Floons spitting on Victims. Questions...

Floons spitting on Victims. Questions for Len, Octo, NHL etc.

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mrsbillhicks

Taylor, MI

#1 Aug 29, 2014
Im new to Mj. I read a book abt 7 months ago and have been very interested in the allegations since. When Wade courageously came out recently, I have been in his corner. Too much smoke for no fire. I noticed floons HATE Wade. All I ever hear is ' every accuser is after $.' I do not buy into that!

Those old biddies on The American Talk Show, " The View" claim they felt something was fishy regarding the newest allegations. Like, Sharon Osbourne and Whoope Goldberg really matter and are extremely intelligent and have all the answers to the universe. But I want to ask a few questions. No floons allowed!

Did you guys ( all posters who believe mj was a pedo) immediately come to a conclusion that he was guilty in 1993? I heard that Gavins Family were con artists to begin with, but can anyone tell me the reason Mj was declared not guilty at that trial? Not enough evidence? Oj was set free, so just becuz a verdict is not guilty, does not mean so. Len is disgusted: you have documents that you post often to back up your suspicions. Again, did you always think him guilty from '93 onward or over time, did you lean towards guilt.( cuz it took ME time.) And I know you will have to repeat yourself, but what key things in those documents and in general led you to a " hes guilty?"

I already have heard the floons, i want to hear from the other posters on what drew them to their conclusion.

And I ABSOLUTELY HATE how floons spit on the victims. Like these guys haven't suffered enough at the hands of MJ. Now they have to be called lazy, broke, liars who want a free ride off a dead man. I truly believe they are finally coming to grips w the abuse, only to be reabused by Fanatics obsessed with Gold Pants and Moonwalks!

You guys will save me alot of googling, if you just bring up the strongest evidence in your minds. Ty
mrsbillhicks

Taylor, MI

#2 Aug 29, 2014
Oops! NFL not NHL.
mrsbillhicks

Taylor, MI

#4 Aug 31, 2014
I guess ill have to google. Lol

“at yet more f'loonspin”

Since: Aug 11

I live far away from f'loons

#5 Sep 8, 2014
His behavior and his carved face made me so uncomfortable, at the 1984 Grammy Awards, I found him repulsive. When he made public appearances, he was always with children, which I found confusing. So, I didn't pay attention to him. After he died, I was told he did molest children. So, to make a long story short, I began reading the legal document and court transcripts, to find out the truth.

It was the vast amount of evidence gathered that convinced me he was a pedophile who got away with child molestation. For one, he kept NAMBLA-recommended books of nude and seminude boys, and a photo of one of his sleepover buddies, in the nude. Check page 2.

http://www.sbscpublicaccess.org/docs/ctdocs/0...

There was semen from two different males found on his mattress and mattress pad, and semen from a third male was found on stored sheets, along with his drugs-in-bloodstain underpants and children's clothes.

http://www.sbscpublicaccess.org/docs/ctdocs/1...

Check pages 4, 15-16, for description of contents in hotel laundry bags.

http://www.sbscpublicaccess.org/docs/ctdocs/0...

This was of such huge concern, Mesereau wanted the items kept out of court.

http://www.sbscpublicaccess.org/docs/ctdocs/0...

This was the D.A.'s response.

http://www.sbscpublicaccess.org/docs/ctdocs/0...

I also read the maids' testimonies. In Blanca Francia's testimony, she described how only little boys were allowed in Michael's bedroom. Begin reading her entire testimony, from page 115 onward. It's chilling.

http://www.mjfacts.info/transcripts/Court_Tra...

Kiki Fourner named the little boys who were spending quality time, alone with Michael, in his bedroom, during her testimony. She mentioned Aldo Cascio, on page 51. She also named other boys and mentioned the boys from the school across the street. Her testimony is equally chilling.

http://www.mjfacts.info/transcripts/Court_Tra...

When I read the testimonies of Larry Feldman, Dr. Stanley Katz, and Bill Dickerman's testimonies, I was convinced Gavin told the truth. These three people described the chain of events that led them to CPS and how the criminal charges began. They also said the Arvizo's never filed a civil suit, for money.

Larry Feldman's testimony begins on page 153.

http://www.mjfacts.info/transcripts/Court%20T...

Dr. Stanley Katz's testimony begins on page 111.

http://www.mjfacts.info/transcripts/Court_Tra...

Bill Dickerman's testimony begins on page 233.

http://www.mjfacts.info/transcripts/Court_Tra...

The nail in the coffin was reading the correspondence between attorneys and the discussion with Judge Melville, about how Jordan's drawing and description matched the photos of Michael's blotchy penis.

Here is why the D.A. wanted to introduce them.

http://www.sbscpublicaccess.org/docs/ctdocs/0...

Here is Mesereau's response. It was laughable because Sneddon wanted to introduce all of the material together because of the match. Mesereau's argument was if the drawing and description were not introduced with the photos and vice versa, it was just hearsay. I rolled my eyes and laughed when I read that.

www.sbscpublicaccess.org/docs/ctdocs/052605op...

This was the discussion with Judge Melville and the collection of attorneys, at the beginning of court. Unfortunately, Sneddon tried to introduce the material late, during the trial, under the wrong codes, as opposed to Section 1108, Prior Bad Acts. But the critical information is on page 45 when he told Mesereau the match was not hearsay.

http://www.mjfacts.info/transcripts/Court_Tra...
mrsbillhicks

Taylor, MI

#6 Sep 8, 2014
Len: i knew you would have to write a lot, but it is appreciated! This is like all the stuff i wanted in one place! I think after i read thru all the documents, i will have a much better understanding. Ty!

“at yet more f'loonspin”

Since: Aug 11

I live far away from f'loons

#7 Sep 8, 2014
This is the Santa Barbara County website.

http://www.sbscpublicaccess.org/

Unfortunately, if you want the court transcripts, you will have to get in contact with the court reporter and pay for them. However, MJ Facts has kindly listed all of the transcripts.

http://www.mjfacts.info/2005_trial_transcript...

F'loons like to say they're fake. But everytime I tell them to take up their complaints with Santa Barbara Superior Court, they don't do it, of course.
mrsbillhicks

Toledo, OH

#8 Sep 10, 2014
Len, im still in the middle of all this info. Im starting later the maids testimony- again, ty! This info needs to get out...

“at yet more f'loonspin”

Since: Aug 11

I live far away from f'loons

#9 Sep 10, 2014
I think so, too. I don't mind reposting any of it. The more the links are available to an internet search, the easier it is for people to find them.

Do you want a list of all of the evidence gathered by the police?

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