Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

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concerned in Egypt

Aberdeen, UK

#24019 Apr 22, 2013
If you are seeking truth about the LDS, the Mormon Sect then keep reading.
If you want access to verifiable footnoted sources that you can verify yourself
Then these sites below are for you as all document their assertions with EVIDENCE Biblical Historical and all are verifiable.
Because the Truth Matters not vial name callers who are solely here posting on this thread with the direct intent to clutter the pages of this thread so real honest debate cannot take place.

http://www.apologeticspress.org/apcontent.asp...
http://www.leaderu.com/offices/michaeldavis/d...
http://www.mrm.org/
http://www.wivesofjosephsmith.org/
http://www.utlm.org/
http://irr.org/
http://carm.org/
http://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/cdm/search/colle...
http://www.spotlightministries.org.uk/index.h...
concerned in Egypt

Aberdeen, UK

#24020 Apr 22, 2013
Mormonism and Christianity

Understanding and Engaging Mormonism
Home » Mormonism and Christianity
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Mormon Belief: The Doctrine of the LDS Church
Start here for an objective, fair-minded overview of what the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saint teaches, based on its current teaching publications.
What the LDS Church Says about Traditional Christianity
Documentation from the LDS Church’s official website that Mormonism is sharply critical of traditional Christian beliefs and churches—even going so far as to describe them as being of the devil.
Bottom-Line Guide to Mormonism
The articles listed here provide short, basic introductions to a variety of topics of major importance in Mormonism.

http://mit.irr.org/category/mormonism-and-chr...
concerned in Egypt

Aberdeen, UK

#24021 Apr 22, 2013
Considering Joining the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormon Church)?
Copyright © 2009 Institute for Religious Research
Mormons are known as sincere, spiritually devoted people, good neighbors, and responsible co-workers. They have qualities we admire when it comes to moral living and family values. Yet their history is shrouded in controversy and their beliefs often not accepted as a Christian. What brings the Mormon Church under such scrutiny?

http://mit.irr.org/considering-joining-church...
concerned in Egypt

Aberdeen, UK

#24022 Apr 22, 2013
1. Is there more than one true God?

The Bible teaches and orthodox Christians through the ages have always believed that only one true and living God created and rules all things and that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, though personally distinct, are one God, the Lord Jehovah (Genesis 1:1-31; Deuteronomy 6:4; Isaiah 43:10-11; 44:6-8, 24; Matthew 28:19-20; John 1:1; 10:30; 20:28; Acts 5:3-4; 1 Corinthians 8:4-6; 2 Corinthians 3:17-18; 13:14).

By contrast, Mormonism teaches that many Gods made the world (Book of Abraham 4:1-31) and that the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are three separate Gods (Teachings of Presidents of the Church: Joseph Smith [2007], 41-42). It also teaches that the Father has a wife, our heavenly mother, and that we are “literally” the offspring of divine parents (Ensign, Jan. 1989).

2. Was God the Father once a man like us?

The Bible teaches and orthodox Christians through the ages have always believed that God is Spirit (John 4:20-24; 1 Timothy 6:15, 16) and in His divine nature is not a man (Numbers 23:19; Hosea 11:9; Romans 1:22-23), and that He has always (eternally) existed as the all-powerful God (Psalm 90:2; 102:12, 25-27; Isaiah 40:28; 43:10; 1 Timothy 1:17).

By contrast, the LDS Church teaches that God the Father was once a man like us who progressed to become a God and has a body of flesh and bone (Doctrine and Covenants 130:22). It affirms Joseph Smith’s teaching that God is “an exalted being” who “was once a man like us,” and Lorenzo Snow’s statement,“As man is, God once was; as God is, man may be”(Gospel Principles [2009], 275, 279; Presidents of the Church Student Manual [2003], 89; Teachings of Presidents of the Church: George Albert Smith [2011], 71).

http://mit.irr.org/mormonism-christian-2
concerned in Egypt

Aberdeen, UK

#24023 Apr 22, 2013
I am concerned

I wish all have truth and embrace the truth.

For this Reason I post from Anti-Mormon sites, I post verifiable and update posts.

To Be ANTI-mormon is to be PRO-TRUTH
To be Mormon is to be Anti-Christ.

So my choice is to be Anti-Mormon and Pro Christ

To Be PRO-Truth means one is Anti-mormon
To Be PRO-Truth means one is Anti-Racist
To Be PRO-Truth means one is Anti-Devil

Because Truth Matters.

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#24024 Apr 23, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
The fact that you and Carol don't even get it makes my point you are both mentally ill.
Have you gotten my point yet, or do you want me to use smaller words?
Me and Mouse don't get a lot of your points I'll admit. Neither do a lot of other people according to their comments about your points.
Maybe if you tried to use a bit more honesty and less deceit and lies we would all understand you a lot better.
Maybe if you quit attacking people's profiles and information to be as vicious mouthed as you can be about the information, maybe if you stopped doing that it would help also.
You have alienated yourself from many because of how you respond and attack as the great, good loving Christian you claim to be, just saying :)

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#24025 Apr 23, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
Men evolving into God's by following rules makes so much more sense. God caring where Smith sticks his penis is another one. LOL!!!!
There you go making sexual response again. You really need to leave that filthy speech alone that your loving brother Lucifer loves to hear you talk about as much as you will is his hope. He knows better than anyone that you really believe Jesus and God inspire you to speak as sexually explicit as you can in filthy dark tones. So you go ahead and continue to believe that your god wants you to talk in dark rude filthy tones about sex because your god loves it when you do.

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#24026 Apr 23, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, a racists, incesterous, horny God is so much better! LOL!!!
Oh yes, there's some more of that good godly inspired Christian speech your dark soul is filled with. Nice of you to keep proving what your real thoughts are about.

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#24027 Apr 23, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
Anybody with a second grade edumacation would understand the reason of those verses, that is because there is only one real God. The rest were man made. Never met anyone who could intentionally screw up scripture like you do.
Good work! LOL!!!
No no. You intentionally twisted for your own sick reasoning what your son didn't state to say that's what he meant.
He said plainly he didn't believe in the existence of any other gods. That is what he stated that you lied in a twist to claim he didn't say that. Why do you have to lie so much?
He said..."concerned in Egypt" wrote...
I deny that there are many many gods (Mormon Doctrine, by Bruce McConkie, p. 163).
He denied the existence of many, many gods. Concerned in Egypt" wrote...I deny that there are many many gods. He didn't deny their were many many Gods but there was only one true God. That was your twisted lie of what he didn't say. You lied to defend him. To defend him you willing lied thinking that was the good loving Christian thing to do, to lie. Lying for Jesus is your new creed.
God in the OT admitted the existence of many gods. He admitted they existed. He admitted they existed and his children worshipped them and not him and it angered him. He admitted and stated that he didn't want his children to serve through worship these other gods God stated did in fact exist. God said it.
Egypt denied the gods God said existed existed. God said the gods did in fact exist and egypt called God a liar by saying he denied they existed.

From the Bible which you deny...
Exodus 12:12
And against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment.
Exodus 15:11
Who is like unto thee, O LORD, among the gods?
Exodus 18:11
Now I know that the LORD is greater than all gods.
Exodus 20:3, 5
Thou shalt have no other gods before me.... Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them.
Exodus 22:20-28
He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed.(v.20)
Thou shalt not revile the gods.(v.28)
Exodus 23:13-32
Make no mention of the name of other gods, neither let it be heard out of thy mouth.(v.13)

Don't you ever tire of your twisted pathetic lies?

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#24028 Apr 23, 2013
concerned in Egypt wrote:
I am concerned (not really but who cares.)
I wish all have truth and embrace the truth as I believe what truth is and what truth should be.
For this Reason I post from Anti-Bible sites, I post verifiable and update posts.
To Be ANTI-modern Christian is to be PRO-TRUTH
To be Christian is to be Anti-concerned in egypt.
So my choice is to be Anti-modern Christian and Pro concerned in egypt.
To Be PRO-Truth means one is Anti-modern Christian
To Be PRO-Truth means one is Anti-concerned in egypt
To Be PRO-Truth means one is just wasting their time listening to me :) the Devil in disguise :)
Because Truth to me really doesn't matter as much as my irrational opinions matter and you should take them to heart as the truth...lol...
Nice and truthful :)

sportxmouse

“Duty is a Privilege!”

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#24029 Apr 23, 2013
Matthew 12:49-50

49 And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my amother and my brethren!

50 For whosoever shall do the awill of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my bbrother, and sister, and mother.
concerned in Egypt

Aberdeen, UK

#24031 Apr 23, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>
Nice and truthful :)
If you are seeking truth about the LDS, the Mormon Sect then keep reading.
If you want access to verifiable footnoted sources that you can verify yourself
Then these sites below are for you as all document their assertions with EVIDENCE Biblical Historical and all are verifiable.
Because the Truth Matters not vial name callers who are solely here posting on this thread with the direct intent to clutter the pages of this thread so real honest debate cannot take place.

http://www.apologeticspress.org/apcontent.asp ...
http://www.leaderu.com/offices/michaeldavis/d ...
http://www.mrm.org/
http://www.wivesofjosephsmith.org/
http://www.utlm.org/
http://irr.org/
http://carm.org/
http://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/cdm/search/colle ...
http://www.spotlightministries.org.uk/index.h ...
concerned in Egypt

Aberdeen, UK

#24032 Apr 23, 2013
sportxmouse wrote:
Matthew 12:49-50
49 And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my amother and my brethren!
50 For whosoever shall do the awill of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my bbrother, and sister, and mother.
Is Mormonism Christian?
A Comparison of Mormonism and Historic Christianity
Copyright © 2012 Institute for Religious Research

http://mit.irr.org/mormonism-christian-2

3. Are Jesus, Satan, and all mankind spirit brothers?

The Bible teaches and orthodox Christians through the ages have always believed that Jesus is the unique Son of God, the only human being who came down from heaven to become a man (John 3:31; 13:3; 16:28; 17:5). As God, Jesus Christ made everything, including all spiritual powers such as the angels as well as Satan, who rebelled against Him (Psalm 148:2-5; John 1:3; Colossians 1:16). Human beings start to exist at the beginning of their physical lives (Genesis 1:26-27; 2:7; Job 38:4-7).

By contrast, the LDS Church teaches that Jesus Christ, humans, angels, and fallen spirits including Satan are all eternal beings that were never created and that are all spirit brothers and sisters. In particular, Christ and Lucifer (Satan) were two spirit brothers; Christ supported Heavenly Father’s plan while Lucifer did not (Doctrine and Covenants 93:21-33; Gospel Principles [2009], 9-10; Teachings of Presidents of the Church: Joseph F. Smith [1998], 355; “I Have a Question,” Ensign, June 1986).

4. Was Jesus literally the physical offspring of Mary and God the Father?

The Bible teaches and orthodox Christians through the ages have always believed that the eternal Son of God, Jesus Christ, became a man by being conceived in the womb of the virgin Mary by the supernatural creative agency of the Holy Spirit (Matthew 1:18-23; Luke 1:34-35).

By contrast, the LDS Church teaches that Jesus Christ is “the Only Begotten Son of the Father in the flesh,” meaning that He was the literal “offspring” of the Father and Mary,“sired” by Heavenly Father as his only son in the flesh, so that he had two literal, physical parents—his immortal Father and his mortal mother Mary. The LDS Church denies that Jesus was “begotten” by the Holy Ghost, since it understands “begotten” literally to mean sired by a physical father (Ensign, April 1997; Ezra Taft Benson, in Ensign, Dec. 2001; Gospel Principles [2009], 53; Ensign, Dec. 2010, 8).
concerned in Egypt

Aberdeen, UK

#24033 Apr 23, 2013
To all following this thread

I was just wondering are we to believe that the LDS in this thread believe that when they watch Golf on TV or hear about Golf on TV and and the commentator says he sliced the golf ball are we to believe LDS in this thread actually believe the Golfer pulled out a sharp tool and cut in half the ball like when someone slices a Turkey????

I was wondering when the Weatherman says it rained Cats and Dogs yesterday are we to believe the LDS really believe there are dead dogs and cats decomposing on the streets as they just fell to their deaths from Clouds 30000 feet in the Air???

I was wondering when God Says "And against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment" do you really believe that the LDS believe God is going to execute judgement on real creatures that have bodies of Men and a head of a Falcon whose name is Hort, or with a cat head named bastet or a jackals head named Anubus???

No only an insane person would believe the above.

So it begs the Question are the LDS in this thread really that dumb and or insane or is their i real motive to try and sabotage this thread by filling it with nonsense.

Either way they are Evil because they try to suppress the Truth.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#24034 Apr 23, 2013
concerned in Egypt wrote:
To all following this thread
I was just wondering are we to believe that the LDS in this thread believe that when they watch Golf on TV or hear about Golf on TV and and the commentator says he sliced the golf ball are we to believe LDS in this thread actually believe the Golfer pulled out a sharp tool and cut in half the ball like when someone slices a Turkey????
I was wondering when the Weatherman says it rained Cats and Dogs yesterday are we to believe the LDS really believe there are dead dogs and cats decomposing on the streets as they just fell to their deaths from Clouds 30000 feet in the Air???
I was wondering when God Says "And against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment" do you really believe that the LDS believe God is going to execute judgement on real creatures that have bodies of Men and a head of a Falcon whose name is Hort, or with a cat head named bastet or a jackals head named Anubus???
No only an insane person would believe the above.
So it begs the Question are the LDS in this thread really that dumb and or insane or is their i real motive to try and sabotage this thread by filling it with nonsense.
Either way they are Evil because they try to suppress the Truth.
While there are honest Mormons that have come here with honest answers, No Surprise and Carol(Mouse), clearly are trying to muddy the waters with nonsense.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#24035 Apr 23, 2013
Now, to address some more of No Surprises ignorance:
No Surprise wrote:
I deny that we were all born in the pre-existence (Journal of Discourses, vol. 4, p. 218; Articles of Faith, p. 174).
From the Bible you deny...
Other Translations of Jeremiah 1:5
Before I formed thee in the bellie, I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the wombe, I sanctified thee, and I ordeined thee a Prophet vnto the nations.
- King James Version (1611)- Compare to scan of original Jeremiah chapter 1
"Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, And before you were born I consecrated you; I have appointed you a prophet to the nations."
- New American Standard Version (1995)
Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee, and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee; I have appointed thee a prophet unto the nations.
- American Standard Version (1901)
Before you were formed in the body of your mother I had knowledge of you, and before your birth I made you holy; I have given you the work of being a prophet to the nations.
- Basic English Bible
..
God clearly lives through time the way we live through 3 dimensions. That is how he can see how it all ends so clearly. The fact he saw the life of Jeremiah and how it comes out doesn't mean he pre-existed.
I deny that Satan is my spirit brother (Mormon Doctrine, p. 163).
Than you deny the Bible and that God created all things, living and nonliving. You call God a liar because he created EVERYTHING including satan. Satan is a spirit. You are a spirit. God is the Father of you and Satan. You accepted God and Satan rejected God. But Satan is your spiritual brother nonetheless.
Genesis 1:1:“In the beginning God (Hebrew,“Elohiym” pleural, literally “Gods”) created the Heavens and the Earth.”
John 1:1-4:“In the beginning was the Word (Jesus Christ), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men.”
..
Why are you comparing creation to relation? Are the rocks our brothers and sisters also? Again, how can someone so intentionally get it so wrong? Why isn't there a verse you won't mistranslate to save the foul and false teachings of Mormonism?
I deny that I have the potential of becoming a god (Articles of Faith, p. 424).
You deny the Bible and God...
Psalm 82:6 I said,“You are gods, sons of the Most High, all of you;
John 10:34 Jesus answered them,“Is it not written in your Law, I said, you are gods’?
..
I deny that good works are necessary for salvation (Articles of Faith, p. 81, 92).
You deny the Bible and God..
John 14:12
New International Version (©2011)
Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.
New Living Translation (©2007)
"I tell you the truth, anyone who believes in me will do the same works I have done, and even greater works, because I am going to be with the Father.
..
So the Mormon God was lying when he said:

Isaiah 43:10
“You are My witnesses,” declares the Lord,“And My servant whom I have chosen, So that you may know and believe Me And understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, And there will be none after Me.

Yes, Mormonism is true, as long as you ignore all verses that prove it wrong.

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#24036 Apr 23, 2013
From "concerned in Egypt"...
If you are seeking truth about Christianity as I and Dana represent it with lies and filthy dark ways of speaking with sexually explicit statements we believe God approves of us saying, then keep reading.
If you want access to verifiable footnoted sources that you can verify yourself about Lies of Modern day Christianity.
Then these sites below are for you as all document their assertions even with EVIDENCE Biblical Historical and all are verifiable.
Because the Truth Matters not as far as Dana and I am concerned. Our definition of truth is what matters.
As vial name callers solely here posting on this thread with the direct intent to clutter the pages of this thread so real honest debate cannot take place. Just read our past posts if you doubt that we call vile names and say some really dark filthy godless thoughts to others. It's down for one and all to read what we have stated to hopefully harm and injure other peoples minds and emotions.

http://trevorburrus.newsvine.com/_news/2008/0...

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index...

http://countermissionary.org/articles/xwrong....

http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com/showthread.ph...

http://www.youtube.com/playlist...

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#24037 Apr 23, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
<quoted text>
While there are honest Mormons that have come here with honest answers, No Surprise and Carol(Mouse), clearly are trying to muddy the waters with nonsense.
lol...you're an example of someone that knows honesty? Pleaseee...
You claimed nothing in the BOM had been found to be true of being here in America. Your bad. Even if you dodge the fact that mayans and Aztecs carved likenesses of modern elephant heads on their temples.
You claim Smith had sex with his wives. And all the time because you say he's a sexual pervert. That he did his wives everyday for three solid years, young and old cause he thought with his dipstick, not his mind. Your bad. 33 plus wives having all that sex for three solid years and not a single child you can produce came to be. That really makes for a lot of proof according to you that all the rumours you claim are like God's own very truth don't seem to exist for you. Your bad again.
You claimed the court testimonies of two women were facts and solid proof beyond a doubt that Smith had sex with his wives because YOU CLAIMED they were EYE WITNESSES. Your bad. You didn't even read their court recorded transcripts. You didn't know one of your star witnesses admitted lying in court FOUR TIMES concerning Smith having sex. Your star witness YOU CLAIMED told the truth and nothing but the truth actually COMMITTED PERJURY IN COURT. YOUR BAD. Your second star witness (you claimed saw Smith have sex) having seen what happened to the other wife under a lawyer's scrutiny did what? SHE LITERALLY TOOK THE FIFTH AND REFUSED TO ANSWER QUESTIONS concerning her earlier allegations Smith had sex. She shut down and refused to answer questions. your bad.
I could go on and bring up other things YOU CLAIMED were honest truth that wasn't. I can show where you outright lied just to have something negative to say about Mormons.
And you want to accuse others of muddying the waters? lol...quite funny and quite sad....

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#24038 Apr 23, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
God clearly lives through time the way we live through 3 dimensions. That is how he can see how it all ends so clearly. The fact he saw the life of Jeremiah and how it comes out doesn't mean he pre-existed.
Maybe you should read these translations again. You're addressing your opinion. You're not addressing what the writers said concerning this event which strongly implies a spiritual preexistence egypt ignorantly denies.
Other Translations of Jeremiah 1:5
Before I formed thee in the bellie, I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the wombe, I sanctified thee, and I ordeined thee a Prophet vnto the nations.
- King James Version (1611)- Compare to scan of original Jeremiah chapter 1
"Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, And before you were born I consecrated you; I have appointed you a prophet to the nations."
- New American Standard Version (1995)
Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee, and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee; I have appointed thee a prophet unto the nations.
- American Standard Version (1901)
Before you were formed in the body of your mother I had knowledge of you, and before your birth I made you holy; I have given you the work of being a prophet to the nations.
- Basic English Bible

God stated, not I or you or egypt that prior to Jeremiah being a living soul that God said he sanctified thee(Jeremiah); I have appointed thee (Jeremiah)a prophet before Jeremiah was born from the womb and before he was even concepted by his physical mother and father.
God stated he knew Jeremiah, he sanctified Jeremiah and appointed Jeremiah a prophet before he was in his mom's belly.
How you wish to twist this is that God knew a thought. He gave the thought a name and called the thought Jeremiah. God than in self talk to a thought said he was sanctifying the thought and appointing the thought to be a prophet and did all this before the thought became what we call 'reality'.
Those that believe in just what the Bible teaches, like you and egypt, you are naturally forbidden by the Bible to believe in a pre existence because the Bible doesn't explicitly state there was one.
So your disbelief is understood as a book tells you what not to believe in.
By the way, this three dimension thing, you're a liar by your own admittance AGAIN. The Bible speaks not a single solitary thing about three dimensions. So as you accuse others, you're a liar, deceived, brainwashed and filled with false evil thoughts for believing what the Bible clearly doesn't teach...three dimensions...lol...clearly self deluded...you better stick to the Bible dude.

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#24039 Apr 23, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
Why are you comparing creation to relation? Are the rocks our brothers and sisters also?
And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out.

John 1:3 - Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.(NIV)

Colossians 1:16-17 - For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible(INVISIBLE), whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.(NIV)

Nehemiah 9:6 - You alone are the LORD. You made the heavens, even the highest heavens(EVEN THE HIGHEST HEAVENS), and all their starry host(AND ALL THEIR STARRY HOST), the earth and all that is on it, the seas and all that is in them. You give life to everything, and the multitudes of heaven worship you(AND THE MULTITUDES OF HEAVEN WORSHIP YOU).(NIV)

Why don't you use your Bible and define the differences between rocks that could cry and an earth that would rent itself in sorrow and anguish etc...why don't you form an opinion to explain the following statements from God hmm?

Psalm 96:10-13 ...Let the heavens rejoice, let the earth be glad; let the sea resound, and all that is in it; let the fields be jubilant, and everything in them. Then all the trees of the forest will sing for joy; they will sing before the LORD, for he comes, he comes to judge the earth. He will judge the world in righteousness ....(note the above is all about how the earth and living things(non-humans) will respond to God as humans can) and then he makes a statement last about humans) and the peoples in his truth.(NIV)

Isaiah 43:20-21 - The wild animals honor me, the jackals and the owls, because I provide water in the desert and streams in the wasteland,(do note the foregoing speaks of how animals, not humans will react to God)to give drink to my people, my chosen, the people I formed for myself that they may proclaim my praise.(NIV)

And if you doubt the existence of intelligent beasts, why don't you read again about the beasts that guard the ark of the covenant. You're over your head once more because you haven't read enough.

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