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You have lost the plot butterballs.the boy was lying no match.he never touched any child in a sexual way.lies for greed and money.
Tom sneddon had a vendetta against Michael Jackson.he committed felonies.tom sneddon
Should be held accountable for the crimes he committed against Michael Jackson.you only needed to look at sneddon to see what a creep he was.
Lets get the record straight.Michael never had his
Cheeks done,or his eyes altered he never had his lips thinned or dermbrasion.or skin peel.the rumours are ridiculous.yes he had his nose done
He added a cleft in his chin.he never bleached his skin.he had a serious skin condition fool
Vitiligo and Lupus.and how distressing it was for him.you only have to Imagian waking up day by day.to find Increasing patches of blotchy pale skin
He had cream to help.with this condition and he relied heavily on make up.it was a skin condition
That destroys the pigmentation.Michael was very
Sensitive about his skin condition.the doctors advice was to stay out of the sun.thats when he
Started walking around with an umbrella.and in later years trying to cope with arthrities the man was in a lot of pain.by the way butterballs Michael
Was telling the truth.and if you listened to the truth instead of being brainwashed by the press
Butterballs the only lying scumbag on here is you
Haters don't even want to believe the coroner's report which verified that he had vitiligo.

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MICHAEL I WANT YOU BACK wrote:
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You have lost the plot butterballs.the boy was lying no match.he never touched any child in a sexual way.lies for greed and money.
Tom sneddon had a vendetta against Michael Jackson.he committed felonies.tom sneddon
Should be held accountable for the crimes he committed against Michael Jackson.you only needed to look at sneddon to see what a creep he was.
Lets get the record straight.Michael never had his
Cheeks done,or his eyes altered he never had his lips thinned or dermbrasion.or skin peel.the rumours are ridiculous.yes he had his nose done
He added a cleft in his chin.he never bleached his skin.he had a serious skin condition fool
Vitiligo and Lupus.and how distressing it was for him.you only have to Imagian waking up day by day.to find Increasing patches of blotchy pale skin
He had cream to help.with this condition and he relied heavily on make up.it was a skin condition
That destroys the pigmentation.Michael was very
Sensitive about his skin condition.the doctors advice was to stay out of the sun.thats when he
Started walking around with an umbrella.and in later years trying to cope with arthrities the man was in a lot of pain.by the way butterballs Michael
Was telling the truth.and if you listened to the truth instead of being brainwashed by the press
Butterballs the only lying scumbag on here is you
Do you know how they spell it, for people like you? I'll make it easy.

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Len is Disgusted wrote:
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What is on your list? Nearly all the myths dear to f'loons' hearts have been debunked. But we could set up the list and give the proof they hate so much.
Len
1) where did jimmy safe chuck get married
2) proof that mj paid ( not phantom insurance )
3) description did match
4) Evan chandlers soundbites taken out of context in order
5) mj did self proclaim
6) mj copied look and dance from bob fosse
7) Aaron carter Jesus juice and 5 am molestation call
Etc.

Jimmy Safechuck findings
ETA 11-24-2011:

A few clarifications on this piece, since many people (not MJ Realists, of course) find contextualizing mentally taxing and, thus, choose not to do it. It's a measure of a writer's skill and finesse to make things simple and override the desire for verbosity... consider it a handy summary.

First, let's go back to Jack Gordon's 1991 interview and that Gordon called Michael Jackson a 'pederast' before he was ever accused of child molestation. So, what's the point of mentioning Gordon? It's twofold:

La Toya Jackson claims now that Jack Gordon was just "jumping on the bandwagon" when the 1993 allegations surfaced. But how did Gordon jump on the bandwagon in 1991, when no one was calling Jackson a pedophile? And, in the event that some perceptive journalist had brought up the idea of Jackson's behavior with children as being 'odd' during that time, is it not interesting that Jackson was then accused of molesting a boy, that charge resulting in a staggering multimillion dollar settlement?
La Toya Jackson claims now that all of what she'd said was fabricated by Jack, but he'd called Jackson a pederast when no one was calling him a pederast (maybe just calling him a 'kooky kid obsessive'); just two years later, when Jackson was accused of the conduct of pederasts, La Toya had stories of her mother showing her a massive check to a person verified as the father of a 'special friend' and admissions that she'd seen her brother's comings-and-goings with various boys at Hayvenhurst, although she admits to have witnessed no incidents of molestation; all of what La Toya Jackson stated in 1993 added to and corroborated the reasonable suspicion that Michael Jackson was guilty of abusing Jordie Chandler, hence why it was said.
In a nutshell, what has been illuminated above is the fact that people called Jackson a pedophile before the title seemed interchangeable with that of the 'King of Pop'; he was subsequently accused of pedophilia just a short time later. The same goes with the fact of the Lemarques' 1991 claim of Jackson fondling a distracted Macaulay Culkin and his watching of pornography in the Neverland theater with his boy guests, a claim that was then corroborated by two other pieces of evidence: the Arvizo boys' claim that Jackson showed them pornography and the claim by Santa Barbara County police investigator Jeffery Ellis that when Omer Bhatti had been asked about pornography at Neverland he seemed visibly nervous and loss his use of eloquent speech.

Let's move to La Toya Jackson's seeing a large check made out to James Safechuck, Sr. The extended entry details Mr. Safechuck's prolific history in the garbage business, dating back, according to public records, to at least 1983. And what is important to glean from this?
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MICHAEL I WANT YOU BACK wrote:
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Shut the hell up every loser scum.hes nothing like
Saville you dick head.hes innocent you fool
That gentle sweet man never did anything to anybody.you foolish clown.you live in a world of make believe.you do not even speak about him in that way.and you have no right to treat him that way,you have no right to Judge him.
Michaels been badly attacked for things he never did.Instead of Judging him.hear the truth! Michael always told the truth.he was Innocent.I believe in every word he said and I will only listen to Michael
And still do.you fools dont even know him.you do not know anything about him.Michael just sat and took everything like a man.Michael sweet angel as he is never said anything bad about anybody even those who persecuted and backstabbed him.with Jealousy lies and greed through the lowest forms of human being cannot tarnish a blessed soul
Michael showed them all with being kind patient and being perfect.and being such a sweet and loving person.and he will always have me to support him and defending him because I love him
And care about him and believe only in him
To me michael will always be an angel
LEAVE HIM ALONE
I WILL ALWAYS BE MISSING YOU MICHAEL
WE WANT OUR ANGEL BACK
LOVING YOU MJ FOREVER
“When people said he liked children more than adults and is always taking in troubled kids to his ranch, none of that means he’s not a child molester. I’m not saying he is, but that certainly doesn’t say he’s not. It fits with a consistent mold with many individuals who have this problem.”
For both Sandusky and Jackson, Lanning said,“nothing is unique about either situation when looking at child molestation charges.”
Child-lover molesters almost never use violence for sex, said Lanning. Instead, they groom and seduce and manipulate and use cooperation to get what they want out of the child.
“I can’t tell you how many cases where there are letters from the victim written to the accused, saying,‘You’re the nicest person I ever met,’ or ‘You’ve been so good to me,’” said Lanning.
Many victims don’t tell anyone of the inappropriate behavior because they are considered “compliant child victims.”
“A child can’t legally consent to having sex, but some of them aren’t necessarily fighting him off,” said Lanning.“They’re developmentally immature, and later they feel ashamed and embarrassed that they cooperated in their victimization.”
At any one time, these types of child molesters have four different areas of focus going on at once.
“They operate in a pipeline,” said Lanning.“They always have their eye out for new victims and new kids to go in the pipeline; then they go into full seduction mode. They’re grooming the kids, and usually the parents, too, by showering the kids with gifts and attention. Then at some point, they’re having full sexual activity with the child; then later, maybe a year or two after this goes on, the kid gets too old and the predator is not interested anymore. He’s trying to move him out– pushing him out the other end of the pipeline.”
The kids then often realize that the predator did not actually care about him. The predator used him and no longer has an interest in him sexually.
“That’s when victims often come forward,” said Lanning.
If parents feel suspicious, Anna Salter, a Wisconsin-based psychologist who has worked with sex offenders and victims for 30 years, said they should not feel like they need hard proof to remove a child from the situation.
“If you’re wrong, you’re wrong,” said Salter.“If you’re right, you’ve really saved the kid from severe trauma. You must act conservatively when it comes to the health and safety of children.”
“I often tell parents, if any adult wants to be around your kids more than you do, beware,” said Lanning.“And beware of anything that seems to be too good to be true"

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Len
1) where did jimmy safe chuck get married
2) proof that mj paid ( not phantom insurance )
3) description did match
4) Evan chandlers soundbites taken out of context in order
5) mj did self proclaim
6) mj copied look and dance from bob fosse
7) Aaron carter Jesus juice and 5 am molestation call
Etc.
1. Jimmy Safechuck was married in Illinois.

2. On the Chandler-Jackson contract, it was stated Michael was responsible for paying the settlement and nobody else.

http://www.mjfacts.info/the-settlement-docume...

In fact, there is an archived newspaper clipping, on the mjfacts website, of a newspaper article describing how an insurance company refused to pay the bill.

http://www.mjfacts.info/resources/images/news...

3. Tom Sneddon wanted to introduce the child's drawing and description into court with the photos of Michael's wang because it was a match.

http://www.sbscpublicaccess.org/docs/ctdocs/0...

Tom Mesereau never denied they matched. He skirted the issue by saying if the drawing and description were introduced without the photos, and vice versa, it was hearsay. This is laughable because Sneddon planned to introduce all of that evidence together in court.

http://www.sbscpublicaccess.org/docs/ctdocs/0...

The best proof is Judge Melville's response. The judge agreed the defense was correct in that it should have been originally introduced under Section 1108, Prior Bad Acts. The D.A. tried to introduce it under 1101(b), Character Evidence, much too late in the case. However, at the end of the discussion on page 45, the judge said it was not hearsay, about the match.

http://www.mjfacts.info/transcripts/Court_Tra...

4. I've heard the tape, and it was so obviously edited, it's laughable. Aside from that, Evan sounded like an angry father, who was livid at the man who molested his son.

5. Why do people think Michael self-proclaimed? He always took the 5th Amendment and did not cooperate with the police. During this particular deposition, his attorney told him to not answer any questions about his little-boy friends.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

6. I found clips of Bob Fosse. Given Michael was taught the Moonwalk by Cooley Jaxson, Casper Candidate, and Jeffery Daniels and didn't name them, he did seem to borrow a lot from Bob.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

7. Here's the video clip of Aaron Carter admitting he awakened at 5am and found Michael on his bed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Len is Disgusted wrote:
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1. Jimmy Safechuck was married in Illinois.
2. On the Chandler-Jackson contract, it was stated Michael was responsible for paying the settlement and nobody else.
http://www.mjfacts.info/the-settlement-docume...
In fact, there is an archived newspaper clipping, on the mjfacts website, of a newspaper article describing how an insurance company refused to pay the bill.
http://www.mjfacts.info/resources/images/news...
3. Tom Sneddon wanted to introduce the child's drawing and description into court with the photos of Michael's wang because it was a match.
http://www.sbscpublicaccess.org/docs/ctdocs/0...
Tom Mesereau never denied they matched. He skirted the issue by saying if the drawing and description were introduced without the photos, and vice versa, it was hearsay. This is laughable because Sneddon planned to introduce all of that evidence together in court.
http://www.sbscpublicaccess.org/docs/ctdocs/0...
The best proof is Judge Melville's response. The judge agreed the defense was correct in that it should have been originally introduced under Section 1108, Prior Bad Acts. The D.A. tried to introduce it under 1101(b), Character Evidence, much too late in the case. However, at the end of the discussion on page 45, the judge said it was not hearsay, about the match.
http://www.mjfacts.info/transcripts/Court_Tra...
4. I've heard the tape, and it was so obviously edited, it's laughable. Aside from that, Evan sounded like an angry father, who was livid at the man who molested his son.
5. Why do people think Michael self-proclaimed? He always took the 5th Amendment and did not cooperate with the police. During this particular deposition, his attorney told him to not answer any questions about his little-boy friends.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
6. I found clips of Bob Fosse. Given Michael was taught the Moonwalk by Cooley Jaxson, Casper Candidate, and Jeffery Daniels and didn't name them, he did seem to borrow a lot from Bob.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
7. Here's the video clip of Aaron Carter admitting he awakened at 5am and found Michael on his bed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Thank you Len
It's funny, per Aaron carter, mj didn't like anyone around his kids, but mj sure overstepped his bounds with other peoples kids !

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With regard to the beloved King of Pop, the only motions Haterz face are their own rotten bowl motions.

Haterz are full of it.
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With regard to the beloved King of Pop, the only motions Haterz face are their own rotten bowl motions.
Haterz are full of it.
Isn't that a ignorant comment? Anyone who thinks mj was a pedophile is a hater is the same as anyone who thinks he wasn't is a syncophant

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<quoted text>Isn't that a ignorant comment? Anyone who thinks mj was a pedophile is a hater is the same as anyone who thinks he wasn't is a syncophant
I think it's ignorant from Haterz who choose to ignore the exposed and proven lies from the prosecution.

Haterz with their smear campaigns destroyed MJ's spirit but now that he is with his maker the hate will be exposed.

It will be interesting to see the exposure of Robson's demented lies this year. Let's hope that he doesn't create the same exit as Chandler did. ;-(

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goodvibrations wrote:
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I think it's ignorant from Haterz who choose to ignore the exposed and proven lies from the prosecution.
Haterz with their smear campaigns destroyed MJ's spirit but now that he is with his maker the hate will be exposed.
It will be interesting to see the exposure of Robson's demented lies this year. Let's hope that he doesn't create the same exit as Chandler did. ;-(
What about the exposed lies from wacko jacko ?
Description did match
Lapd didn't hurt his shoulder
Mj was not put in a fecus ridden bathroom

Why do you accept Latoya flipp flopping when she correctly stated jimmy safe chuck receiving large checks ?
Seems like your a hypocritical sycophant floon.
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You haters are the lying clowns.every word Michael said.he was always telling the truth
When I say Michael was an angel-he truly was
Michael was very humble down to earth.Just a loving and sweetest person.he was just a total babe.all that man went through with all these wicked lies.and the press were Just Monsters to him.he never said one bad thing about anybody
He was attacked badly for things he never said
Or done.give this good man some respect.and let him rest in peace.

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What about the exposed lies from wacko jacko ?
Description did match
Lapd didn't hurt his shoulder
Mj was not put in a fecus ridden bathroom
Why do you accept Latoya flipp flopping when she correctly stated jimmy safe chuck receiving large checks ?
Seems like your a hypocritical sycophant floon.
A definite match would have meant a sentence that never happened because it did not match.

Autopsy revealed surgery on MJ's shoulder.

Latoya was married to an abuser who forced her with her life to say those things. If she had of stuck to the lies she would have been very rich. But she doesn't lie for money like his accusers did. Cheques? Proof and evidence is none:-(

There was nothing wrong with MJ's character, he was a good man. Get over it Hater.

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A definite match would have meant a sentence that never happened because it did not match.
Autopsy revealed surgery on MJ's shoulder.
Latoya was married to an abuser who forced her with her life to say those things. If she had of stuck to the lies she would have been very rich. But she doesn't lie for money like his accusers did. Cheques? Proof and evidence is none:-(
There was nothing wrong with MJ's character, he was a good man. Get over it Hater.
Great post gv...that particular hater has a vendetta.

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<quoted text> Great post gv...that particular hater has a vendetta.
Definitely

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A definite match would have meant a sentence that never happened because it did not match.
Autopsy revealed surgery on MJ's shoulder.
Latoya was married to an abuser who forced her with her life to say those things. If she had of stuck to the lies she would have been very rich. But she doesn't lie for money like his accusers did. Cheques? Proof and evidence is none:-(
There was nothing wrong with MJ's character, he was a good man. Get over it Hater.
1. But even Judge Melville said it was not hearsay that it matched. Why don't you talk to him, about it?

2. So what if he had surgery. Dancers to suffer injuries, and if Michael had taken the stand instead of invoking the 5th Amendment, he would have been asked a lot of questions about the lie.

3. The Arvizos did not ask for money.

4. Even if Jack Gordon forced to make Latoya write that book, she still told the truth.

5. There was everything wrong with MJ's character.

You're grasping at straws, f'loon.

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1. But even Judge Melville said it was not hearsay that it matched. Why don't you talk to him, about it?
2. So what if he had surgery. Dancers to suffer injuries, and if Michael had taken the stand instead of invoking the 5th Amendment, he would have been asked a lot of questions about the lie.
3. The Arvizos did not ask for money.
4. Even if Jack Gordon forced to make Latoya write that book, she still told the truth.
5. There was everything wrong with MJ's character.
You're grasping at straws, f'loon.
EXAMINE your own screwed upp life disgusting one.

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<quoted text> EXAMINE your own screwed upp life disgusting one.
I'm not the one who sleeps with young children, Jermaine. Michael did that, and I think it's disgusting. I hope you don't do that.

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I'm not the one who sleeps with young children, Jermaine. Michael did that, and I think it's disgusting. I hope you don't do that.
Quit your analyzing...jive...

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Jermaine 7 wrote:
<quoted text> Quit your analyzing...jive...
I think it would help you to at least start questioning a grown man who likes to sleep with young children.

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Len is Disgusted wrote:
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I think it would help you to at least start questioning a grown man who likes to sleep with young children.
No need...

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