Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

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“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#18841 Nov 19, 2012
NoMo wrote:
The truth. Greedy vultures, not unions took away your wonderbread and all those jobs. Wake up!
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/11/19/1...
Disgusting.

“I will not keep calm”

Since: Mar 08

Raise hell...change the world

#18843 Nov 19, 2012
Haw Haw wrote:
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You & I have already tangled on certain things cult, like the electroshock therapy sponsored by your cult's own Evergreen International. In case you don't remember, you repeatedly sat here and denied that it occurred, and I brought you multiple pieces of evidence that it indeed did occur and is probably still occurring, yet you chose to deny it and put your naive head in the sand. Here's yet another video about this that came up since our little discussion about that:
http://www.myspace.com/video/sister-momo-and-...
With your head so blissfully buried in the sand, I see no point arguing with you, especially about making decisions.
And I see you finally admitted to voting along with your cult's bloc and opting for Rmoney. So much for your facade of pretending to be an independent mind. I know - you're an independent mind that sides with your cult.
I wasn't glossing over anything. I have just addressed it so many times that it seems redundant to address it again. My views on homosexuality have been made clear. Time and time again. I don't have a problem with same sex relationships. I also have no hand in what other people do with their kids.
There are many people who are not Mormon who try to change their childrens sexuality as opposed to just simply loving them. I am not one of those people.
However, not being opposed to the same things some other members of the church are, does is no way shake my faith in the church. Which is my decision to make and does not affect you in the least.
Haw Haw

Chicago, IL

#18844 Nov 19, 2012
not ashamed wrote:
<quoted text>I wasn't glossing over anything. I have just addressed it so many times that it seems redundant to address it again. My views on homosexuality have been made clear. Time and time again. I don't have a problem with same sex relationships. I also have no hand in what other people do with their kids.
There are many people who are not Mormon who try to change their childrens sexuality as opposed to just simply loving them. I am not one of those people.
However, not being opposed to the same things some other members of the church are, does is no way shake my faith in the church. Which is my decision to make and does not affect you in the least.
Yes - if you close your eyes reaaallly tight, put your fingers in your ears, and bury your head in the sand, you'll only see what you want to see in your cult.

Doesn't change reality in terms of the truth at all, but it sure allows you to sleep well at night, doesn't it?

“I will not keep calm”

Since: Mar 08

Raise hell...change the world

#18845 Nov 19, 2012
Haw Haw wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes - if you close your eyes reaaallly tight, put your fingers in your ears, and bury your head in the sand, you'll only see what you want to see in your cult.
Doesn't change reality in terms of the truth at all, but it sure allows you to sleep well at night, doesn't it?
I treat people well, all people. Not just those of my faith or sexuality. I stood by my ex boyfriend as he admitted his homosexuality to the church and as he left the church. I loved him enough as a person not to care if he was gay, and he loved me enough not to care if I was Mormon. I serve Christ to the best of my ability, though trust me when I say I make more than my fair share of mistakes and bad decisions. I sleep just fine at night, with my eyes wide open. After all, I have no shame. Thanks for the concern though.
Haw Haw

Chicago, IL

#18846 Nov 19, 2012
not ashamed wrote:
<quoted text>I treat people well, all people. Not just those of my faith or sexuality. I stood by my ex boyfriend as he admitted his homosexuality to the church and as he left the church. I loved him enough as a person not to care if he was gay, and he loved me enough not to care if I was Mormon. I serve Christ to the best of my ability, though trust me when I say I make more than my fair share of mistakes and bad decisions. I sleep just fine at night, with my eyes wide open. After all, I have no shame. Thanks for the concern though.
Yet you still deny the barbaric electroshock vomit porn aversion therapy your cult still lays on unsuspecting gay teens who are ashamed of who they are - driving many of them to suicide. In spite of what you know, you refuse to take a substantial stand in opposition. You and others like you are the reason why there is an epidemic of teen suicide amongst members of your cult.
Haw Haw

Chicago, IL

#18847 Nov 19, 2012
But I know what happens - if members take a stand, the cult throws them out. Like what happened to Peter and Mary Danzig. Some people are courageous. Others just keep quiet and let things fall where they may. I know - it doesn't affect you so you see no need to make a decision or get involved....

Since: Oct 08

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#18848 Nov 19, 2012
Haw Haw wrote:
<quoted text>Yet you still deny the barbaric electroshock vomit porn aversion therapy your cult still lays on unsuspecting gay teens who are ashamed of who they are - driving many of them to suicide. In spite of what you know, you refuse to take a substantial stand in opposition. You and others like you are the reason why there is an epidemic of teen suicide amongst members of your cult.
Yes, exactly...they torture people but that's ok because the "church is true"?? There are on average 5 suicide attempts a day in this state by youth or very young adults..the police found 3 teens dead here last week, no one has even come to claim their bodies... i guess since none of that directly affects her, "those people" dont matter. She tries real hard to sound neutral but in the end either shuts her mouth or backs up the quorum. Gotta Keep Sweet!

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#18849 Nov 19, 2012
Haw Haw wrote:
But I know what happens - if members take a stand, the cult throws them out. Like what happened to Peter and Mary Danzig. Some people are courageous. Others just keep quiet and let things fall where they may. I know - it doesn't affect you so you see no need to make a decision or get involved....
If more members had courage, the morg would have to change or become even more cult-like.

“I will not keep calm”

Since: Mar 08

Raise hell...change the world

#18850 Nov 19, 2012
Haw Haw wrote:
But I know what happens - if members take a stand, the cult throws them out. Like what happened to Peter and Mary Danzig. Some people are courageous. Others just keep quiet and let things fall where they may. I know - it doesn't affect you so you see no need to make a decision or get involved....
I haven't been thrown out and I make my views very clear. Teen suicide is among all cultures, especially the gay culture. Mormon or not. There shame is unfortunate and comes from parents of all religions. What you should be doing is advocating for them instead of spending so much energy arguing with Mormonism. If you truly care.
Haw Haw

Chicago, IL

#18852 Nov 19, 2012
not ashamed wrote:
<quoted text>I haven't been thrown out and I make my views very clear. Teen suicide is among all cultures, especially the gay culture. Mormon or not. There shame is unfortunate and comes from parents of all religions. What you should be doing is advocating for them instead of spending so much energy arguing with Mormonism. If you truly care.
Sorry, you don't get a pass that easily. In my area, the biggest threat to LGBT people comes from the front groups that are funded by your cult to remove or further restrict same sex marriage. That alone brought me out against your cult, and what I've found out about it since keeps me here, because I realize now that your cult is authoritarian, power-hungry, inherently dangerous and anti-American.

“I will not keep calm”

Since: Mar 08

Raise hell...change the world

#18853 Nov 19, 2012
Haw Haw wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, you don't get a pass that easily. In my area, the biggest threat to LGBT people comes from the front groups that are funded by your cult to remove or further restrict same sex marriage. That alone brought me out against your cult, and what I've found out about it since keeps me here, because I realize now that your cult is authoritarian, power-hungry, inherently dangerous and anti-American.
Did I ask for a pass?? I have no shame in my views on anything.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#18854 Nov 19, 2012
not ashamed wrote:
<quoted text>Did I ask for a pass?? I have no shame in my views on anything.
What views?

“I will not keep calm”

Since: Mar 08

Raise hell...change the world

#18855 Nov 19, 2012
NoMo wrote:
<quoted text>
What views?
I assume that is sarcasm. If you don't know my views by now, you obviously have never paid attention.

Since: Oct 08

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#18856 Nov 19, 2012
not ashamed wrote:
<quoted text>I assume that is sarcasm. If you don't know my views by now, you obviously have never paid attention.
I hear you trying so hard to stay in the middle of the road. What's the personality type?..a pleaser.
I think u actually have opinions about some things but the barriers in ur head stop u.
Examples?
..the presidential election
...gay rights
...anything that conflicts with the Fox News view
...anything that conflicts with ur cults teachings

It's that Molly thing u do, constantly.

“I will not keep calm”

Since: Mar 08

Raise hell...change the world

#18857 Nov 19, 2012
NoMo wrote:
<quoted text>
I hear you trying so hard to stay in the middle of the road. What's the personality type?..a pleaser.
I think u actually have opinions about some things but the barriers in ur head stop u.
Examples?
..the presidential election
...gay rights
...anything that conflicts with the Fox New s view
...anything that conflicts with ur cults teachings
It's that Molly thing u do, constantly.
Wrong. Besides which, I don't watch the news.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#18858 Nov 19, 2012
NoMo wrote:
<quoted text>I hear you trying so hard to stay in the middle of the road. What's the personality type?..a pleaser.
I think u actually have opinions about some things but the barriers in ur head stop u.
Examples?
..the presidential election
...gay rights
...anything that conflicts with the Fox News view
...anything that conflicts with ur cults teachings

It's that Molly thing u do, constantly.
But the worst one is..when u waffle about gay suicides within ur cult. When u ignore the evils of evergreen, west ridge academy, the multitudes of groups within and totally sanctioned by ur pyramid religion who enthusiastically hurt people....that is really sick

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#18859 Nov 19, 2012
not ashamed wrote:
<quoted text>Wrong. Besides which, I don't watch the news.
That doesn't surprise me

“I will not keep calm”

Since: Mar 08

Raise hell...change the world

#18860 Nov 19, 2012
NoMo wrote:
<quoted text>
But the worst one is..when u waffle about gay suicides within ur cult. When u ignore the evils of evergreen, west ridge academy, the multitudes of groups within and totally sanctioned by ur pyramid religion who enthusiastically hurt people....that is really sick
I don't ignore, I do things differently than you. Doesn't make you better or right. You just come off as crazy.

“I will not keep calm”

Since: Mar 08

Raise hell...change the world

#18861 Nov 19, 2012
NoMo wrote:
<quoted text>
That doesn't surprise me
haha that's funny coming from one who makes decisions from watching youtube.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#18862 Nov 19, 2012
not ashamed wrote:
<quoted text>I don't ignore, I do things differently than you. Doesn't make you better or right. You just come off as crazy.
What things?

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