From JFK to Sept. 11, conspiracy theo...

From JFK to Sept. 11, conspiracy theories thrive

There are 56 comments on the Athens Banner-Herald story from Aug 10, 2011, titled From JFK to Sept. 11, conspiracy theories thrive. In it, Athens Banner-Herald reports that:

In Dealey Plaza, with the white "X" painted on the spot where President Kennedy was assassinated, ask anyone about the grassy knoll and the second gunman.

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Curtis Lowe

United States

#1 Aug 10, 2011
Obama has a love child living in Martinique with his lover Vera Baker.
Curtis Lowe

United States

#2 Aug 10, 2011
Clinton was impeached for obstruction of justice and perjury. Not sex.

Wartime III

“Operation GTFO Advocate”

Since: Jul 11

Kenyan-Bound Commie Blubber

#3 Aug 11, 2011
Where's Aunt Zeteuni?
Curtis Lowe

United States

#4 Aug 11, 2011
Wartime III wrote:
Where's Aunt Zeteuni?
Still livin in the slums of Dorchester on the government's dime. Pathetic.
sue

East Hartford, CT

#5 Aug 11, 2011
Curtis Lowe wrote:
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Still livin in the slums of Dorchester on the government's dime. Pathetic.
Totally pathetic, if Obama cant take care of his own family. People think he cares about them?
why_vote

Acworth, GA

#6 Aug 11, 2011
It takes a lot of guts to speak about the 911 inside job or jfk assassination theories what with some of the people speaking out on the 911 thing disapearing or getting offed under mysterious circumstances. but I think this false flag thingy is just so common in wars going back into history. And who are we really to second guess our generals who possibly made this kind of thing necessary to begin the conflict they so desperatey wanted?

Inconvenient Truth

“DEMOCRATS ARE JACKASSES”

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#7 Aug 11, 2011
why_vote wrote:
It takes a lot of guts to speak about the 911 inside job or jfk assassination theories what with some of the people speaking out on the 911 thing disapearing or getting offed under mysterious circumstances. but I think this false flag thingy is just so common in wars going back into history. And who are we really to second guess our generals who possibly made this kind of thing necessary to begin the conflict they so desperatey wanted?
Damn! Another mental case off of their meds. Check yourself in and seek help ya nut job.
true

Crozet, VA

#8 Aug 11, 2011
Gulf of tonkon wasnt a conspiracy it was truth
riechk fires another truth
kennedy was killed by CIA another truth
turning the USA into a third world country is still called conspiracy while its being played out before your very eyes
flouride linked to heart disease put in water was a conspiracy while they dump it in your water everyday
vaccines and autizim jump another conspiracy just tell my friends wife that
NAFTA super highway conspiracy
a new world currency conspiracy
building 7 the smoking gun

I guess anything that goes against corporate government owned media is a conspiracy
people are so gullible
Dorian

Hanover, MA

#9 Aug 11, 2011
If we don't question and research these tragedies, others will go on unchecked....we can handle the truth, or can we? Playing ostrich should not even be an option.
Mooney

United States

#10 Aug 11, 2011
That's because the public's been lied to, they can't accept reality and man is hypothesizing.
WOODCHUCK

North Port, FL

#11 Aug 11, 2011
Its Always guys making money from FOOLS,NIWITS,HALFBRAINS,MORONS ,DOORKNOBS,GLEPS,NIMKOMPOOPS,a nd last but not leat LOONS!....Fat ass Victums for any Insanity....They give money,buy books,And Contribute.This logic is from the world of the PIPE....

Aliens,big foot,JFK,Lincoln,and all other explained ,researched things,are to be Doubted..with a Plausible Impossible story to these AH...Charlestons to make money.....Form Snake oil and used Car sales people1

PS..Wanna see My big foot toe??? how about the missing JFK Bullet?....John Wilkes Booth did NOT kill Lincoln...It was His crazy wife...Aliens built the Pyrmides1..and on and on it goes....Charltens FLEECING THE POOR DUMB ASS SHEEP AMONG US....!!

Since: Dec 07

Palestine, TX

#12 Aug 11, 2011
true wrote:
Gulf of tonkon wasnt a conspiracy it was truth
riechk fires another truth
kennedy was killed by CIA another truth
turning the USA into a third world country is still called conspiracy while its being played out before your very eyes
flouride linked to heart disease put in water was a conspiracy while they dump it in your water everyday
vaccines and autizim jump another conspiracy just tell my friends wife that
NAFTA super highway conspiracy
a new world currency conspiracy
building 7 the smoking gun
I guess anything that goes against corporate government owned media is a conspiracy
people are so gullible
Building 7 was hit by Tower 1. When the fire chief said "pull it" it was a reference to getting the firemen out of the building.

No smoking gun there.
true

Crozet, VA

#13 Aug 11, 2011
Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
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Building 7 was hit by Tower 1. When the fire chief said "pull it" it was a reference to getting the firemen out of the building.
No smoking gun there.
Ok believe what you want watch the whole damnn thing on tape maybe your eyes might tell you different

Since: Dec 07

Palestine, TX

#14 Aug 11, 2011
true wrote:
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Ok believe what you want watch the whole damnn thing on tape maybe your eyes might tell you different
By your own admission, yes it's all on tape and all conspiracy theories were blown to hell by.......scientists, physics engineers and explosives engineers. Now go quickly to the aylum cafeteria, they're giving away free pudding.

Since: Dec 07

Palestine, TX

#15 Aug 11, 2011
true wrote:
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Ok believe what you want watch the whole damnn thing on tape maybe your eyes might tell you different
BTB, Elvis is dead, Paul is alive, we actually went to the moon, Roswell was a weather baloon, Area 51 was used to test secret U-2, Stealth and SR-71 aircraft, JFK was killed by a lone socialist commie nutball, Bush didn't buy a 90,000 acre ranch in Paraguay where is was going to rule the new world order after having the democrat candidate assisinated in 2008, nor did he secretly have the Air Force seed the clouds of Katrina to make the winds stronger knocking out the oil platforms so he could raise oil prices, McCain didn't start the Forrestal fire, nor did he sing to the North Vietnamese......

Brudder, quit reading Rolling Stone while your high!
true

Crozet, VA

#16 Aug 11, 2011
Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
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By your own admission, yes it's all on tape and all conspiracy theories were blown to hell by.......scientists, physics engineers and explosives engineers. Now go quickly to the aylum cafeteria, they're giving away free pudding.
Your so called science czars were disagreed with by like 3 to 1 but since they were good little minions they were used to make the phony claims that science doesnt agree with
so go back for your next vaccine and take your flouride its good for you
Hoo-else

United States

#17 Aug 11, 2011
true wrote:
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Your so called science czars were disagreed with by like 3 to 1 but since they were good little minions they were used to make the phony claims that science doesnt agree with
so go back for your next vaccine and take your flouride its good for you
Source?
true

Crozet, VA

#18 Aug 11, 2011
Hoo-else wrote:
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Source?
Gee how about the commission 6 out of 10 and they werent even scientists

future.

The explosive nature of nanothermite

Kevin Ryan | A series of peer-reviewed scientific articles has been published that establish the presence of thermitic materials at the World Trade Center
This essay does not argue that bombs brought down the Twin Towers or World Trade Building 7, even though many top structural engineers believe that is what happened, and people could easily have planted bombs in the trade centers without anyone noticing and without the conspiracy being discovered.

It simply addresses the frequent argument that fires caused the metal to sag, which brought down the 3 buildings, and that the case is closed.

The Fires at the World Trade Centers Were NOT Very Hot

The government agency in charge of the investigation of why three buildings collapsed on 9/11 – the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST)– says that paint tests indicated low steel temperatures — 480 Fahrenheit —“despite pre-collapse exposure to fire”. NIST also said that microstructure tests showed no steel reached critical (half-strength) values of 600 Celsius (1112 degrees Fahrenheit) for any significant time.

Numerous top fire protection engineers have said that the fires in the World Trade Centers were not that hot. For example:
A mechanical engineer with 20 years experience as a Fire Protection Engineer for the U.S. Departments of Energy, Defense, and Veterans Affairs, who is a contributing Subject Matter Expert to the U.S. Department of Energy Fire Protection Engineering Functional Area Qualification Standard for Nuclear Facilities, a board member of the Northern California – Nevada Chapter of the Society of Fire Protection Engineers, currently serving as Fire Protection Engineer for the city of San Jose, California, the 10th largest city in the United States (Edward S. Munyak) says that the fires weren’t big enough to bring down Building 7:
true

Crozet, VA

#19 Aug 11, 2011
The Argument Evaporates Upon Inspection
Defenders of the "official" version of 9/11 say, in rebuttal, that the fires didn't have to be that hot, because - while not hot enough to melt steel - they were hot enough to cause the metal to sag.
It is irrelevant (and beyond the scope of this post) whether or not their argument is correct. Specifically, since even defenders of official story admit that the fires were not hot enough to melt steel, then it is impossible to explain the huge quantify of molten steel which was observed under Ground Zero for months after the attacks (see next section, below).
Indeed, not only was structural steel somehow melted on 9/11, but it was EVAPORATED. Specifically, as the New York Times reports, an expert stated about World Trade Center building 7:
A combination of an uncontrolled fire and the structural damage might have been able to bring the building down, some engineers said. But that would not explain steel members in the debris pile that appear to have been PARTLY EVAPORATED in extraordinarily high temperatures.
(pay-per-view).
Note that evaporation means conversion from a liquid to a gas; so the steel beams in building 7 were subjected to temperatures high enough to melt and evaporate them.
It is simply impossible that fires from jet fuels and office materials could do that.
Molten Metal Under Ground Zero for MONTHS After Attacks
There was molten metal under ground zero for months after 9/11:
•The structural engineer responsible for the design of the WTC, described fires still burning and molten steel still running 21 days after the attacks (page 3)
•A structural engineer who worked for the Trade Center's original designer saw "streams of molten metal that leaked from the hot cores and flowed down broken walls inside the foundation hole." (pages 31-32)
•An engineer stated in the September 3, 2002 issue of The Structural Engineer, "They showed us many fascinating slides ranging from molten metal, which was still red hot weeks after the event."
•New York firefighters recalled in a documentary film, "heat so intense they encountered rivers of molten steel."
•A NY firefighter described molten steel flowing at ground zero, and said it was like a "foundry" or like "lava".
•A public health advisor who arrived at Ground Zero on September 12, said that "feeling the heat" and "seeing the molten steel" there reminded him of a volcano.
•An employee of New Jersey's Task Force One Urban Search and Rescue witnessed "Fires burn[ing and molten steel flow[ing] in the pile of ruins still settling beneath her feet."
•The head of a team of scientists studying the potential health effects of 9/11, reported, "Fires are still actively burning and the smoke is very intense. In some pockets now being uncovered, they are finding molten steel."
•According to a worker involved with the organizing of demolition, excavation and debris removal operations at ground zero, "Underground it was still so hot that molten metal dripped down the sides of the wall from Building 6."
•A reporter with rare access to the debris at ground zero "descended deep below street level to areas where underground fires still burned and steel flowed in molten streams."
••According to a member of New York Air National Guard's 109th Air Wing, who was at Ground Zero from September 22 to October 6, "One fireman told us that there was still molten steel at the heart of the towers' remains. Firemen sprayed water to cool the debris down but the heat remained intense enough at the surface to melt their boots."
•A professor of physics and atmospheric science said "in mid-October when they would pull out a steel beam, the lower part would be glowing dull red, which indicates a temperature on the order of 500 to 600 °C. And we know that people were turning over pieces of concrete in December that would flash into fire--which requires about 300 °C. So the surface of the pile cooled rather rapidly, but the bulk of the pile stayed hot all the way to December."
true

Crozet, VA

#20 Aug 11, 2011
The truth is hoo else i could give you all the paperwork you needed even the deaths of those who bucked against the bs during that time
bottom line I dont trust puppet potus or the other 3 that were in there before him
you can i dont ever wonder why if bin laden was just killed where the kidney machine was or why there wasnt one there thats a messed up story in its self, I personaly spoke to officails that pronounced him dead years ago. So someones lieing and I make a practice not to lie so you as I said believe what you want. I bet you even believe in al gore who got caught proven lieing

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