'Thriller' Dance Raises Money for Rwanda

There are 20 comments on the Oct 24, 2013, Santa Barbara Independent story titled 'Thriller' Dance Raises Money for Rwanda. In it, Santa Barbara Independent reports that:

THE WALKING DEAD: Thrill the World dancers filled the Santa Barbara Courthouse Sunken Gardens in 2012.

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FOREVER MICHAEL

UK

#1 Oct 24, 2013
Michael still working for good cause
What a guy
Rickey Bobby

North Kingstown, RI

#2 Oct 24, 2013
It's only fair that the people of Rwanda should get something back. After all Michael took so much from the young Rwanda boys, namely their virginity.

Since: Jun 13

Durham, NC

#3 Oct 25, 2013
For those that don't know, the real choreographer behind "Thriller" wasn't MJ, it was Michael Peters, who was also behind "Beat It". Like the thing with Quincy, Peters was forced to share credit with MJ. If you watched the Making of Thriller footage, it seems like Peters was the one in charge of the whole thing than even MJ was.
Robin

Memphis, TN

#4 Oct 25, 2013
Michael Jackson also created quite a bit of the dance. He came up with some of the ideas on how to make the zombies actually dance like zombies.
Rickey Bobby

North Kingstown, RI

#6 Oct 25, 2013
Who knew that 20 years later that Michael Jackson would look more like a zombie in real life than any of the characters in the video. BTW, how would Michael Jackson know what a zombie dances like? Did he meet one before the video was shot? Again, Peters was forced to share the credit with the head zombie.
Rickey Bobby

North Kingstown, RI

#7 Oct 25, 2013
FOREVER MICHAEL wrote:
Michael still working for good cause
What a guy
Michael still dead. He is not working for anyone except Satan. How much of that money do you think will actually help the people in that country with their corrupt government?

Since: Jun 13

Durham, NC

#8 Oct 25, 2013
Rickey Bobby wrote:
Who knew that 20 years later that Michael Jackson would look more like a zombie in real life than any of the characters in the video. BTW, how would Michael Jackson know what a zombie dances like? Did he meet one before the video was shot? Again, Peters was forced to share the credit with the head zombie.
The video wasn't even his idea. John Landis convinced him of the zombie thing. According to Landis, all MJ wanted to do was "become a monster". The video was basically based off "An American Werewolf in London".
Rickey Bobby

North Kingstown, RI

#10 Oct 26, 2013
BadMan84 wrote:
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The video wasn't even his idea. John Landis convinced him of the zombie thing. According to Landis, all MJ wanted to do was "become a monster". The video was basically based off "An American Werewolf in London".
Thanks for the information. Michael succeeded in becoming a monster pedophile in real life.
Octopus

Schenectady, NY

#13 Oct 27, 2013
I want you back Michael wrote:
<quoted text> the only monster is conrad murray
You need to stop your Jealousy rickey its not
Doing you any good at all.you Just cant be like my Michael.you cant blame Michael its not his fault
Hes a super fit babe..and Genius all you can do is dream you could be more like him.
I Love you sweet Michael Jackson.my angel
Conrad is looking forward to his celebration of lobster and steak on money from the grateful donations of his many supporters. He is also planning a shopping spree to buy his new dress suits for his countless television appearances to talk about the case and his excellent future earnings. Congrats, Dr Conrad Murray!

“Waiting for f'loons to wake up”

Since: Dec 06

Goofybaboon's Not Listening

#14 Oct 27, 2013
Octopus wrote:
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Conrad is looking forward to his celebration of lobster and steak on money from the grateful donations of his many supporters. He is also planning a shopping spree to buy his new dress suits for his countless television appearances to talk about the case and his excellent future earnings. Congrats, Dr Conrad Murray!
Two years goes by fast.

“at yet more f'loonspin”

Since: Aug 11

I live far away from f'loons

#16 Oct 28, 2013
BadMan84 wrote:
For those that don't know, the real choreographer behind "Thriller" wasn't MJ, it was Michael Peters, who was also behind "Beat It". Like the thing with Quincy, Peters was forced to share credit with MJ. If you watched the Making of Thriller footage, it seems like Peters was the one in charge of the whole thing than even MJ was.
Thank you for posting this. I had no idea. Something else that bothers me is the so-called invention of the Moonwalk. When I first moved to San Francisco, in 1980, I saw people doing the backslide, in their dance routines, on the street and in clubs. When somebody said Michael was doing the Moonwalk on the Motown anniversary show, I was very confused because I thought he was just doing the backslide.

Then I learned Caszper Candidate, Cooley Jaxson, and Jeffery Daniel taught him how to backslide. They were respected dancers! I've also seen footage of Bill Bailey backslide.

“at yet more f'loonspin”

Since: Aug 11

I live far away from f'loons

#17 Oct 28, 2013
If any f'loon has doubts about Bill Bailey and the backslide, a.k.a. Moonwalk, here's footage, from YouTube.

Since: Jun 13

Durham, NC

#19 Oct 28, 2013
Len is Disgusted wrote:
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Thank you for posting this. I had no idea. Something else that bothers me is the so-called invention of the Moonwalk. When I first moved to San Francisco, in 1980, I saw people doing the backslide, in their dance routines, on the street and in clubs. When somebody said Michael was doing the Moonwalk on the Motown anniversary show, I was very confused because I thought he was just doing the backslide.
Then I learned Caszper Candidate, Cooley Jaxson, and Jeffery Daniel taught him how to backslide. They were respected dancers! I've also seen footage of Bill Bailey backslide.
Yeah the backslide was a landmark dance in black pop culture going back to at least the 1930s. The modern day backslide was probably pioneered by Bill Bailey and people like Cooley Jackson and Jeffrey Daniel (who went on to musical fame as one-third of Shalamar, an '80s pop-R&B group) modernized it for popular music with Jeffrey not only doing it on "Soul Train" back in 1979 but also on "Top of the Pops" three years later in 1982. Michael coined it the moonwalk due to the fact that when he stopped backsliding, he spun and then went on his little tippy toes but he copied Bob Fosse (see the infamous "Snake in the Grass" dance sequence on YouTube). Michael, being the weirdo he was, claimed he was "inspired by the children doing it" despite the fact that Cooley, Jeffrey and Caszper were grown ass men LOL In fact I think they were all older than Michael lol lots of the old poppers and lockers had beef with Michael for taking full credit for something he didn't originate. Michael also stole the Robot dance move from other dancers who were doing it on "Soul Train" before he did it with his brothers during "Dancing Machine". Michael was never a choreographer and never came up with his own dance moves. Most of the dancing he learned was watching James Brown, Joe Tex, Bob Fosse and the break dancers.

“at yet more f'loonspin”

Since: Aug 11

I live far away from f'loons

#20 Oct 28, 2013
BadMan84 wrote:
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Yeah the backslide was a landmark dance in black pop culture going back to at least the 1930s. The modern day backslide was probably pioneered by Bill Bailey and people like Cooley Jackson and Jeffrey Daniel (who went on to musical fame as one-third of Shalamar, an '80s pop-R&B group) modernized it for popular music with Jeffrey not only doing it on "Soul Train" back in 1979 but also on "Top of the Pops" three years later in 1982. Michael coined it the moonwalk due to the fact that when he stopped backsliding, he spun and then went on his little tippy toes but he copied Bob Fosse (see the infamous "Snake in the Grass" dance sequence on YouTube). Michael, being the weirdo he was, claimed he was "inspired by the children doing it" despite the fact that Cooley, Jeffrey and Caszper were grown ass men LOL In fact I think they were all older than Michael lol lots of the old poppers and lockers had beef with Michael for taking full credit for something he didn't originate. Michael also stole the Robot dance move from other dancers who were doing it on "Soul Train" before he did it with his brothers during "Dancing Machine". Michael was never a choreographer and never came up with his own dance moves. Most of the dancing he learned was watching James Brown, Joe Tex, Bob Fosse and the break dancers.
My god. I just watched this footage of "Snake in the Grass."



It was eerie to see Michael copied everything about Bob Fosse. His hat, gloves, clothes, loafers, socks, his dance moves. Everything. I knew Michael had been influenced by James Brown, Fred Astaire, etc. But I had no idea he "borrowed" so heavily from Bob.

Unbelievable. Did Michael ever mention this?

I do remember being confused when he said he got the idea to "Moonwalk" from street kids. Sure, I saw kids backslide, in San Francisco, but adults were having fun with it, and kids learn by example. But now that I know who went over and taught him, I'm appalled he would say that about grown men and not even name them.

As an fyi, I grew up in L.A. It was common to for people to go onto the dance floor, and do the boogaloo, pop and lock, etc. Surprisingly, I saw people slide across the floor, but for some reason, I never saw the backslide until I moved to San Francisco. I was fond of doing the robot, myself. But I knew where that dance style came from. When I finally saw Michael doing the robot, I assumed that was where he got it or that he got it from James Brown. I didn't know f'loons attributed to him inventing it.

I will say there is one dancer who still leaves me astounded because he was so graceful. Cab Calloway. He was so elegant.
FOREVER MICHAEL

London, UK

#21 Oct 28, 2013
You cant think of anything else to blame Michael for.why dont you go back to your own forum.you must be staying on here for a reason.perhaps its because you really like him.we will always stay true to our hero..and you dont know anything about.Michael. the moonwalk dance actually came
From.children,from black kids who live in thr ghetto.and the inner cities..Michael as never said anything different.he has always said all he did was enhance the dance.

“at yet more f'loonspin”

Since: Aug 11

I live far away from f'loons

#22 Oct 28, 2013
FOREVER MICHAEL wrote:
You cant think of anything else to blame Michael for.why dont you go back to your own forum.you must be staying on here for a reason.perhaps its because you really like him.we will always stay true to our hero..and you dont know anything about.Michael. the moonwalk dance actually came
From.children,from black kids who live in thr ghetto.and the inner cities..Michael as never said anything different.he has always said all he did was enhance the dance.
I like bringing a nice dose of reality to people like you. It's one thing to take a style you're impressed with and then incorporate it into your own dancing. But it's important to name that source. I didn't know Michael so heavily copied Bob Fosse, until BadMan mentioned it. I'm also disappointed Michael said he got the Moonwalk, a.k.a. backslide, from street kids. He should have named the three grown men who personally taught him how to do it.

Since: Jun 13

Durham, NC

#23 Oct 28, 2013
Len is Disgusted wrote:
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My god. I just watched this footage of "Snake in the Grass."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =PsSIwyoKLp0XX
It was eerie to see Michael copied everything about Bob Fosse. His hat, gloves, clothes, loafers, socks, his dance moves. Everything. I knew Michael had been influenced by James Brown, Fred Astaire, etc. But I had no idea he "borrowed" so heavily from Bob.
Unbelievable. Did Michael ever mention this?
I do remember being confused when he said he got the idea to "Moonwalk" from street kids. Sure, I saw kids backslide, in San Francisco, but adults were having fun with it, and kids learn by example. But now that I know who went over and taught him, I'm appalled he would say that about grown men and not even name them.
As an fyi, I grew up in L.A. It was common to for people to go onto the dance floor, and do the boogaloo, pop and lock, etc. Surprisingly, I saw people slide across the floor, but for some reason, I never saw the backslide until I moved to San Francisco. I was fond of doing the robot, myself. But I knew where that dance style came from. When I finally saw Michael doing the robot, I assumed that was where he got it or that he got it from James Brown. I didn't know f'loons attributed to him inventing it.
I will say there is one dancer who still leaves me astounded because he was so graceful. Cab Calloway. He was so elegant.
Cab was doing dance moves while directing the band. That's how bad ass he was lol

As for the Robot, yeah... oddly he never mentioned WHERE he learned that dance. I know he was a big JB fan/admirer and James was doing the Robot all the time when he was performing "Get on the Good Foot", especially on "Soul Train" and other live performances in the '70s. I think some dude named Gene Washington was responsible for that move.

James probably was the one who popularized it for mainstream audiences two years before MJ. MJ's was more like Damita Jo Freeman's Robot. James' was improvised Robot lol

And no MJ never in his life mentioned Fosse. He mentioned James a lot, sometimes Fred Astaire (and that's a big sometimes). But he never mentioned Fosse.
Octopus

Schenectady, NY

#24 Oct 28, 2013
Reality_Awaits wrote:
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Two years goes by fast.
Especially when Dr Conrad Murray murdered the clown and spent only two years in a plush LA county jail supervised by very nice policemen that befriended the gentle and innocent doc. They treated Dr Murray well and tried to make his stay there as comfortable as possible. Thank you for your service to society, Dr Conrad Murray.

“at yet more f'loonspin”

Since: Aug 11

I live far away from f'loons

#27 Oct 29, 2013
BadMan84 wrote:
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Cab was doing dance moves while directing the band. That's how bad ass he was lol
As for the Robot, yeah... oddly he never mentioned WHERE he learned that dance. I know he was a big JB fan/admirer and James was doing the Robot all the time when he was performing "Get on the Good Foot", especially on "Soul Train" and other live performances in the '70s. I think some dude named Gene Washington was responsible for that move.
James probably was the one who popularized it for mainstream audiences two years before MJ. MJ's was more like Damita Jo Freeman's Robot. James' was improvised Robot lol
And no MJ never in his life mentioned Fosse. He mentioned James a lot, sometimes Fred Astaire (and that's a big sometimes). But he never mentioned Fosse.
Cab had those long legs. So, his early versions of boogaloo and sliding were so brilliantly executed while he conducted...and sang! All the while so impeccably dressed in tuxedos. If you can find footage of him, it's quite a treat.

So many of Michael's early dance routines were so directly impacted by James Brown, I don't think he could have avoided naming him as a source of influence. But it's shameful he never mentioned Bob Fosse, given how much he was a surgically enhanced version of Bob. It's also a shame he never gave credit to Cooley, Caszper, and Jeffery...as well as the Electric Boogaloos.

As an aside, there is footage somebody put together, showing the history of backsliding, a.k.a., Moonwalk. Did Michael actually name these people? I think his contemporaries were too much of a professional threat. But these were the original innovators, at least the ones who were filmed when the motion-era began. Cab is one of the people in the video.

Since: Jun 13

Durham, NC

#28 Oct 29, 2013
Len is Disgusted wrote:
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Cab had those long legs. So, his early versions of boogaloo and sliding were so brilliantly executed while he conducted...and sang! All the while so impeccably dressed in tuxedos. If you can find footage of him, it's quite a treat.
So many of Michael's early dance routines were so directly impacted by James Brown, I don't think he could have avoided naming him as a source of influence. But it's shameful he never mentioned Bob Fosse, given how much he was a surgically enhanced version of Bob. It's also a shame he never gave credit to Cooley, Caszper, and Jeffery...as well as the Electric Boogaloos.
As an aside, there is footage somebody put together, showing the history of backsliding, a.k.a., Moonwalk. Did Michael actually name these people? I think his contemporaries were too much of a professional threat. But these were the original innovators, at least the ones who were filmed when the motion-era began. Cab is one of the people in the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =LDq23yPrNvQXX
He mentioned Sammy Davis, Jr.(in the video) as one of his influences but I don't think he mentioned anyone else in it.

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