Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

There are 32007 comments on the CNN story from Oct 12, 2011, titled Who says Mormons aren't Christians?. In it, CNN reports that:

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Haw Haw

Chicago, IL

#19057 Nov 25, 2012
not ashamed wrote:
<quoted text> what part of biblical commandment did you miss ?
Most all religions follow the same commandment.
No they don't. They typically call it an "offering". They do not force you into a "settlement" meeting at the end of the year to scrutinize what you gave with what you made. They do not withhold certain membership benefits based on what you pay. The verses in Malachi are not and were never intended to be a new testament law.

And while we're at it, you'll never get any word about where your tithing dollars go. Most other mainstream churches fully disclose this information.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#19058 Nov 25, 2012
pearl wrote:
<quoted text>It always boggles my mind that people who claim to be able to whatever they like, think the world works that way for everyone. It also shows a very limited imagination.
Limited empathy. Limited world view. Yes, she fit herself in a mold and wonders why everyone doesn't join her.
Haw Haw

Chicago, IL

#19059 Nov 25, 2012
not ashamed wrote:
<quoted text> I said you can dish it out, but not take it back. As in can't take the same thing in return. Seems pretty clear.
I'm responding to every post, so I'm taking what you're giving me... Again, I fail to get your point.

“I will not keep calm”

Since: Mar 08

Raise hell...change the world

#19060 Nov 25, 2012
pearl wrote:
<quoted text>I'm paying attention. Would you tell us, please, do you agree with the position the lds church has regarding homosexualality?
No I don't. I've made that clear, to my bishop as well. I think people are born with a certain sexual preference.

“I will not keep calm”

Since: Mar 08

Raise hell...change the world

#19061 Nov 25, 2012
pearl wrote:
<quoted text>It always boggles my mind that people who claim to be able to whatever they like, think the world works that way for everyone. It also shows a very limited imagination.
You asked if I could vote for a Muslim. My response was I can do anything I like. How is that thinking the world works a certain way. You took my comment out of context. Anyone in a free country can choose how they see things.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#19062 Nov 25, 2012
not ashamed wrote:
<quoted text>No I don't. I've made that clear, to my bishop as well. I think people are born with a certain sexual preference.
And u still support them with ur tithes and time..why? It makes no sense..

“I will not keep calm”

Since: Mar 08

Raise hell...change the world

#19063 Nov 25, 2012
Haw Haw wrote:
<quoted text>
No they don't. They typically call it an "offering". They do not force you into a "settlement" meeting at the end of the year to scrutinize what you gave with what you made. They do not withhold certain membership benefits based on what you pay. The verses in Malachi are not and were never intended to be a new testament law.
And while we're at it, you'll never get any word about where your tithing dollars go. Most other mainstream churches fully disclose this information.
I wasn't raised Mormon. I know how tithes and offerings work in other churches. My mother taught me to give 10% to the lord. She is baptist.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#19064 Nov 25, 2012
not ashamed wrote:
<quoted text>You asked if I could vote for a Muslim. My response was I can do anything I like. How is that thinking the world works a certain way. You took my comment out of context. Anyone in a free country can choose how they see things.
U have a profit to answer.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#19065 Nov 25, 2012
not ashamed wrote:
<quoted text>I wasn't raised Mormon. I know how tithes and offerings work in other churches. My mother taught me to give 10% to the lord. She is baptist.
The Lord? Lol, u are lining PaKKKer's pockets. And paying for Monson to have a Lear jet when he doesn't even know where he is. U paid for a mall that seems to have hired black water for security. But the worst is u paying for evergreen torture..can u imagine wanting to stay in that cult of yours soo much that u would let those evil lizard people shock your genitals, feed u ipecac and show u porn? That u aren't worthy if u don't try it?
Or..( the better alternative?)..just get married and fake it(because it will go away)..do u have any clue how this affects your gay children??
Play ur silly middle school games. The truth will still be here..or it will be history and u will be on the wrong side.
pearl

Salt Lake City, UT

#19066 Nov 25, 2012
not ashamed wrote:
<quoted text> No I don't. I've made that clear, to my bishop as well. I think people are born with a certain sexual preference.
How do you think the church got that one wrong?

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#19067 Nov 25, 2012
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
You're the one with the mental disorder, advocating abuse, and supporting the abusers.
You're a pathetic idiot. So is haw and numu. You all base anything you have to say about Mormons from a deep seeded, vile hatred that amazes me that you're still yet alive and haven't succumbed successfully to self-murder.
None of you have any idea of what percentage of children revealing homosexual attraction go through all the things you claim ALL MORMON HOMOSEXUAL CHILDREN MUST GO THROUGH.
There are supposedly 13 million plus Mormons in the world. You three pathetic idiots hold all 13 million Mormons accountable for the actions of an actual small number.
Then there's the fact that you don't differentiate reaction value between non-active Mormons who are no different then non-Mormons and that of active Mormons.
Then there's the fact that you don't differentiate between the smaller number of active 24/7 Mormons and those that may or may not attend just church service once or twice a month on Sunday and never the temples.
But again, you three pathetic idiots see no differences in any of that. If a single Mormon parent is guilty of negative actions to a supposed homosexual child, to you three pathetic idiots, all 13 million plus active and in-active Mormons are just as horrendously guilty.
Thoughts like that are an actual mental disorder. It's defined by a person who can't see actual differences between an individual(s) and an entire group of people and sums one action by one as the action of all others relative to that person. Check the APA if you have any disbeliefs. It's root cause is said to be paranoia and paranoias are "usually" all based in one or more abnormal fears.
Do 24/7 Mormon parents who have children hope those children will hopefully have children, etc fear the thought that one or more might be a homosexual? Of course. Billions of non-Mormon parents on this planet who have children and hope those children will have children etc have fears that one may be a homosexual. They fear that because it's a statistic (Google it if you have disbelief) that "most" true homosexuals do not have children. It is an actual small percentage of true homosexuals that will go through all the $ and time and legalities to have a biological child.
So the actual numbers of 24/7 active Mormons that would subject a child revealing homosexual attractions to such negative input that it would drive that child to self murder, are very few compared to the number of 24/7 active, semi-active and non-active parents that wouldn't do that to their child. And those few are the one's that you three rant and rave about and claim all 13 million Mormons are behind and connected to doing also.
You're all three pathetic extremists filled with unbridled hate and rage and for what single good reason? If you had children, would you use the same vile hate and rage to talk to them with?
And PS... I'm not married and have choose abstinence for about 6 years now. There is life without sex. Kind of nice I know now :)

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#19068 Nov 25, 2012
Haw Haw wrote:
<quoted text>
At least NOW you're honest about what Evergreen does to homosexuals: "I couldn't care less..."
Actually....having did some in depth research as I knew little of them, actual patients of Evergreen are adults. A minority of minors might be allowed in.
Many of the people that help run that organization since it's founding in 1989 are ex-patients. Many of the counsellors/therapists are ex-patients, you know, the patients that once were SSA who now say they aren't. I assume you'll call them all liars and that won't be a surprise :)
Also, they don't use electroshock therapy. And if they use any chemicals for treatment, the patient has to confirm the usage of them.
Your references to the Mormon church and ECT is based on what it did do over 30 years ago, not in recent decades. Also, ECT is monitored by laws in all 50 states. One of the laws for a long while now is that a patient has to be an adult to be able to choose to participate in ECT as they still use ETC for manic depressives and or other mental disorders by shrinks.
It's nice that you wish to project a false view that the only persons entering Evergreen are Mormon minors that are being forced there by Mormon parents and are being forced into electroshock therapy (ECT) against their will by Mormon shrinks but that is no surprise coming from you as usual :)

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#19069 Nov 25, 2012
NoMo wrote:
<quoted text>
Ur cult is causing people to kill themselves.
So are you, what's the difference? Some of them deny their kid to be their attraction and the kid commits self murder over the stressful reactions. You urge those same kids to be their sexual attraction, something their to young to be and they commit self murder over the stressful reactions.
You're no different of a murderer then those you deem a murderer. Gotta be somemore of your idiocy at work :)
Haw Haw

Chicago, IL

#19071 Nov 26, 2012
not ashamed wrote:
<quoted text> I wasn't raised Mormon. I know how tithes and offerings work in other churches. My mother taught me to give 10% to the lord. She is baptist.
Then you know it is not a "commandment" anywhere else but in your cult. It might be the "ideal" of people like your mother but it is not a "commandment" that you must follow or suffer the fires of hell. Worse yet, if you don't like where the money goes (because they actually tell you in the other churches) you can actually decide to put that money to other uses.

Please tell me that every November/December in the baptist church you were forced to meet personally with the pastor and he reviewed and scrutinized what you had given to the offering plate throughout the year, and if it wasn't sufficient, he threatened to take away benefits. I really want to hear that.

Again, you refuse to open your eyes as to just how much of a cult your group is. It has always been on the other side of that line. And for you to equate it with other mainline Protestant denominations is just ludicrous. The autocratic nature puts it in another league entirely. You are truly blind.
Haw Haw

Chicago, IL

#19072 Nov 26, 2012
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually....having did some in depth research as I knew little of them, actual patients of Evergreen are adults. A minority of minors might be allowed in.
Many of the people that help run that organization since it's founding in 1989 are ex-patients. Many of the counsellors/therapists are ex-patients, you know, the patients that once were SSA who now say they aren't. I assume you'll call them all liars and that won't be a surprise :)
Also, they don't use electroshock therapy. And if they use any chemicals for treatment, the patient has to confirm the usage of them.
Your references to the Mormon church and ECT is based on what it did do over 30 years ago, not in recent decades. Also, ECT is monitored by laws in all 50 states. One of the laws for a long while now is that a patient has to be an adult to be able to choose to participate in ECT as they still use ETC for manic depressives and or other mental disorders by shrinks.
It's nice that you wish to project a false view that the only persons entering Evergreen are Mormon minors that are being forced there by Mormon parents and are being forced into electroshock therapy (ECT) against their will by Mormon shrinks but that is no surprise coming from you as usual :)
I call BS on your BS. Again, I've pointed to numerous videos and testimony of persons who have gone through this as recently as 2006. And there will be more who come forth and say it happened more recently, I fear.

Because you've made the choice to not have sex and still function and it works for you does not mean it works in the same manner for others. And it's a very poor assumption to imply that every same sex relationship is solely based on sex. In fact, these assumptions are quite arrogant of you. But then again, you feel that the world revolves around you and your superior intellect and your "in-depth" research. It does not. You have quite a few screws loose, as anyone who reads your own posts here and considers themselves a functional member of society can readily discern.

And with that, I'm through paying attention to you for another few weeks. I need to go to work. Enjoy your day alone pasting your own mind diarrhea for everyone else to ignore. I'm too busy for it.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#19073 Nov 26, 2012
Haw Haw wrote:
<quoted text>
You have no clue of what she does outside this forum. You just don't like the heat she or the rest of us put on your cult.
Heat? Bwaaaahaaahaaaahaaaaa!

4 or 5 members of the church have chosen to engage you, at their leisure, on this forum. Other than that, no one even knows you exist.

Your "heat" doesn't even count as a gentle warm breeze.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#19075 Nov 26, 2012
Haw Haw wrote:
<quoted text>You finally admit that you're a cult now (albeit in your trademark wishy-washy way). Now have a look (if you dare) at just why we call your group a cult: Warning: This video is a classic. Note the late 60's/early 70's Moog synthesizer... Switched-On Cults!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =mnNSe5XYp6EXX
Hey..I found a blog about the instruction manual for this video..

http://mormonthinkblog2012.blogspot.com/2012/...
Haw Haw

Chicago, IL

#19076 Nov 26, 2012
Cary L Nickel wrote:
<quoted text>
Heat? Bwaaaahaaahaaaahaaaaa!
4 or 5 members of the church have chosen to engage you, at their leisure, on this forum. Other than that, no one even knows you exist.
Your "heat" doesn't even count as a gentle warm breeze.
Hey, funny you should post to me today. Based on our conversations the past couple of weeks regarding extremists, I'll have to tell you what ate at me briefly today at work as I was doing some pattern matching in a raw dataset I was given to munge through. I am wont to use what's called a Soundex function or algorithm quite a bit to find close matches between place names, person names, town names, and so forth to find and correct common spelling errors in the massive amount of data my company receives and processes every day ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soundex ). And so the wheels were turning...

Cary L Nickel.... Cary L Nickel.... Cary L Nickel....

Hmmmm...

Thinking about your latest Michigan Militia-esque rantings on here your name sounds familiar....

Cary... Carry... Cerry... Terry!!

Nickel... Nickels... Nichels... Nichols!!

Let's see: what was his middle name... According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Nichols it is... wait for it... LYNN!!

Eureka!! That's it!!! Cary L Nickel... Terry L. Nichols!!!

The Soundex scores of those two names are simply off the charts.

Coincidence?

Not in my line of work.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#19078 Nov 26, 2012
Haw Haw wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey, funny you should post to me today. Based on our conversations the past couple of weeks regarding extremists, I'll have to tell you what ate at me briefly today at work as I was doing some pattern matching in a raw dataset I was given to munge through. I am wont to use what's called a Soundex function or algorithm quite a bit to find close matches between place names, person names, town names, and so forth to find and correct common spelling errors in the massive amount of data my company receives and processes every day ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soundex ). And so the wheels were turning...
Cary L Nickel.... Cary L Nickel.... Cary L Nickel....
Hmmmm...
Thinking about your latest Michigan Militia-esque rantings on here your name sounds familiar....
Cary... Carry... Cerry... Terry!!
Nickel... Nickels... Nichels... Nichols!!
Let's see: what was his middle name... According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Nichols it is... wait for it... LYNN!!
Eureka!! That's it!!! Cary L Nickel... Terry L. Nichols!!!
The Soundex scores of those two names are simply off the charts.
Coincidence?
Not in my line of work.
BwahahahahaA...the doomsday prepper!
Haw Haw

Chicago, IL

#19079 Nov 26, 2012
NoMo wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey..I found a blog about the instruction manual for this video..
http://mormonthinkblog2012.blogspot.com/2012/...
Thanks for that wonderful addition to my E-MoLibrary (or is it Mo-ELibrary?). It goes right beside the PDF of the 2010 edition of the Super Secret Bishop's Book of Instruction that Dana shared with me back then.

Thanks to both of you!! I'll have to make use of this when I answer the next PopUp Ad that encourages me to speak Online with an E-Mishie!(or is it IM-Mishie? Mish-IM-Mie? MissionIMie? IM-Mishie?)

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