Elvis Presley Eclipses Michael Jackson

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Mike From NJ

Jackson, NJ

#21 Jul 5, 2009
Personally...I like Elvis better...but besides that does this comparison really friggin matter? What will it change? Nothing...they are dead and gone.
RBG

AOL

#22 Jul 5, 2009
Observer wrote:
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Princess Diana's death was FAR bigger than Elvis'.
Not to me. I couldn't have cared less about
Princess Diana's death.
JWJ

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#23 Jul 6, 2009
KB50MJ wrote:
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HA! I'll tear this article apart when I get back.
Just for the record!
Jackson's success resulted in his being dubbed the "King of Pop", a nickname conceived by actress and friend Elizabeth Taylor when she presented Jackson with an "Artist of the Decade" award in 1989, proclaiming him "the true king of pop, rock and soul"

So now we all know the truth, and it hurts. How funny is that, Elizabeth Taylor, not a musical historian or critic!
JWJ

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#24 Jul 6, 2009
I can proove that MJ's impact on society and world culture was minimal if any. For those of us who grew up during the 50's, young men and boys wanted to be like Elvis, and dressed like Elvis, with the Duck tail hairstyles, t-shirts and jeans. We all know the look. Presley affected the way we acted and dressed, just like the Beatles did in the 60's, affecting fashion and styles all over the world. Remember the term, Beatlemania? The Beatles affected fashion, behavior, social and moral norms, and the way we dressed and acted. Now lets take a look at Michael Jackson. Did he affect the way people dressed, acted and behaved? Did he change the world the way Presley and the Beatles did before him? I would answer with a resounding NO! People did not go around trying to look like and dress like MJ, unless it was a costume party, or Halloween. Besides, I don't know anyone who could afford that much plastic surgery. The reality of a celebrities real impact on a culture and society, is how it is impacted and yes changed by him. MJ may have impacted the music industry, but when it comes to the world society, and how people dressed, looked, and acted, he had zero effect! Unless you call an increase in child molestations a positive affect!
Steve

Kelowna, Canada

#25 Jul 6, 2009
What do people think is Michael's best song. I say Beat It.

Rank his songs here (add to the list if you wish)

http://www.irankd.com/ListSummary.aspx...

Rank Elvis' top songs

http://www.irankd.com/ListSummary.aspx...

“....may God bless you, Adios”

Since: Jul 07

Viva Las Vegas

#26 Jul 6, 2009
An NFL Fan wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't hurry, Mary Anne.
I agree!:)
vegasbaby

Lancaster, OH

#27 Jul 6, 2009
An NFL Fan wrote:
I've mentioned it before, but it bears repeating:
Elvis did the young Ann Margaret.(Check out pics of her from '64)
In contrast, Jackson lost to the elderly Ann Margaret at arm wresting.
I rest my case.
Oh I believe it will stop, mj does not have the staying power that Elvis has. In fact he was all but washed up..till he died. This too will soon die.
BIG DADDY ROSS JENKINS

Chicago, IL

#28 Jul 6, 2009
there would be no Elvis without Black Music.

white kids were listening to Black Rock n Roll and white radio needed a substitute. Elvis didnt write any music
nina

Ottawa, Canada

#29 Jul 6, 2009
BIG DADDY ROSS JENKINS wrote:
there would be no Elvis without Black Music.
white kids were listening to Black Rock n Roll and white radio needed a substitute. Elvis didnt write any music
rock n roll also has deep country roots

most singers do not write their own music

writing is not a measure of a singer

anymore than writing is a measure of an actor.
RBG

AOL

#30 Jul 6, 2009
BIG DADDY ROSS JENKINS wrote:
there would be no Elvis without Black Music.
white kids were listening to Black Rock n Roll and white radio needed a substitute. Elvis didnt write any music
Elvis didn't come along as a substitute for black
music. If anything, the racist whites hated the
idea of Elvis covering black music because it
spread the music to a much wider audience by
introducing it to the mainstream. Elvis Presley
covered many songs both written by black and white
songwritters and helped black artists get exposed
to young whites buying the music by black artists.
White racists really wanted to get rid of Elvis.
They were not overjoyed to the idea that both
black and white performers could exsist together
and do Rock n Roll. Elvis was just popular because
of his different talents went in directions that
went all across the board between race and gender.

Since: Sep 08

Brooklyn, NY

#31 Jul 6, 2009
JWJ wrote:
<quoted text>
Just for the record!
Jackson's success resulted in his being dubbed the "King of Pop", a nickname conceived by actress and friend Elizabeth Taylor when she presented Jackson with an "Artist of the Decade" award in 1989, proclaiming him "the true king of pop, rock and soul"
So now we all know the truth, and it hurts. How funny is that, Elizabeth Taylor, not a musical historian or critic!
Well many agreed with her, because the name stuck and people called him that.

but even music critics say the name is justified.

Since: Sep 08

Brooklyn, NY

#32 Jul 6, 2009
JWJ wrote:
I can proove that MJ's impact on
Were you even around in 1983/1984?

TONS of kids were wearing his Beat It and Thriller jackets. And many were wearing the whit gloves and socks.

I know this because of video and personal first hand accounts by many people who were around at that time.

One school in New Jersey even banned kids wearing the white glove to school because it was getting too crazy.

And many were trying to copy and imitate his dance moves and everything.

MJ had a HUGE impact on society.

Get a clue.
JWJ

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#33 Jul 6, 2009
KB50MJ wrote:
<quoted text>
Well many agreed with her, because the name stuck and people called him that.
but even music critics say the name is justified.
Really, give me a few names? I know your game now, and you make up things with out any supporting evidence. Just give ma one name? That should be easy enough right? As you do not accept any industry numbers for record sales, I think you have a problem supporting how many records MJ sold. Your numbers cannot be more accurate just because they are for MJ, and Elvis and the Beatles sales figures are just hype according to you. I do not believe that MJ sold more then 300 million records, and you cannot proove other wise. Make up all the numbers you want, because that is what you do anyway! Winning an award from the AMA does not make something true. Who is the AMA? Their goal is to promote record sales not the truth. It is only the opinion of a handful of people. Let the public speak! That is the real test of who is more popular and a bigger star. As far as quoting sales dollar figures, revenue concert figures, those numbers mean nothing, as a record was $2.99 when the Beatles played, and a concert ticket was $12.50. Try comparing that to todays prices, so you see those numbers tell us nothing! You would have us believe that an Award show is more credible source of a made up title, then a respected news organization like Time Magazine, that conducts mathematically reliable surveys representing the countries poulation, and the peoples choices. You got no game to support anything you say. The AMA's were not given a special decree to make their awards factual and they were not appointed by a higher source either to make their award more meaningful then the Grammys. All you have my friend is an opinion, and not a good one at that.
JWJ

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#34 Jul 6, 2009
KB50MJ wrote:
<quoted text>
Were you even around in 1983/1984?
TONS of kids were wearing his Beat It and Thriller jackets. And many were wearing the whit gloves and socks.
I know this because of video and personal first hand accounts by many people who were around at that time.
One school in New Jersey even banned kids wearing the white glove to school because it was getting too crazy.
And many were trying to copy and imitate his dance moves and everything.
MJ had a HUGE impact on society.
Get a clue.
Well there you go, that represents the entire country and the world. Your personal knowlege of the event is enough to validate it as true! You must be some well respected industry source or something. Here I thought you were just MJ's boyfriend. Silly me! Have you been drinking today? How was your sleep over last night?

“Brevity is the soule of wit”

Since: May 09

USA

#36 Jul 6, 2009
JWJ wrote:
<quoted text>
Really, give me a few names? I know your game now, and you make up things with out any supporting evidence. Just give ma one name? That should be easy enough right? As you do not accept any industry numbers for record sales, I think you have a problem supporting how many records MJ sold. Your numbers cannot be more accurate just because they are for MJ, and Elvis and the Beatles sales figures are just hype according to you. I do not believe that MJ sold more then 300 million records, and you cannot proove other wise. Make up all the numbers you want, because that is what you do anyway! Winning an award from the AMA does not make something true. Who is the AMA? Their goal is to promote record sales not the truth. It is only the opinion of a handful of people. Let the public speak! That is the real test of who is more popular and a bigger star. As far as quoting sales dollar figures, revenue concert figures, those numbers mean nothing, as a record was $2.99 when the Beatles played, and a concert ticket was $12.50. Try comparing that to todays prices, so you see those numbers tell us nothing! You would have us believe that an Award show is more credible source of a made up title, then a respected news organization like Time Magazine, that conducts mathematically reliable surveys representing the countries poulation, and the peoples choices. You got no game to support anything you say. The AMA's were not given a special decree to make their awards factual and they were not appointed by a higher source either to make their award more meaningful then the Grammys. All you have my friend is an opinion, and not a good one at that.
You make an excellent point.
The recording industry, just as the film industry is handing out awards like candy at Halloween. It's all part of the self promotion scam.

That's one of the reasons the Grammys turned into such a joke.

“Brevity is the soule of wit”

Since: May 09

USA

#37 Jul 6, 2009
KB50MJ wrote:
<quoted text>
Were you even around in 1983/1984?
TONS of kids were wearing his Beat It and Thriller jackets. And many were wearing the whit gloves and socks.
I know this because of video and personal first hand accounts by many people who were around at that time.
One school in New Jersey even banned kids wearing the white glove to school because it was getting too crazy.
And many were trying to copy and imitate his dance moves and everything.
MJ had a HUGE impact on society.
Get a clue.
The affectation of kids with fashion is NOT an 'impact on society'. A president assassinated is an impact – a hurricane that wipes out a coastal area is an impact. But kids with greasy hair, or the latest hat is superfluous in comparison.

In comparison, Michael Jackson was a fly on the back of an elephant.

Priorities, please.
nina

Ottawa, Canada

#38 Jul 6, 2009
KB50MJ wrote:
<quoted text>
Were you even around in 1983/1984?...
Yes I was

and there were way more Billy Idol and Duran Duran clones than MJ ones.

Since: Sep 08

Brooklyn, NY

#39 Jul 6, 2009
JWJ wrote:
<quoted text>
Really, give me a few names? I know your game now,
Well if you are so interested in Time Magazines opinion, then here you go.

"No Celebrity Supernova Burned Brighter Than Jackson At the Peak of His Career"
http://www.time.com/time/specials/michael-jac...

Now you seem to be confused here. I never denied the opinions of music industry organizations.

I have always had faith in them. But NO organization other than RCA has claim Elvis old a billion records.

And you are also confused on MJ's sales. I'm quoting the realistic sales, and I can prove them. I'm claiming Mj sold less than what people say.

The inflated sales for MJ are the ones claiming he sold 750 million. Just like 1 billion for Elvis and the Beatles and 300 million for Led Zeppelin or 400 million for ABBA. ITS ALL CRAP AND ONLY FOR PROMOTIONAL REASONS.

The biggest selling artists of all time are in this order.

1) The Beatles- 495 million

2) & 3) tie between MJ and Elvis at around 330 million.

This is not only me saying this. Go to any chart analysis website and you will find similar figures.
----------

And with the American Music Awards. More people trust them than a magazine publication.

That poll that claimed Elvis was #1 was a poll reflecting a SMALL portion of the American public.

FAR from reliable or truth at all.

Since: Sep 08

Brooklyn, NY

#40 Jul 6, 2009
JWJ wrote:
<quoted text>
Well there you go, that represents the entire country and the world. Your personal knowlege of the event is enough to validate it as true! You must be some well respected industry source or something. Here I thought you were just MJ's boyfriend. Silly me! Have you been drinking today? How was your sleep over last night?
The same can be said for your opinion on hoe people were dressing like Elvis or the Beatles.

Since: Sep 08

Brooklyn, NY

#41 Jul 6, 2009
An NFL Fan wrote:
<quoted text>
The affectation of kids with fashion is NOT an 'impact on society'. A president assassinated is an impact – a hurricane that wipes out a coastal area is an impact. But kids with greasy hair, or the latest hat is superfluous in comparison.
In comparison, Michael Jackson was a fly on the back of an elephant.
Priorities, please.
And the same ca be said about Elvis and The Beatles.

But thats not the only way Mj impacted society.

His work has influenced and continues to influence today’s recording artists, filmmakers, directors, actors, and people all over the world. Michael Jackson’s contributions to pop culture will be honored for generations to come. Jackson's clothing was also a source of inspiration for many clothes designers as well.

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