There is no point in answering the question yet again. You only hear what you want to hear or twist what I say to make it what you want it to be.
I support my faith. I support gay rights. Its really very simple.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#19104 Nov 28, 2012
Cary L Nickel wrote:
<quoted text>
And considering "Haw Haw"s conclusions from pattern matching, as evidenced from the result posted on this forum, what I've learned about the process is that it's utter BS. LOL!
Notice how neither of the prominent anti-LDS individuals disavowed the Rev. Robert Jeffres? They chose to divert instead? That's telling.
I disavow him. He's a nut case. But this is a LDS forum.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#19105 Nov 28, 2012
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>
Pattern matching, no wonder you let it out in these threads as a release from such a boring job.
1) The Catholic church did as you stated for who knows how long, breaking the law in spite of laws against what was being done. And they finally got busted big time. The LDS church in the last century has been about following the laws of the land, not breaking them. So the likely hood this church would do something to cause it's own demise by breaking laws it'd be found guilty of breaking is unlikely.
2) You speak of a couple wires to the genitals? they use to use electroshock therapy to help a person believe they weren't attracted to the same sex! Wires to the nuts would have been an option of relief to having your brain fried I would think.
Next, I don't agree with conversion therapy where aids are used to promote physical/mental pain and anguish. And anyone that's an adult that would subject themselves to such practices should really have their head examined.
See, you're missing an important element to this conversation. What's done to a minor who is sent by parents for conversion therapy is wrong. It's wrong because the parents want the conversion therapy and not necessarily the minor.
But what you're missing is most patients that go to these clinics, they are doing it of their own free will for whatever their reason is. Get it? The adults go because they want to change their sexual orientation for some purpose, rational or irrational.
So you can speak of what's done to minors as being wrong and I agree. But you can't speak for the adults that walk into these clinics and understanding what will take place, willingly subject themselves to that ordeal.
Oh, now you're changing your opinion? You have certainly in the past advocated the rights of parents to subject their children to this, and said it was for their own good.

And you're right. If an adult gay person wants to subject themselves to this, they have the right. They are made stupid by the teachings of Mormonism to think it is a rational thing to do, but they have the right. But it won't make a bit of difference. It does show the destructive nature of the teachings of Mormonism. When a cult can make you hate who you are, it has won. But it is still sick.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#19106 Nov 28, 2012
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>
To your sometimes sick and twisted thinking as manifested itself here, I see why you would find his challenges so fuuny.
It was ignorant, and I doubt it was true. His solution to living a life of total loneliness and without love was to attend your meetings and pay your tithing. That's just f**ked and ignorant. I wish we could check back with him 10 years from now, and see what he will have to say. He is a future Ex-Mormon.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#19107 Nov 28, 2012
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>

2) You speak of a couple wires to the genitals? they use to use electroshock therapy to help a person believe they weren't attracted to the same sex! Wires to the nuts would have been an option of relief to having your brain fried I would think.
I have to wonder if you do think. Do you even read what you write?

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#19108 Nov 28, 2012
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>I have to wonder if you do think. Do you even read what you write?
Maybe he should try both and then decide.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#19109 Nov 28, 2012
This is a bfd...heads up u evergreen lizards..they are coming for u too!

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/11/27/1242...

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#19110 Nov 28, 2012
Dr Oz is doing a show today about this, Dr Drew is doing one tonight...just imagine the day when Evergreen and ur evil quorum are outed for their torture.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#19111 Nov 28, 2012
People in Russia are protesting the LDS church: http://nhpr.org/post/russia-pro-putin-youths-...

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