Poll: Many say let illegal immigrants...

Poll: Many say let illegal immigrants stay

There are 12 comments on the Lake Wales News story from Jan 23, 2013, titled Poll: Many say let illegal immigrants stay. In it, Lake Wales News reports that:

More than 6 in 10 Americans now favor allowing illegal immigrants to eventually become U.S. citizens, a major increase in support driven by a turnaround in Republicans' opinions after the 2012 elections.

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Since: Apr 08

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#1 Jan 23, 2013
Today's poll on MSN:

Do you feel illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay in the US?


19 % Yes; they deserve the opportunity.
59,841 votes

77 % No; they are here by illegal means.
248,359 votes

4 % I'm not sure.
13,944 votes
Real American

Mckinney, TX

#2 Jan 23, 2013
Democrats don't seriously want to solve the immigration issue, they need to keep as many people in the lower class to ensure their status as the peoples party. The more people on welfare or looking to get welfare the better for them.
Republicans are for the most part racist and extreme.
Both get their station on the backs of the poor, when the people start to vote for each station based on that candidates character and not party politics things might change

Don't count on it
Brad

Manchester, CT

#3 Jan 23, 2013
The poll was conducted in LA,what do you think the results will be?

Since: May 11

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#4 Jan 23, 2013
Bama Yankee wrote:
Today's poll on MSN:
Do you feel illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay in the US?
19 % Yes; they deserve the opportunity.
59,841 votes
77 % No; they are here by illegal means.
248,359 votes
4 % I'm not sure.
13,944 votes
The AP poll was a scientific poll (based on mathematical/statistical principles).

The MSN poll was not scientific.

I doubt you know the difference, and probably wouldn't be able to understand if I explained it to you.

So I'll try something you may be able to comprehend: Ron Paul won just about every unscientific Presidential poll in both the 2008 and 2012 election cycles. He usually won by huge margins. I know, I voted for him in hundreds of online unscientific polls.

If unscientific polls were accurate, Ron Paul would be President.

You may have noticed that he is not President.

Scientific polls are pretty accurate if done right. Unscientific polls can come up with all kinds of crazy results.

Since: May 11

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#5 Jan 23, 2013
Brad wrote:
The poll was conducted in LA,what do you think the results will be?
Umm, no. It was a nationwide poll.

From the article:

"The Associated Press-GfK Poll was conducted Jan. 10-14, 2013, by GfK Roper Public Affairs and Corporate Communications. It involved landline and cellphone interviews with 1,004 adults nationwide.It involved landline and cellphone interviews with 1,004 adults nationwide."
Teresa

Beaverton, OR

#7 Jan 23, 2013
This poll is pure propaganda. What nationality are these pollsters? What is their legal status? I recently was asked to participate in a similar poll and the results were over 80% of the pollsters DID NOT favor a path to citizenship. This article is bogus.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#9 Jan 23, 2013
Illegals have no right at all to stay here and burden our system.

Since: Apr 08

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#10 Jan 23, 2013
libertarian4321 wrote:
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The AP poll was a scientific poll (based on mathematical/statistical principles).
The MSN poll was not scientific.
I doubt you know the difference, and probably wouldn't be able to understand if I explained it to you.
So I'll try something you may be able to comprehend: Ron Paul won just about every unscientific Presidential poll in both the 2008 and 2012 election cycles. He usually won by huge margins. I know, I voted for him in hundreds of online unscientific polls.
If unscientific polls were accurate, Ron Paul would be President.
You may have noticed that he is not President.
Scientific polls are pretty accurate if done right. Unscientific polls can come up with all kinds of crazy results.
Well, there you have it.

You've convinced me that telephone interviews with 1024 people is much more accurate than polling a group of 322,000 on one question... should illegals be allowed to stay.

Since: May 11

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#11 Jan 24, 2013
Bama Yankee wrote:
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Well, there you have it.
You've convinced me that telephone interviews with 1024 people is much more accurate than polling a group of 322,000 on one question... should illegals be allowed to stay.
Actually, a scientific poll IS more accurate, regardless of the relative sample sizes.

I'm not a statistician, but I have two engineering degrees and an MBA- I've take enough statistics courses that I can explain the basics to you, if you are willing to learn.

I would try to explain it in the simplest terms possible so that you could understand. I will explain why Ron Paul isn't President, despite winning every online UNSCIENTIFIC poll.

So, are you willing to listen, or do you just want to bluster?
Independent

Winchester, IN

#12 Jan 24, 2013
libertarian4321 wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, a scientific poll IS more accurate, regardless of the relative sample sizes.
I'm not a statistician, but I have two engineering degrees and an MBA- I've take enough statistics courses that I can explain the basics to you, if you are willing to learn.
I would try to explain it in the simplest terms possible so that you could understand. I will explain why Ron Paul isn't President, despite winning every online UNSCIENTIFIC poll.
So, are you willing to listen, or do you just want to bluster?
Tell them about the illegals you hire, you remember on another site you had them building a fence for you, I know they worked for a contractor you hired and that wasn't your concern.
Independent

Winchester, IN

#13 Jan 24, 2013
Bama Yankee wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, there you have it.
You've convinced me that telephone interviews with 1024 people is much more accurate than polling a group of 322,000 on one question... should illegals be allowed to stay.
Don't worry about him, he has to to do his slave labor. He has said they work from morning to dark with only 15 min for lunch, legal workers take to many breaks.

Since: May 11

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#14 Jan 24, 2013
Independent wrote:
<quoted text>Tell them about the illegals you hire, you remember on another site you had them building a fence for you, I know they worked for a contractor you hired and that wasn't your concern.
See, you can learn. It just takes a while.

The second part of your post was correct. I did NOT hire "illegal immigrants"- I hired an American contractor who then staffed his crew with workers who may or may not have been illegal (how would I know?).

BTW, the fence and gate look great. Very well constructed. Those workers the CONTRACTOR HIRED, whatever their background, did great work.

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