Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

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Haw Haw

Chicago, IL

#18847 Nov 19, 2012
But I know what happens - if members take a stand, the cult throws them out. Like what happened to Peter and Mary Danzig. Some people are courageous. Others just keep quiet and let things fall where they may. I know - it doesn't affect you so you see no need to make a decision or get involved....

Since: Oct 08

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#18848 Nov 19, 2012
Haw Haw wrote:
<quoted text>Yet you still deny the barbaric electroshock vomit porn aversion therapy your cult still lays on unsuspecting gay teens who are ashamed of who they are - driving many of them to suicide. In spite of what you know, you refuse to take a substantial stand in opposition. You and others like you are the reason why there is an epidemic of teen suicide amongst members of your cult.
Yes, exactly...they torture people but that's ok because the "church is true"?? There are on average 5 suicide attempts a day in this state by youth or very young adults..the police found 3 teens dead here last week, no one has even come to claim their bodies... i guess since none of that directly affects her, "those people" dont matter. She tries real hard to sound neutral but in the end either shuts her mouth or backs up the quorum. Gotta Keep Sweet!

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#18849 Nov 19, 2012
Haw Haw wrote:
But I know what happens - if members take a stand, the cult throws them out. Like what happened to Peter and Mary Danzig. Some people are courageous. Others just keep quiet and let things fall where they may. I know - it doesn't affect you so you see no need to make a decision or get involved....
If more members had courage, the morg would have to change or become even more cult-like.

“I will not keep calm”

Since: Mar 08

Raise hell...change the world

#18850 Nov 19, 2012
Haw Haw wrote:
But I know what happens - if members take a stand, the cult throws them out. Like what happened to Peter and Mary Danzig. Some people are courageous. Others just keep quiet and let things fall where they may. I know - it doesn't affect you so you see no need to make a decision or get involved....
I haven't been thrown out and I make my views very clear. Teen suicide is among all cultures, especially the gay culture. Mormon or not. There shame is unfortunate and comes from parents of all religions. What you should be doing is advocating for them instead of spending so much energy arguing with Mormonism. If you truly care.
Haw Haw

Chicago, IL

#18852 Nov 19, 2012
not ashamed wrote:
<quoted text>I haven't been thrown out and I make my views very clear. Teen suicide is among all cultures, especially the gay culture. Mormon or not. There shame is unfortunate and comes from parents of all religions. What you should be doing is advocating for them instead of spending so much energy arguing with Mormonism. If you truly care.
Sorry, you don't get a pass that easily. In my area, the biggest threat to LGBT people comes from the front groups that are funded by your cult to remove or further restrict same sex marriage. That alone brought me out against your cult, and what I've found out about it since keeps me here, because I realize now that your cult is authoritarian, power-hungry, inherently dangerous and anti-American.

“I will not keep calm”

Since: Mar 08

Raise hell...change the world

#18853 Nov 19, 2012
Haw Haw wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, you don't get a pass that easily. In my area, the biggest threat to LGBT people comes from the front groups that are funded by your cult to remove or further restrict same sex marriage. That alone brought me out against your cult, and what I've found out about it since keeps me here, because I realize now that your cult is authoritarian, power-hungry, inherently dangerous and anti-American.
Did I ask for a pass?? I have no shame in my views on anything.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#18854 Nov 19, 2012
not ashamed wrote:
<quoted text>Did I ask for a pass?? I have no shame in my views on anything.
What views?

“I will not keep calm”

Since: Mar 08

Raise hell...change the world

#18855 Nov 19, 2012
NoMo wrote:
<quoted text>
What views?
I assume that is sarcasm. If you don't know my views by now, you obviously have never paid attention.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#18856 Nov 19, 2012
not ashamed wrote:
<quoted text>I assume that is sarcasm. If you don't know my views by now, you obviously have never paid attention.
I hear you trying so hard to stay in the middle of the road. What's the personality type?..a pleaser.
I think u actually have opinions about some things but the barriers in ur head stop u.
Examples?
..the presidential election
...gay rights
...anything that conflicts with the Fox News view
...anything that conflicts with ur cults teachings

It's that Molly thing u do, constantly.

“I will not keep calm”

Since: Mar 08

Raise hell...change the world

#18857 Nov 19, 2012
NoMo wrote:
<quoted text>
I hear you trying so hard to stay in the middle of the road. What's the personality type?..a pleaser.
I think u actually have opinions about some things but the barriers in ur head stop u.
Examples?
..the presidential election
...gay rights
...anything that conflicts with the Fox New s view
...anything that conflicts with ur cults teachings
It's that Molly thing u do, constantly.
Wrong. Besides which, I don't watch the news.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#18858 Nov 19, 2012
NoMo wrote:
<quoted text>I hear you trying so hard to stay in the middle of the road. What's the personality type?..a pleaser.
I think u actually have opinions about some things but the barriers in ur head stop u.
Examples?
..the presidential election
...gay rights
...anything that conflicts with the Fox News view
...anything that conflicts with ur cults teachings

It's that Molly thing u do, constantly.
But the worst one is..when u waffle about gay suicides within ur cult. When u ignore the evils of evergreen, west ridge academy, the multitudes of groups within and totally sanctioned by ur pyramid religion who enthusiastically hurt people....that is really sick

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#18859 Nov 19, 2012
not ashamed wrote:
<quoted text>Wrong. Besides which, I don't watch the news.
That doesn't surprise me

“I will not keep calm”

Since: Mar 08

Raise hell...change the world

#18860 Nov 19, 2012
NoMo wrote:
<quoted text>
But the worst one is..when u waffle about gay suicides within ur cult. When u ignore the evils of evergreen, west ridge academy, the multitudes of groups within and totally sanctioned by ur pyramid religion who enthusiastically hurt people....that is really sick
I don't ignore, I do things differently than you. Doesn't make you better or right. You just come off as crazy.

“I will not keep calm”

Since: Mar 08

Raise hell...change the world

#18861 Nov 19, 2012
NoMo wrote:
<quoted text>
That doesn't surprise me
haha that's funny coming from one who makes decisions from watching youtube.

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#18862 Nov 19, 2012
not ashamed wrote:
<quoted text>I don't ignore, I do things differently than you. Doesn't make you better or right. You just come off as crazy.
What things?

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#18863 Nov 19, 2012
not ashamed wrote:
<quoted text>haha that's funny coming from one who makes decisions from watching youtube.
Haha that's funny from a Molly who doesn't even watch the news

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#18864 Nov 19, 2012
NoMo wrote:
<quoted text>What things?
I honestly wish u did do 'things...maybe not where you are but around here people are dying for ur sacred crap. It's a silent epidemic and for anyone to sustain this bs is either a hater or an idiot. Or...one of those.."suicides happen in all sorts of groups, stop blaming the Mormons" responses, ie an idiot.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#18865 Nov 19, 2012
NoMo wrote:
<quoted text>
But the worst one is..when u waffle about gay suicides within ur cult. When u ignore the evils of evergreen, west ridge academy, the multitudes of groups within and totally sanctioned by ur pyramid religion who enthusiastically hurt people....that is really sick
The sickness is in your hatred and intolerance, and in your unnatural and unhealthy negative obsession with the LDS Church.

Suicide is the sad result of an individual's decision, nothing more. The suicide rate among gays, across the board and nationwide, is higher than the national average. It would appear that being gay is a far higher risk factor for suicide than being the member of any religion.

No one is involved with Evergreen unless they want to be, and it is a person's own choice to utilize the program. I support individual freedom, thus I support not only the existence of the organization, but the right of people to choose to become involved with it.

After reviewing West Ridge Academy's website (since I'd never heard of it before), and reading independent testimonials, I see it's purpose, and it is a good one. However, parents have the right to remove a child from West Ridge at any time, and parents remain in ultimate control. Again, free choice.

So again, you can harp away with your religious bigotry, but by now you must realize there are quite a few of us you simply cannot sway, primarily because we don't take you seriously at all.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#18866 Nov 19, 2012
Haw Haw wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, you don't get a pass that easily. In my area, the biggest threat to LGBT people comes from the front groups that are funded by your cult to remove or further restrict same sex marriage. That alone brought me out against your cult, and what I've found out about it since keeps me here, because I realize now that your cult is authoritarian, power-hungry, inherently dangerous and anti-American.
You must think pretty highly of yourself that you think anyone requires a "pass" from you.

Believe me when I say: Your opinion of yourself is considerably higher than warranted.

No one requires, nor has anyone requested, a "pass" from you.

What's more, I will fight every attempt to institute same sex marriage with my support and my vote. Not because my church has told me to, because it hasn't, but because the Holy Bible itself, used by myriad religions organizations, declares homosexuality to be "abomination".

I'll take the unchanging word of God over the increasingly unsteady word of mankind.

"The road to Hell is paved with good intentions."

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#18867 Nov 19, 2012
Cary L Nickel wrote:
<quoted text>The sickness is in your hatred and intolerance, and in your unnatural and unhealthy negative obsession with the LDS Church.

Suicide is the sad result of an individual's decision, nothing more. The suicide rate among gays, across the board and nationwide, is higher than the national average. It would appear that being gay is a far higher risk factor for suicide than being the member of any religion.

No one is involved with Evergreen unless they want to be, and it is a person's own choice to utilize the program. I support individual freedom, thus I support not only the existence of the organization, but the right of people to choose to become involved with it.

After reviewing West Ridge Academy's website (since I'd never heard of it before), and reading independent testimonials, I see it's purpose, and it is a good one. However, parents have the right to remove a child from West Ridge at any time, and parents remain in ultimate control. Again, free choice.

So again, you can harp away with your religious bigotry, but by now you must realize there are quite a few of us you simply cannot sway, primarily because we don't take you seriously at all.
Did u know.. Ur group is a minority now? U old white male homophobic bigoted gun toting creeps are a minority. How does it feel? Or has it really sunk in yet?
U are a really sick freak to support evergreen and west ridge. It doesn't surprise me. U cultists are predictable aren't u?

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