Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

Oct 12, 2011 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: CNN

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Being that over 50 percent of abortions performed kill female babies, and being that 100 percent of abortion complications occur to women, including complications that result in the woman's death, is it any wonder many women don't support abortion on demand?
Being that blue collar individuals, overall, support individual liberty, and the free market, at higher rates than some other classes, is it any wonder that they support candidates who reflect those views?
Being that 75 percent of bitterness and anger occurs in liberals and Democrats who don't understand liberty, such as, is it any wonder OregonSux can continue to post bitter and angry messages for people to laugh at on nearly a daily basis?
It is any wonder that some people are so stupid as to think there is a "first class" on a campaign plane?
well said.

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I had a JW talk to me about this one time. I asked him if he had a TV. He said yes. I asked him "why"? Because if anything is of the world, it's television. I have never seen a Watchtower TV station, so what programs you watch, are programs of the world, that you are inviting in. But the same can also be said of books(Not printed by the Watchtower of course), an education, radio, or any means of mass communication, like the computer your are using to post here. Christians can bring the teachings of Christ to the government. Through passing laws of mercy and grace. Working to bring a more Christlike society is not forbidden. The Watchtower tries to do so through it's missionary efforts. Many Christians, like myself, do so through working with the poor and homeless. A Godly politician can do so through passing laws to help the same. The evil one may control this world, I'll never deny that. But we, as Christians, have a duty to God to never stop trying to make a difference. What we do for the lest of God's children, we are doing it unto him.
Just because the evil one controls the world does not mean we are to ever stop trying, in all aspects of life. We are letting God down when we do so.
You are so right, we as Christians have a duty towards our fellow humans, and you hit the nail on the head when you say we should work at bringing a more Christlike society. That is the mission of JW's. It is of tantamount importance, as a Christlike society will be the only one left on the earth in the near future, and those individuals who are not Christlike will be removed.

Proverbs 2:20-22
"That thou mayest walk in the way of good men, and keep the paths of the righteous.
For the upright shall dwell in the land, and the perfect shall remain in it.
But the wicked shall be cut off from the earth, and the transgressors shall be rooted out of it".(KJV)

Psalm 37:10-11
"For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be. But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace".(KJV)

Matthew 5:5
"Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth".(KJV)

Prophesy concerning Jesus, what he will do:

Isaiah 2:4
"And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more".(KJV)

The kingdom we pray for in the Lord's prayer:

Isaiah 9:7
"Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this".(KJV)

This will not be thanks to any human government. Hence, getting overly involved with politics is like trying to save a ship that is going to sink.

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<quoted text>Being that over 50 percent of abortions performed kill female babies, and being that 100 percent of abortion complications occur to women, including complications that result in the woman's death, is it any wonder many women don't support abortion on demand?

Being that blue collar individuals, overall, support individual liberty, and the free market, at higher rates than some other classes, is it any wonder that they support candidates who reflect those views?

Being that 75 percent of bitterness and anger occurs in liberals and Democrats who don't understand liberty, such as, is it any wonder OregonSux can continue to post bitter and angry messages for people to laugh at on nearly a daily basis?

It is any wonder that some people are so stupid as to think there is a "first class" on a campaign plane?
U prefer coat hangers?

Romney evades taxes thru a trust with the church..

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2012/...

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You are so right, we as Christians have a duty towards our fellow humans, and you hit the nail on the head when you say we should work at bringing a more Christlike society. That is the mission of JW's. It is of tantamount importance, as a Christlike society will be the only one left on the earth in the near future, and those individuals who are not Christlike will be removed.
Proverbs 2:20-22
"That thou mayest walk in the way of good men, and keep the paths of the righteous.
For the upright shall dwell in the land, and the perfect shall remain in it.
But the wicked shall be cut off from the earth, and the transgressors shall be rooted out of it".(KJV)
Psalm 37:10-11
"For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be. But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace".(KJV)
Matthew 5:5
"Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth".(KJV)
Prophesy concerning Jesus, what he will do:
Isaiah 2:4
"And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more".(KJV)
The kingdom we pray for in the Lord's prayer:
Isaiah 9:7
"Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this".(KJV)
This will not be thanks to any human government. Hence, getting overly involved with politics is like trying to save a ship that is going to sink.
But I don't see any just or merciful God caring that a person votes or gets involved in trying to make a difference. That would get you disfellowshipped in the Watchtower Society. It would be covered under the rules of love:

Romans 13:10
Love does no harm to its neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

1 Peter 4:8
Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins.

1 Corinthians 13:13
And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

Proverbs 10:12
Hatred stirs up dissension, but love covers over all wrongs.

If we are serving in government for the betterment of all mankind, that is loving them. That is the will of God.

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Cary L Nickel wrote:
<quoted text>Being that over 50 percent of abortions performed kill female babies, and being that 100 percent of abortion complications occur to women, including complications that result in the woman's death, is it any wonder many women don't support abortion on demand?

Being that blue collar individuals, overall, support individual liberty, and the free market, at higher rates than some other classes, is it any wonder that they support candidates who reflect those views?

Being that 75 percent of bitterness and anger occurs in liberals and Democrats who don't understand liberty, such as, is it any wonder OregonSux can continue to post bitter and angry messages for people to laugh at on nearly a daily basis?

It is any wonder that some people are so stupid as to think there is a "first class" on a campaign plane?
Maybe this is your vision..

http://mobile.alternet.org/alternet/ #!/entry/508ecfe8d7fc7b5670389 f31

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Because leaving it up to the states is such a horrible idea..

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Oooh...what's this??? Contraception should be criminal? Voting for the Taliban because u hate Obama so much is gonna come back to haunt u.

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"With his hometown paper endorsing the president and his home state supporting Obama nearly 2-to-1, I wish we could poll Mitt's servants." - LG

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But I don't see any just or merciful God caring that a person votes or gets involved in trying to make a difference. That would get you disfellowshipped in the Watchtower Society. It would be covered under the rules of love:
Romans 13:10
Love does no harm to its neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.
1 Peter 4:8
Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins.
1 Corinthians 13:13
And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
Proverbs 10:12
Hatred stirs up dissension, but love covers over all wrongs.
If we are serving in government for the betterment of all mankind, that is loving them. That is the will of God.
When Jesus spoke of love, it was not in the context of reforming (bettering) the world with it. If that would have been possible then he would have/or would be planning to do so in the future.

In fact, Jesus was a perfect example for all Christians when he himself did not get involved in politics, although he could have easily, as the people wanted to make him King. And what an amazing king he would have made! Imagine all that love. But that was not God’s will. Would it be logical if he wanted those who imitate Jesus, i.e. his followers (Christians) to get involved in governments? They would not be imitating Jesus if they did.(God’s will for Christians is to preach HIS government (the Good news of the Kingdom), and teach them how to become subjects of that Kingdom).

The role of the Kingdom is not the reformation (betterment) of everyone either, but of only those who want to be reformed by it and eventually to remove those who do not.

The evil in the world will not be conquered by love but by means of God’s Kingdom.
No earthly government will ever conquer evil. No matter how much love there is in the world some people will not change. God knows that. Only Gods’ government will conquer evil, by removing it and those who cause it, as per the scriptures I quoted in the earlier post.

Also, when Peter was talking about love, he was not talking about reforming the world. He was addressing the Christian congregation,(the house of God) reminding them to keep themselves separate from the nations and to stay morally clean. To love each other would keep them from being critical of one another because with love, they would be able to look over and forgive each others “sins” and stay united instead of keeping grudges and causing disunity etc. Cross reference Proverbs 10:12 “Hatred stirs up trouble; love overlooks the wrongs that others do”.(CEV)

So, JWs do not vote as they have already cast their votes for God’s Government, the only answer to mankind's woes.


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Please visit www.blacklds.org for accurate information regarding the LDS stance and history of racial issues. I think you will be surprised to learn that Joseph Smith actually fought for equality and offered a safe haven for freed slaves. Black members were given the priesthood, and there was never an official "ban". Media and opponents of the LDS church like to sensationalize things and distort them to progress their agendas. BlackLDS.org is not an official LDS website. It is run by a group of black LDS members whose goal is to correct any lies or misinformation of the LDS Church regarding people of color.
This is positively untrue. You are lying.

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Guess we should all pack up and move to Kolob, cause if Mitt is to be the Saviour of The Nation through Money and Financial control, those of us who are not Mormon are going to hell anyway. That's the rule. The Mormon Rule. Mitt has a good start on the Financial thing.

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This is positively untrue. You are lying.
Guess she forgot that Ham thing and mark of the beast, etc.

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bet Mittens can't wait to give Cheney and Halliburton the contract to privatize FEMA - BOB

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Jeep Mulls Moving Manufacturing to China:
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2012/10/je...
That is another Romney lie. Jeep says no, they are not moving although they are expanding in China. They are creating 1100 new jobs here in MI.
Romney should not have tried to mislead people in Ohio, when auto industry is on upswing after being nearly devastated by recession.
Bad Romney.
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I do. They do not go by the bible nor does the bible mention mormonism it it. They have created a so called "extension" or another book of the bible calling it the book of mormon. Mormonism was created by a horny man wanting to screw more than one woman so he made it up saying GOD told him to do so. Women fell for it.
Sorry, but you are misled. We DO go by the Bible...the King James Version.

Right, the Bible doesn't mention the word "Mormonism." Do you know why? Because the title "Mormonism" was given to us by people who were against the religion. We are members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. We are Christians; we bear His/Christ's name; we came to be just as John Wesley (Methodists), Roger Williams (Baptists), and Martin Luther (Lutherans) all said would happen when Christ would reorganize His church upon the earth. Wesley, Williams, and Luther all said that their religions were not Christ's true church, but when The church did come about, it would have to include a significant event as with the Prophets of old....Moses and the Burning Bush, Enoch and the City of Enoch, Abraham and the Abrahamic Covenant, Noah and the Flood, Just as these Prophets has miraculous events, so did Joseph Smith. He prayed about which church was true, and received a great vision, seeing both the Father and His Son Jesus Christ, and later being led to establish Christ's church.

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"Romney aired lying Jeep ad in Ohio without releasing to media, per standard. But he got busted for it and coverage worse. Boomerang? "

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Romney lies ALL THE TIME. Romney is a con man.

Who votes for con men like this? DOORMATS DO!

Doormats for Romney/Ryan!

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Hey Mormons...are u ok with Romney funneling money thru your church to avoid paying taxes? What does that say about your church?? A quorum full of grifters..

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/29/mitt...

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NoMo wrote:
Hey Mormons...are u ok with Romney funneling money thru your church to avoid paying taxes? What does that say about your church?? A quorum full of grifters..
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/29/mitt...
Mormon Church = religious welfare and Mitt Romney tax dodge.

We, the US taxpayer is paying for those marble bull and the rest of the bs.

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Romney Avoids Taxes via Loophole Cutting Mormon Donations

In this instance, Romney used the tax-exempt status of a charity -- the Mormon Church, according to a 2007 filing -- to defer taxes for more than 15 years. At the same time he is benefitting, the trust will probably leave the church with less than what current law requires, according to tax returns obtained by Bloomberg this month through a Freedom of Information Act request.

In general, charities don’t owe capital gains taxes when they sell assets for a profit. Trusts like Romney’s permit funders to benefit from that tax-free treatment" bloomberg

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