Autopsy shows MJ was underweight at time of death

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Since: Jun 13

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#1 Jul 23, 2013
I was just calculating the body mass of someone who was 169 inches tall (5'9) and 136 lbs for a male and it resulted in "underweight", which beckons the question: why did the autopsy report state MJ was a "healthy 50-year-old male"? People who are 50 years old, 5'9 and weigh only that much are not healthy people at all. The paramedic who arrived at MJ's house after 911 was called stated that MJ was so emaciated that he could see MJ's ribcage. During this trial, a lot of people have testified that MJ was not eating and Frank DiLeo had told people to "give Michael a hamburger" because he was concerned about MJ's health. I've seen photos of MJ at the rehearsal, the clothes didn't even fit him, he looked like a little kid wearing big man's clothes! No way was this dude "healthy" at the time of his death. I'm thinking someone influence the coroner's decision. Dude had chronic lung inflammation, respiratory bronchitis, diffuse congestion and patchy hemorrhage of both his lungs as well as all those drugs found in his system.

And guess what I was reading the autopsy file, there was nowhere where it said MJ was "healthy" just that he "died unexpectedly", which doesn't equal "healthy". Clearly he needed to eat but he didn't want to.

I also think MJ died from the drugs that were in his system and no propofol was ever injected. The drugs just slowly killed him. Murray gave him those benzo drugs, which I always believed was the catalyst into why MJ died, not propofol. I also found it interesting that when you scroll further down, there's mention of cocaine, marijuana and barbiturates. Though those drugs weren't found in his system, they did list them in investigation of MJ...

Here's the full fledged autopsy report:
http://www.autopsyfiles.org/reports/Celebs/ja...

Only raises questions than answers also about what contributed his death. They claim that MJ didn't inject propofol but there's nothing to suggest that the propofol was injected by Murray shortly before his death. It seems to me MJ was complaining about dehydration after being given those other pills and went into another room where he went into cardiac arrest shortly afterwards so it seemed his heart gave out from the drugs. This reminds me of the Elvis autopsy and how they messed that up. They claimed Elvis died of cardiac arrhythmia but it always sounded like Elvis died similar to how MJ died: he went into cardiac arrest from the effect of the drugs he used prior to his death.

Since: Jun 13

Durham, NC

#3 Jul 23, 2013
I have to correct myself on the height, it's 69 inches for 5'9 but it still stands. Dude was a drug addict that was slowly dying from overdosing whether it was from his hand or Murray's, it really don't matter. The homicide case was weak at best. There was no way they could tell that it was homicide. And MJ's far from the only celebrity whose drug-related death was judged like that. They almost wanted to bring homicide charges against Whitney Houston's drug dealers because some folks were "suspicious" but they had to let it go because of "lack of evidence". This is what they should've done with Michael imho.

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#4 Jul 23, 2013
BadMan84 wrote:
I have to correct myself on the height, it's 69 inches for 5'9 but it still stands. Dude was a drug addict that was slowly dying from overdosing whether it was from his hand or Murray's, it really don't matter. The homicide case was weak at best. There was no way they could tell that it was homicide. And MJ's far from the only celebrity whose drug-related death was judged like that. They almost wanted to bring homicide charges against Whitney Houston's drug dealers because some folks were "suspicious" but they had to let it go because of "lack of evidence". This is what they should've done with Michael imho.
The paid "expert" that the Jackson's brought in during their extortion attempt against AEG claimed that Michael Jackson wasn't a drug addict but dependent on drugs for legitimate reasons,(i.e. his scalp injury). They seem to forget though that Pedo Pan used multiple fake identities to purchase drugs. People who have legitimate reasons to use drugs for any reason don't have to resort to such illegal methods. If he was in pain or had sleeping problems then appropriate drugs would have been prescribed to him in his name. He used fake identities because he was a full-blown and hard-core drug addict who just had to have his fix.

Since: Jun 13

Durham, NC

#5 Jul 23, 2013
Butterballs wrote:
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The paid "expert" that the Jackson's brought in during their extortion attempt against AEG claimed that Michael Jackson wasn't a drug addict but dependent on drugs for legitimate reasons,(i.e. his scalp injury). They seem to forget though that Pedo Pan used multiple fake identities to purchase drugs. People who have legitimate reasons to use drugs for any reason don't have to resort to such illegal methods. If he was in pain or had sleeping problems then appropriate drugs would have been prescribed to him in his name. He used fake identities because he was a full-blown and hard-core drug addict who just had to have his fix.
Yeah the expert. All that proof and yet we're supposed to believe he used drugs for legitimate reasons? No he didn't.

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#6 Jul 23, 2013
In the book "The Sudden Death of Michael Jackson" the author, Andrew Dolan, says Michael Jackson survived on a steady diet of granola bars with an occasional full meal. Jackson resembled an anorexic.

Since: Jun 13

Durham, NC

#7 Jul 23, 2013
TripleH1976 wrote:
In the book "The Sudden Death of Michael Jackson" the author, Andrew Dolan, says Michael Jackson survived on a steady diet of granola bars with an occasional full meal. Jackson resembled an anorexic.
That's all he ate? Wow.

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Since: May 13

Canada

#8 Jul 23, 2013
BadMan84 wrote:
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That's all he ate? Wow.
Yes, if you an Apple ID and their iTunes music player software you can buy the book from their iTunes Store for $5, then download it to an iPhone or iPad and read it anytime you want. Very revealing book, I finished it in one day.

Since: Jun 13

Durham, NC

#9 Jul 23, 2013
TripleH1976 wrote:
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Yes, if you an Apple ID and their iTunes music player software you can buy the book from their iTunes Store for $5, then download it to an iPhone or iPad and read it anytime you want. Very revealing book, I finished it in one day.
Interesting... I might get it at a local book store if it's there.

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#10 Jul 24, 2013
BadMan84 wrote:
I was just calculating the body mass of someone who was 169 inches tall (5'9) and 136 lbs for a male and it resulted in "underweight", which beckons the question: why did the autopsy report state MJ was a "healthy 50-year-old male"? People who are 50 years old, 5'9 and weigh only that much are not healthy people at all. The paramedic who arrived at MJ's house after 911 was called stated that MJ was so emaciated that he could see MJ's ribcage. During this trial, a lot of people have testified that MJ was not eating and Frank DiLeo had told people to "give Michael a hamburger" because he was concerned about MJ's health. I've seen photos of MJ at the rehearsal, the clothes didn't even fit him, he looked like a little kid wearing big man's clothes! No way was this dude "healthy" at the time of his death. I'm thinking someone influence the coroner's decision. Dude had chronic lung inflammation, respiratory bronchitis, diffuse congestion and patchy hemorrhage of both his lungs as well as all those drugs found in his system.
And guess what I was reading the autopsy file, there was nowhere where it said MJ was "healthy" just that he "died unexpectedly", which doesn't equal "healthy". Clearly he needed to eat but he didn't want to.
I also think MJ died from the drugs that were in his system and no propofol was ever injected. The drugs just slowly killed him. Murray gave him those benzo drugs, which I always believed was the catalyst into why MJ died, not propofol. I also found it interesting that when you scroll further down, there's mention of cocaine, marijuana and barbiturates. Though those drugs weren't found in his system, they did list them in investigation of MJ...
Here's the full fledged autopsy report:
http://www.autopsyfiles.org/reports/Celebs/ja...
Only raises questions than answers also about what contributed his death. They claim that MJ didn't inject propofol but there's nothing to suggest that the propofol was injected by Murray shortly before his death. It seems to me MJ was complaining about dehydration after being given those other pills and went into another room where he went into cardiac arrest shortly afterwards so it seemed his heart gave out from the drugs. This reminds me of the Elvis autopsy and how they messed that up. They claimed Elvis died of cardiac arrhythmia but it always sounded like Elvis died similar to how MJ died: he went into cardiac arrest from the effect of the drugs he used prior to his death.
Agreed, MJ had a handful of different benzos in his system which on it's own cause cardiac arrest. Never understood why he would want to take so many different sedating drugs in high levels- why so many is beyond me, let alone topping it off with surgical anesthesia, and of course narcotics. He insisted on this cocktail of drugs and sought out a doctor who was wiling to give it to him. Most would never prescribe this insane mixture, it's playing with fire and obviously killed him- which was bound to happen given the combo. Murray should have never given him a fraction of this stuff but what fans need to remember is that MJ begged him to do so. Most doctors would say hell no, knowing the extreme risk of death. Murray did it for the paycheck and notoriety of being MJ's personal doctor and he was hired by MJ!!! Considering his serious drug addiction, there's no way MJ was going to allow an AEG chosen dr to treat him, he knew he'd have been cut off. This is what drug addicts do, obsess over how they'll get their fix. This BS case is so transparent, shame on Katherine Jackson for trying to blame her son's longtime, obvious drug addiction on AEG- all to get money she sure as hell don't deserve. Even worse she's dragged the kids into it, yet another reason she doesn't deserve to be raising them. She wants the money, as usual. Can't stand that woman!

Since: Jun 13

Durham, NC

#11 Jul 24, 2013
MJisGUILTY wrote:
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Agreed, MJ had a handful of different benzos in his system which on it's own cause cardiac arrest. Never understood why he would want to take so many different sedating drugs in high levels- why so many is beyond me, let alone topping it off with surgical anesthesia, and of course narcotics. He insisted on this cocktail of drugs and sought out a doctor who was wiling to give it to him. Most would never prescribe this insane mixture, it's playing with fire and obviously killed him- which was bound to happen given the combo. Murray should have never given him a fraction of this stuff but what fans need to remember is that MJ begged him to do so. Most doctors would say hell no, knowing the extreme risk of death. Murray did it for the paycheck and notoriety of being MJ's personal doctor and he was hired by MJ!!! Considering his serious drug addiction, there's no way MJ was going to allow an AEG chosen dr to treat him, he knew he'd have been cut off. This is what drug addicts do, obsess over how they'll get their fix. This BS case is so transparent, shame on Katherine Jackson for trying to blame her son's longtime, obvious drug addiction on AEG- all to get money she sure as hell don't deserve. Even worse she's dragged the kids into it, yet another reason she doesn't deserve to be raising them. She wants the money, as usual. Can't stand that woman!
Right. The man begged for all this stuff. MJ conned Murray with that friendship tag and he couldn't resist his demands no matter how much he tried. Not shocked he got cardiac arrest from all that stuff in him. It was a slow and agonizing death. He was too dehydrated by then for anyone to inject anything in him. He was still under the influence of propofol when he got those pills inside him which Murray thought would finally get him to sleep. He was right...for the wrong reasons. He went into a long sleep and never again woke up.

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#12 Jul 24, 2013
BadMan84 wrote:
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Right. The man begged for all this stuff. MJ conned Murray with that friendship tag and he couldn't resist his demands no matter how much he tried. Not shocked he got cardiac arrest from all that stuff in him. It was a slow and agonizing death. He was too dehydrated by then for anyone to inject anything in him. He was still under the influence of propofol when he got those pills inside him which Murray thought would finally get him to sleep. He was right...for the wrong reasons. He went into a long sleep and never again woke up.
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Exactly. MJ was not a victim of anyone but himself. F'loons obviously don't know anything about child molesters and the effects abuse has on victims, but also nothing about the effects of multiple drug toxicity. Too bad they don't research into it instead of wasting their own damn time defending MJ's CHOICES!!! Yes, he begged for this stuff himself, thus causing his own death!

Since: Jun 13

Durham, NC

#13 Jul 24, 2013
MJisGUILTY wrote:
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Exactly. MJ was not a victim of anyone but himself. F'loons obviously don't know anything about child molesters and the effects abuse has on victims, but also nothing about the effects of multiple drug toxicity. Too bad they don't research into it instead of wasting their own damn time defending MJ's CHOICES!!! Yes, he begged for this stuff himself, thus causing his own death!
They get told how to feel, I think. They don't get told to read into information, just what they think they know.

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Since: May 13

Canada

#14 Jul 25, 2013
MJisGUILTY wrote:
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Exactly. MJ was not a victim of anyone but himself. F'loons obviously don't know anything about child molesters and the effects abuse has on victims, but also nothing about the effects of multiple drug toxicity. Too bad they don't research into it instead of wasting their own damn time defending MJ's CHOICES!!! Yes, he begged for this stuff himself, thus causing his own death!
By poor health alone he was slowly dying. The drugs simply hasten his death.

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Since: May 13

Canada

#15 Jul 25, 2013
Butterballs wrote:
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The paid "expert" that the Jackson's brought in during their extortion attempt against AEG claimed that Michael Jackson wasn't a drug addict but dependent on drugs for legitimate reasons,(i.e. his scalp injury). They seem to forget though that Pedo Pan used multiple fake identities to purchase drugs. People who have legitimate reasons to use drugs for any reason don't have to resort to such illegal methods. If he was in pain or had sleeping problems then appropriate drugs would have been prescribed to him in his name. He used fake identities because he was a full-blown and hard-core drug addict who just had to have his fix.
A f'loon told me MJ used different names to get drugs, because if he used his real name the paparazzi would pursue his worthless azz. lol

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#16 Jul 25, 2013
TripleH1976 wrote:
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A f'loon told me MJ used different names to get drugs, because if he used his real name the paparazzi would pursue his worthless azz. lol
f'loons are idiots! The paparazzi isn't privy to pharmacy records. MJ used different names to get more drugs!!! That's what doctor shoppers do. f'loons are such morons who've lost common sense. Pharmacies don't just hand out prescription info to anybody but doctors, other pharmacists and law enforcement!

Since: Jun 13

Durham, NC

#17 Jul 25, 2013
TripleH1976 wrote:
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By poor health alone he was slowly dying. The drugs simply hasten his death.
I don't know why I didn't notice this before but the same expert that claimed MJ was "healthy" during the trial said the same thing after the coroner completed his autopsy on MJ. A 50-year-old man weighing only 69 inches and 136 pounds was is definitely unhealthy.

Since: Jun 13

Durham, NC

#18 Jul 25, 2013
MJisGUILTY wrote:
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f'loons are idiots! The paparazzi isn't privy to pharmacy records. MJ used different names to get more drugs!!! That's what doctor shoppers do. f'loons are such morons who've lost common sense. Pharmacies don't just hand out prescription info to anybody but doctors, other pharmacists and law enforcement!
Everything MJ does they think was exempt from everyone else... it never was. MJ acted just like any drug addict. I think Elvis did the same thing.

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#19 Jul 25, 2013
BadMan84 wrote:
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Everything MJ does they think was exempt from everyone else... it never was. MJ acted just like any drug addict. I think Elvis did the same thing.
Right on, I mean we've all been handed those annoying HIPPA forms every time we go to a new doctor or pharmacy. It's Federal law! No way could a paparazzi call a pharmacy and get the info. Other pharmacists and doctors have ID numbers they must verify before giving any info to them, and law enforcement would have to come in person with ID. MJ was no different! F'loons just aren't thinking realistically.

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#20 Jul 25, 2013
MJisGUILTY wrote:
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Right on, I mean we've all been handed those annoying HIPPA forms every time we go to a new doctor or pharmacy. It's Federal law! No way could a paparazzi call a pharmacy and get the info. Other pharmacists and doctors have ID numbers they must verify before giving any info to them, and law enforcement would have to come in person with ID. MJ was no different! F'loons just aren't thinking realistically.
F'loons don't think. They parrot the WackoGanda, already fundamentally flawed. No surprise, since they bought MJ's lies about the reason his kids wore masks 24/7/365.
Avoiding paparazzi? More like begging for paparazzi.

As for the multiple names on prescriptions...
Jacko was an addict hiding from federal law.

It all rides on their magical belief system that MJ wasn't the cause of *any* of MJ's problems. So of course, f'loons will delude themselves and disregard plausible theories. If the sun is shining down on them, they'll insist it's night.

That's just how they are.

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#21 Jul 25, 2013
Reality_Awaits wrote:
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F'loons don't think. They parrot the WackoGanda, already fundamentally flawed. No surprise, since they bought MJ's lies about the reason his kids wore masks 24/7/365.
Avoiding paparazzi? More like begging for paparazzi.
As for the multiple names on prescriptions...
Jacko was an addict hiding from federal law.
It all rides on their magical belief system that MJ wasn't the cause of *any* of MJ's problems. So of course, f'loons will delude themselves and disregard plausible theories. If the sun is shining down on them, they'll insist it's night.
That's just how they are.
Exactly! Plenty of celebrities keep their kids out of the limelight without wearing those ridiculous masks! MJ did that FOR ATTENTION! He sought out the media attention he, in turn, blamed everything on. It went on since the early 80's at least! How else would the media get pics of MJ in that weird oxygen chamber or whatever it was, and that was just the beginning! F'loons ignore so many facts and completely dodge reality, it's heinous and comical.

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