Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

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#18036 Oct 29, 2012
Dana Robertson wrote:
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But I don't see any just or merciful God caring that a person votes or gets involved in trying to make a difference. That would get you disfellowshipped in the Watchtower Society. It would be covered under the rules of love:
Romans 13:10
Love does no harm to its neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.
1 Peter 4:8
Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins.
1 Corinthians 13:13
And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
Proverbs 10:12
Hatred stirs up dissension, but love covers over all wrongs.
If we are serving in government for the betterment of all mankind, that is loving them. That is the will of God.
When Jesus spoke of love, it was not in the context of reforming (bettering) the world with it. If that would have been possible then he would have/or would be planning to do so in the future.

In fact, Jesus was a perfect example for all Christians when he himself did not get involved in politics, although he could have easily, as the people wanted to make him King. And what an amazing king he would have made! Imagine all that love. But that was not God’s will. Would it be logical if he wanted those who imitate Jesus, i.e. his followers (Christians) to get involved in governments? They would not be imitating Jesus if they did.(God’s will for Christians is to preach HIS government (the Good news of the Kingdom), and teach them how to become subjects of that Kingdom).

The role of the Kingdom is not the reformation (betterment) of everyone either, but of only those who want to be reformed by it and eventually to remove those who do not.

The evil in the world will not be conquered by love but by means of God’s Kingdom.
No earthly government will ever conquer evil. No matter how much love there is in the world some people will not change. God knows that. Only Gods’ government will conquer evil, by removing it and those who cause it, as per the scriptures I quoted in the earlier post.

Also, when Peter was talking about love, he was not talking about reforming the world. He was addressing the Christian congregation,(the house of God) reminding them to keep themselves separate from the nations and to stay morally clean. To love each other would keep them from being critical of one another because with love, they would be able to look over and forgive each others “sins” and stay united instead of keeping grudges and causing disunity etc. Cross reference Proverbs 10:12 “Hatred stirs up trouble; love overlooks the wrongs that others do”.(CEV)

So, JWs do not vote as they have already cast their votes for God’s Government, the only answer to mankind's woes.


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#18037 Oct 29, 2012
Mommy2Bof3 wrote:
Please visit www.blacklds.org for accurate information regarding the LDS stance and history of racial issues. I think you will be surprised to learn that Joseph Smith actually fought for equality and offered a safe haven for freed slaves. Black members were given the priesthood, and there was never an official "ban". Media and opponents of the LDS church like to sensationalize things and distort them to progress their agendas. BlackLDS.org is not an official LDS website. It is run by a group of black LDS members whose goal is to correct any lies or misinformation of the LDS Church regarding people of color.
This is positively untrue. You are lying.

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#18038 Oct 29, 2012
Guess we should all pack up and move to Kolob, cause if Mitt is to be the Saviour of The Nation through Money and Financial control, those of us who are not Mormon are going to hell anyway. That's the rule. The Mormon Rule. Mitt has a good start on the Financial thing.

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#18039 Oct 29, 2012
Scary wrote:
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This is positively untrue. You are lying.
Guess she forgot that Ham thing and mark of the beast, etc.

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#18040 Oct 29, 2012
bet Mittens can't wait to give Cheney and Halliburton the contract to privatize FEMA - BOB

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#18041 Oct 29, 2012
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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Jeep Mulls Moving Manufacturing to China:
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2012/10/je...
That is another Romney lie. Jeep says no, they are not moving although they are expanding in China. They are creating 1100 new jobs here in MI.
Romney should not have tried to mislead people in Ohio, when auto industry is on upswing after being nearly devastated by recession.
Bad Romney.
MormonMamma

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#18042 Oct 29, 2012
fedupwiththemess wrote:
I do. They do not go by the bible nor does the bible mention mormonism it it. They have created a so called "extension" or another book of the bible calling it the book of mormon. Mormonism was created by a horny man wanting to screw more than one woman so he made it up saying GOD told him to do so. Women fell for it.
Sorry, but you are misled. We DO go by the Bible...the King James Version.

Right, the Bible doesn't mention the word "Mormonism." Do you know why? Because the title "Mormonism" was given to us by people who were against the religion. We are members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. We are Christians; we bear His/Christ's name; we came to be just as John Wesley (Methodists), Roger Williams (Baptists), and Martin Luther (Lutherans) all said would happen when Christ would reorganize His church upon the earth. Wesley, Williams, and Luther all said that their religions were not Christ's true church, but when The church did come about, it would have to include a significant event as with the Prophets of old....Moses and the Burning Bush, Enoch and the City of Enoch, Abraham and the Abrahamic Covenant, Noah and the Flood, Just as these Prophets has miraculous events, so did Joseph Smith. He prayed about which church was true, and received a great vision, seeing both the Father and His Son Jesus Christ, and later being led to establish Christ's church.

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#18043 Oct 29, 2012
"Romney aired lying Jeep ad in Ohio without releasing to media, per standard. But he got busted for it and coverage worse. Boomerang? "

JA

Romney lies ALL THE TIME. Romney is a con man.

Who votes for con men like this? DOORMATS DO!

Doormats for Romney/Ryan!

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#18047 Oct 29, 2012
Hey Mormons...are u ok with Romney funneling money thru your church to avoid paying taxes? What does that say about your church?? A quorum full of grifters..

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/29/mitt...

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#18048 Oct 29, 2012
NoMo wrote:
Hey Mormons...are u ok with Romney funneling money thru your church to avoid paying taxes? What does that say about your church?? A quorum full of grifters..
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/29/mitt...
Mormon Church = religious welfare and Mitt Romney tax dodge.

We, the US taxpayer is paying for those marble bull and the rest of the bs.

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#18049 Oct 29, 2012
Romney Avoids Taxes via Loophole Cutting Mormon Donations

In this instance, Romney used the tax-exempt status of a charity -- the Mormon Church, according to a 2007 filing -- to defer taxes for more than 15 years. At the same time he is benefitting, the trust will probably leave the church with less than what current law requires, according to tax returns obtained by Bloomberg this month through a Freedom of Information Act request.

In general, charities don’t owe capital gains taxes when they sell assets for a profit. Trusts like Romney’s permit funders to benefit from that tax-free treatment" bloomberg

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#18050 Oct 29, 2012
OregonSUX wrote:
Romney Avoids Taxes via Loophole Cutting Mormon Donations

In this instance, Romney used the tax-exempt status of a charity -- the Mormon Church, according to a 2007 filing -- to defer taxes for more than 15 years. At the same time he is benefitting, the trust will probably leave the church with less than what current law requires, according to tax returns obtained by Bloomberg this month through a Freedom of Information Act request.

In general, charities donÂ’t owe capital gains taxes when they sell assets for a profit. Trusts like RomneyÂ’s permit funders to benefit from that tax-free treatment" bloomberg
Yes. He and the church are running a scam

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#18051 Oct 29, 2012
NoMo wrote:
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Yes. He and the church are running a scam
It IS a scam. The Mormon Church is a political party meddling in and ruining the lives of non Mormons.

There is no reason LDS should have religious welfare.

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#18052 Oct 29, 2012
MormonMitt is against this. He thinks this, along with disaster relief, is IMMORAL because it helps Americans but does not provide enough profit to megacorporations.

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#18053 Oct 29, 2012
MormonMitt is for dog-eat-dog as long as he is the bigger dog killing Americans with glee.

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#18054 Oct 29, 2012
NoMo wrote:
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U prefer coat hangers?
Romney evades taxes thru a trust with the church..
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2012/...
I prefer allowing children to live, and charging those who commit abortion with murder.

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#18055 Oct 30, 2012
Cousin DuPrees Cousin wrote:
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That is another Romney lie. Jeep says no, they are not moving although they are expanding in China. They are creating 1100 new jobs here in MI.
Romney should not have tried to mislead people in Ohio, when auto industry is on upswing after being nearly devastated by recession.
Bad Romney.
Romney's name isn't mentioned anywhere in that story. And I don't trust a thing that comes out of the mouths of the people currently running Jeep. As a Jeep owner who bought a new Wrangler in 2001, and a Jeep Liberty in 2004, I saw how Daimler destroyed the Jeep name in such a short time by putting out crap like the Liberty. It's the worst vehicle I've ever owned. I keep it because it's paid for and I've managed to find better aftermarket parts to replace the shoddy ones installed at the factory.

A Jeep by Fiat? Forget about it. People are hanging on to their Wrangler TJ's like they are gold, and I'm one of them.

No one believed Hummer and Saturn would go by the wayside either, but what happened to them after Obama's auto "bailout"? Saturn folded, and a Chinese firm mulled over buying Hummer, and this was after myriad reports from GM that neither division was going anywhere.

It's all smoke and mirrors. I don't doubt for a moment that we'll see Chinese Jeeps in the U.S. within the decade.

You libs keep saying Romney is the master of sending jobs overseas, yet you think he's full of it because he's reporting what industry insiders already are talking about? He's merely foretelling the future, unless there is a massive shift in government's attitude towards business and steps are taken to bring industry back home.

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#18056 Oct 30, 2012
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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I prefer allowing children to live, and charging those who commit abortion with murder.
We know what kind of monster you are.

Paul SomeGirlsRapeEasy Ryan believes that if his daughter were raped he would be ok with having her executed for murder if she aborted the fetus.

You are all monsters.

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#18057 Oct 30, 2012
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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Romney's name isn't mentioned anywhere in that story. And I don't trust a thing that comes out of the mouths of the people currently running Jeep. As a Jeep owner who bought a new Wrangler in 2001, and a Jeep Liberty in 2004, I saw how Daimler destroyed the Jeep name in such a short time by putting out crap like the Liberty. It's the worst vehicle I've ever owned. I keep it because it's paid for and I've managed to find better aftermarket parts to replace the shoddy ones installed at the factory.
A Jeep by Fiat? Forget about it. People are hanging on to their Wrangler TJ's like they are gold, and I'm one of them.
No one believed Hummer and Saturn would go by the wayside either, but what happened to them after Obama's auto "bailout"? Saturn folded, and a Chinese firm mulled over buying Hummer, and this was after myriad reports from GM that neither division was going anywhere.
It's all smoke and mirrors. I don't doubt for a moment that we'll see Chinese Jeeps in the U.S. within the decade.
You libs keep saying Romney is the master of sending jobs overseas, yet you think he's full of it because he's reporting what industry insiders already are talking about? He's merely foretelling the future, unless there is a massive shift in government's attitude towards business and steps are taken to bring industry back home.
LIAR.

" The Detroit Free Press:“Romney repeats false claim of Jeep outsourcing to China; Chrysler refutes story.” Where it came from:“Romney apparently was referencing conservative bloggers who misrepresented a Bloomberg story from Monday that discussed Chrysler’s decision to consider starting Jeep production in China, the world’s largest new-vehicle market.”

And get this:“In fact, Chrysler is investing $500 million at its Toledo North Assembly Plant and plans to add 1,105 new workers by the third quarter of 2013 to build an all-new SUV that will replace the Jeep Liberty.” NBC

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