Philippines cyber law slammed

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Concerned_

France

#25 Oct 8, 2012
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
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Derek,
Political dynasty is not only a Philippine problem for the matter is true all over the world!!! Under Catholic and Protestant colonial paradigms, you can be powerful if you brush elbows with the elite!!!
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
The Church of Christ officials are the ones brushing elbows with government officials to make them pay for the block votes the INC offers to candidates of any party. The Church of Christ membership has grown big enough to command a bigger paycheck, and therefore any politician can utilize their block votes to win in the elections.

It means more money to build INC Churches.
dog spelled backwards

Heinsberg, Germany

#26 Oct 9, 2012
Concerned_ wrote:
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The Church of Christ officials are the ones brushing elbows with government officials to make them pay for the block votes the INC offers to candidates of any party. The Church of Christ membership has grown big enough to command a bigger paycheck, and therefore any politician can utilize their block votes to win in the elections.
It means more money to build INC Churches.
Totally right.
Dirt refuses to mingle with that cult. So only evil will be left.
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#27 Oct 14, 2012
Concerned_ wrote:
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The Church of Christ officials are the ones brushing elbows with government officials to make them pay for the block votes the INC offers to candidates of any party. The Church of Christ membership has grown big enough to command a bigger paycheck, and therefore any politician can utilize their block votes to win in the elections.
It means more money to build INC Churches.
Concerned,

Why??? Do you have pictures of them dining with the elite of the Philippine government??? All you can see are priests and Protestant ministers!!! Not our Iglesia ni Cristo leaders:

"What Felix Manalo and his Iglesia have done demonstrate all over again that Christianity, when practiced in earnest, always succeeds, not only in spiritual but even in material terms."

Reference: Nick Joaquin, National Artist of the Philippines for Literature (As published in his book, Ronnie Poe and other Silhouettes,(c) 1977.

We do not need to brush elbows with the powers that be in order to succeed!!! We succeed because our God can be understood and not like the Holy Trinity!!! Jesuit priest C.F. Blount states in his book The Blessed Trinity:

"the dogma of the Blessed Trinity is a mystery in the fullest sense" .... "it cannot be proved by reason,... nay, it cannot be even be proved to be possible"

Reference:[Rev. C.F. Blount, S.J., The Blessed Trinity (London: Catholic Truth Society), p.2.]

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#28 Oct 14, 2012
dog spelled backwards wrote:
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Totally right.
Dirt refuses to mingle with that cult. So only evil will be left.
Dog Behavior,

The dirt is the vomit which the dog eats!!! The dog is the personification of the false religions of Roman Catholicism and Protestnatism which refuse the truth upon hearing it!!! They only want to listen to what their itching ears want to listen!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
dog spelled backwards

Erkelenz, Germany

#32 Oct 14, 2012
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
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Dog Behavior,
The dirt is the vomit which the dog eats!!! The dog is the personification of the false religions of Roman Catholicism and Protestnatism which refuse the truth upon hearing it!!! They only want to listen to what their itching ears want to listen!!!
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
Hatemonger and Supporter of a Rapist,

even dirt refuses to mingle with your cult. So, only evil will be left.
You belong to be locked up in the secure unit of a mental institution. Your cult subverts the morality of the free democratic order of a civilized society.
Well, in a civilized society. And since the Philippines is anything bbut a civilized society, there is nothing there you could erode.
Different in countries with more educated people and a more human political system. Here you would find yourself under surveillance, in the same line as certain fundamentalistic groups.
Something like your cult has only a chance in places where people are very corrupt.
In a single word: evil

Like you are intimidating and patronizing your INC-subjects, you certainly would like to expand this tool as far as possible to finally stript people from personal rights.
What are you afraid of? No lies can shock the truth! In the long run the truth will always win.
I tell you what you are afraid of: you are afraid of your biggest enemy - the truth!
Throughout your statements here you keep on disqualifying yourself permanently by contradicting yourself or slipping on your own tongue. There is more needed than just continual citations which are (mis)used for your own interpretations, helplessly throwing back arguments like a child who gripped into something unpleasant and now trying to shake it off.

Live your mistake of your cult, but stop insulting other peopleīs beliefs. You just proove that the fundament of your cult cannot stand on its own feet. It seems that without the Roman Catholics and Protestants your cult is nothing.
You are living close to the equator. Not everybody can stand that heat. Many suffer from brain-evaporation. You are definetely one of them and together with your self-destructive anger you are about to speed up that process.
You are no different than other false "religions". You are no better than those you pretend to despise: your well is hatred and exclusion, enhancement and conviction.
Now, since you shaped your god after yourself, he has no other chance to be a god with the above listed features.

Make a turn and allow the good. This is the condition for the good!
Good cannot grow from evil. Love cannot grow from hatred.
And what is the use of permanently pointing at the skeletons in each otherīs closets? We had that. What you are doing is nothing new.
ELIAS IBARRA

Tamuning, Guam

#33 Oct 17, 2012
dog spelled backwards wrote:
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Hatemonger and Supporter of a Rapist,
even dirt refuses to mingle with your cult. So, only evil will be left.
You belong to be locked up in the secure unit of a mental institution. Your cult subverts the morality of the free democratic order of a civilized society.
Well, in a civilized society. And since the Philippines is anything bbut a civilized society, there is nothing there you could erode.
Different in countries with more educated people and a more human political system. Here you would find yourself under surveillance, in the same line as certain fundamentalistic groups.
Dog Behavior,

The Iglesia ni Cristo is different from the dirts!!! We are the light of the world and the salt of the earth!!! These true qualities of ours are being protrayed by others in the following manner:

"Why is it that everytime we get to talking about a strong and well-managed, disciplined and powerful church, we invariably point to the Iglesia Ni Cristo?

"We would even heave a sigh and wonder what makes the INC so influential. What makes its members so committed and disciplined that they attend services twice a week without fail?"

Reference:

[Bodegon, Joel L. The Isaiah Paradigm: Recapturing the Role of the Laity, p. 116]

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
dog spelled backwards

Erkelenz, Germany

#34 Oct 17, 2012
ELIAS IBARRA wrote:
<quoted text>
Dog Behavior,
The Iglesia ni Cristo is different from the dirts!!! We are the light of the world and the salt of the earth!!! These true qualities of ours are being protrayed by others in the following manner:
"Why is it that everytime we get to talking about a strong and well-managed, disciplined and powerful church, we invariably point to the Iglesia Ni Cristo?
"We would even heave a sigh and wonder what makes the INC so influential. What makes its members so committed and disciplined that they attend services twice a week without fail?"
Reference:
[Bodegon, Joel L. The Isaiah Paradigm: Recapturing the Role of the Laity, p. 116]
Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
Hatemonger,

did you realise that you keep on repeating yourself and that you keep on posting the same arguments over and over, again and again for each and every purpose? It seems that there are not many positive writings about your cult you can quote from. Besides they do lose any of their strength when being overused.
So I will have to tell you my same arguments as well: dreaming is not prohibited. But dreams have nothing to do with reality. Dreams are fiction. Unreal. Not fact. Dreams are somehow an escape from the truth. They are made up. Maybe they will comfort you for a while, but they leave you even colder as before.

Now, concerning your words that "you are the light of the world and the salt of the earth" we understand what you are talking about when we think of the dried up and sunburnt salt deserts.
ELIAS IBARRA

Barrigada, Guam

#35 Oct 23, 2012
dog spelled backwards wrote:
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Hatemonger,
did you realise that you keep on repeating yourself and that you keep on posting the same arguments over and over, again and again for each and every purpose? It seems that there are not many positive writings about your cult you can quote from. Besides they do lose any of their strength when being overused.
So I will have to tell you my same arguments as well: dreaming is not prohibited. But dreams have nothing to do with reality. Dreams are fiction. Unreal. Not fact. Dreams are somehow an escape from the truth. They are made up. Maybe they will comfort you for a while, but they leave you even colder as before.
Now, concerning your words that "you are the light of the world and the salt of the earth" we understand what you are talking about when we think of the dried up and sunburnt salt deserts.
Dog Behavior,

Catholics and Protestant leaders talk a lot and kept dreaming but the Church Administration of the Iglesia ni Cristo showed his dynamism and that of the true Church by:

"Under Brother Erano's dynamic stewardship, a fresh era dawned in the administration of the Church, not in terms of new doctrines or new teachings but in expansion---in the ever-incrasing number of brethren being added to the Church, in the numerous magnificent house[s] of worship being constructed, and above all, in its overseas expansion."

Reference:(Editorial,"Igl esia Ni Cristo's Executive Minister Erano G. Manalo 75th birth anniversary," Manila Bulletin, January 2, 2000, p. 11)

Gossipmongerings made by Catholic priests and Protestant ministers produce nothing but the selling of their structures with empty pews to the Iglesia ni Cristo!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Barrigada, Guam

#36 Oct 25, 2012
[QUOTE who="dog spelled backwardsWhat are you afraid of? No lies can shock the truth! In the long run the truth will always win.
I tell you what you are afraid of: you are afraid of your biggest enemy - the truth!
[/QUOTE]

Dog Behavior,

Below is one of the truths that Roman Catholic and Protestant authorities do not like!!! As to how the doctrine that the Holy Spirit is God came about, Catholic author, the Rev. Clement H. Crock, provides this information:

"In 381, at the Council of Constantinople, it was defined that it is an article of faith that the Holy Ghost is God."

Reference:(Crock, Clement H. Discourses on the Apostles' Creed, p. 206. Nihil Obstat: Arthur J. Scanlan, STD. Imprimatur: Patrick Cardinal Hayes. New York: John F.

Roman Catholic and Protestant teachings are but man-made concoctions!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam
ELIAS IBARRA

Barrigada, Guam

#38 Oct 28, 2012
With the possible adoption of the anti-Cyber Crime Law after some revisions, more and more Roman Catholic and Protestant gossipmongers will be committed to jail!!! This is good for the Philippines!!!

Real Elias Ibarra
Guam

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