Visions of Peace
Stand Up For Peace

United States

#581 Jan 15, 2014
Len is Disgusted wrote:
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KJ, I asked you why you are here. I didn't say go away. I just want an answer as to why you are here.
I originally came to this forum to argue with people, same as you. My 1st impression of Internet forums was that they were a place for people to give their opinions about social issues. Nobody cared about "my feelings" if I didn't like what they had to say. Now... here you are, telling me I should care about yours.

We should be able to speak freely without people (Like you) over-reacting to what's being said. If a particular discussion in a forum is too disturbing for you, then Y-O-U shouldn't be here!! I shouldn't have to tiptoe around a subject to protect your poor, tender feelings. That isn't what forums are for!

After locking horns with MJ fans for years, it occurs to me that it's a dead end. They won't listen to me and most of them don't think it's even important if I understand what they're saying. In the end, the only thing that matters is how we conduct our lives. If MJ inspires his fans to go out and make this world a better place, that's good enough for me. However, if they think they need to wage war on anyone that doesn't love MJ as much as they do, I may give them the other side of this debate.

I'm just sick of calling them nasty names and insulting them for their beliefs. I'd rather try to persuade them to stop arguing about things we will never agree on.

If that antagonizes you... GOOD!!
Stand Up For Peace

United States

#582 Jan 15, 2014
At the same time, if me stating my opinions on the AJ/MB case causes you grievous anxiety, that’s YOUR problem!!

I have never been as callous as you loudmouths make me out to be! I have NEVER made fun of it, like Jina says, nor have I acted like I’ve gotten some kind of sick thrill thinking about the torture of children, like NFL Fan says!!

I just happen to think that Bridger got a raw deal and should be allowed to appeal.... so hopefully, his punishment will fit his crimes!

Again, if that antagonizes you….TOO BAD!!
Stand Up For Peace

United States

#583 Jan 15, 2014
I'd like to talk about the Russian band, "Pyssy Riot" for a minute. sp?

On February 21, 2012, as part of a protest movement against the re-election of Vladimir Putin, five women from the group entered the Cathedral of Christ the Savior of the Russian Orthodox Church in Moscow. There was no church service in session at the time, and only a few people were in the cathedral. Removing their winter clothes, they put on colorful balaclavas,(ski masks) walked up the steps leading to the altar, and began to jump around, punching the air. After less than a minute, they were escorted outside the building by guards. Film of the performance was later combined with footage shot at a different church, to create a video clip for the song, which they entitled "Punk Prayer: Mother of God Drive Putin Away".

Their lyrical themes include feminism, LGBT rights,(lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender) but what got them into the most trouble was their opposition to the policies of Russian President Vladimir Putin, whom they regard as a dictator and the leadership of the Russian Orthodox Church.

They "performed" less than a minute before church security threw them off the property. This might not have happened had they played good, Russian music but THEY'RE A PUNK ROCK BAND, one of the most "in yer face" kind of rock-n-roll there is!!

The funny part is that they weren't arrested at first. Security just gave them the boot. Later, the Orthodox Church called on the government to criminalize blasphemy. On February 26, a criminal case was opened against the band members who had participated. On March 3, Maria Alyokhina and Nadezhda Tolokonnikova, two alleged members of Pyssy Riot, were arrested by the Russian authorities and accused of HOOLIGANISM WITH ANTI-RELIGIOUS MOTIVES!!

These evil monsters were held without bail for expressing themselves (loudly) in public!!!

MY KINDA WOMEN!!

POWER TO THE PEOPLE!!
Stand Up For Peace

United States

#584 Jan 15, 2014
Eventually, they let the one that apologized go and sentenced the other two to 2 YEARS IN PRISON!! Some of these women had children!!

This sort of thing goes against what the USA stands for. Here, they would have either gotten fined for disturbing the peace or if it did go to trial, probably would've gotten let go with a firm tongue lashing!

Madonna dedicated a song to them in concert and had "Free Pyssy Riot" printed across her back.

THIS IS THE KINDA STUFF THAT MATTERS, PEOPLE!!!

Not whether we all share the same brain about a deceased pop star!!

MICHAEL JACKSON IS DEAD and just cuz his fans think he's better than the rest of us doesn't mean its gonna go down in the history books that way!!

LET'S MOVE ON, HEY???
Octopus

Albany, NY

#586 Feb 19, 2014
Subliminal Criminal wrote:
Ono, I hope you are ok, if not I'm sorry I never acknowledged your apology. I didn't suspect time would be against it.
But don't worry, I will continue your crusade against bullies and cyber stalkers who make death threats.
Even though I disagreed with your reasoning about MJ, and when you would sometimes go all spammy, I still found you a decent human.
And if anything is suspicious about your death, I will make sure the authorities take a hard look at that unhinged death threating freak who calls itself Jina Wild.
Amen.
Kracker can not read your posts anymore, dude.

Do you always talk to dead people?

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#587 Feb 19, 2014
Octopus wrote:
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Kracker can not read your posts anymore, dude.
Do you always talk to dead people?
Maybe he's like this little boy (and Smilemj):

http://youtu.be/ZSNyiSetZ8Y

“Waiting for f'loons to wake up”

Since: Dec 06

Goofybaboon's Not Listening

#588 Feb 19, 2014
Subliminal Criminal wrote:
Ono, I hope you are ok, if not I'm sorry I never acknowledged your apology. I didn't suspect time would be against it.
But don't worry, I will continue your crusade against bullies and cyber stalkers who make death threats.
Even though I disagreed with your reasoning about MJ, and when you would sometimes go all spammy, I still found you a decent human.
And if anything is suspicious about your death, I will make sure the authorities take a hard look at that unhinged death threating freak who calls itself Jina Wild.
Amen.
No coinkydoink whatsoever...

Talking to dead people on a messageboard,... methinks the family may find YOU unhinged by what a little birdie may tell them... Hmm.

“Waiting for f'loons to wake up”

Since: Dec 06

Goofybaboon's Not Listening

#589 Feb 19, 2014
Yes subhuman screwball, you might want to make yourself scarce from posting on this forum any more.

What an unhinged dingbat of a littleman you turned out to be.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#590 Feb 19, 2014
Octopus wrote:
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Kracker can not read your posts anymore, dude.
Do you always talk to dead people?
He feels bad...please leave him be.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#592 Feb 19, 2014
Subliminal Criminal wrote:
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These inhuman gutter rats will never understand basic human compassion, thats why they are here in the first place. They thrive on misery, take joy in death, and laugh at things outside their own understanding, which forever keeps them stuck at a low consciousness level.
These people don't really hate Michael Jackson for what they thought he did, they hate him for bring loved. They hate love because they don 't have the capacity to love, and that missing emotion is only filled with anger, and there is not enough hate in the universe to compensate for their own missing love inside of their souls.
Ono was never like them, thats why he fought all of them.
I will miss his spirit.
You are so right. That is the difference between good and evil. I will miss his spirit and his humor.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#593 Feb 19, 2014
Reality_Awaits wrote:
Yes subhuman screwball, you might want to make yourself scarce from posting on this forum any more.
What an unhinged dingbat of a littleman you turned out to be.
Why don't you leave. Your posts make no sense. Go back to your crypt...shut the lid and I will come and nail it shut.
Octopus

Albany, NY

#594 Feb 19, 2014
Jermaine 7 wrote:
<quoted text>He feels bad...please leave him be.
I feel bad that you are upset about Kracker, Jermaine.

The man probably died of a heart attack because of his out there and high strung nature. But death will happen to us all someday. Kracker was rude and crude at times and I guess you saw something about him that I missed. I do not think its funny or anything like that but it makes me wonder what kind of karma awaits Kracker for his disgusting posts about April Jones and her family. She was an innocent little girl and Kracker should not have said the terrible things he said about her death.
Octopus

Albany, NY

#595 Feb 19, 2014
Pop Tart- wrote:
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Maybe he's like this little boy (and Smilemj):
http://youtu.be/ZSNyiSetZ8Y
I think we have that movie.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#596 Feb 19, 2014
Octopus wrote:
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I feel bad that you are upset about Kracker, Jermaine.
The man probably died of a heart attack because of his out there and high strung nature. But death will happen to us all someday. Kracker was rude and crude at times and I guess you saw something about him that I missed. I do not think its funny or anything like that but it makes me wonder what kind of karma awaits Kracker for his disgusting posts about April Jones and her family. She was an innocent little girl and Kracker should not have said the terrible things he said about her death.
I feel upset. He was not a bad person. I try to see good in everyone, though I do believe that some people are evil. What I saw in Kracker was compassion and a willingness to try and make things peaceful. He would try to do that on this forum but then somebody would upset him and call his wife a name and it hurt him...so he would lash out bout the child that was murdered. I guess I understand that cause I react like that too. I told him that I thought it was wrong. I liked his humor and the way he said just what he thought. I know I learned some things from him.
Octopus

Albany, NY

#597 Feb 19, 2014
Jermaine 7 wrote:
<quoted text>I feel upset. He was not a bad person. I try to see good in everyone, though I do believe that some people are evil. What I saw in Kracker was compassion and a willingness to try and make things peaceful. He would try to do that on this forum but then somebody would upset him and call his wife a name and it hurt him...so he would lash out bout the child that was murdered. I guess I understand that cause I react like that too. I told him that I thought it was wrong. I liked his humor and the way he said just what he thought. I know I learned some things from him.
If you feel that way, who am I to tell you any different?

I had a couple of pleasant converstions with Kracker but for the most part, he liked to seek revenge against certain people. April Jones and her family were just Jina's friends. Kracker went too far at times when he should have known better. It was just bad karma to speak the way that he did about an innocent child's family that did nothing to him. Just saying.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#599 Feb 19, 2014
Octopus wrote:
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If you feel that way, who am I to tell you any different?
I had a couple of pleasant converstions with Kracker but for the most part, he liked to seek revenge against certain people. April Jones and her family were just Jina's friends. Kracker went too far at times when he should have known better. It was just bad karma to speak the way that he did about an innocent child's family that did nothing to him. Just saying.
He did it for revenge. He would tell Jina and Nfl..and poptart if they insulted his wife that he would post bout the child. Then one of them would and he would start...didn't make it right. It was a vicious circle that had no end. Now it is ended.

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#600 Feb 19, 2014
Jermaine 7 wrote:
<quoted text>I feel upset. He was not a bad person. I try to see good in everyone, though I do believe that some people are evil. What I saw in Kracker was compassion and a willingness to try and make things peaceful. He would try to do that on this forum but then somebody would upset him and call his wife a name and it hurt him...so he would lash out bout the child that was murdered. I guess I understand that cause I react like that too. I told him that I thought it was wrong. I liked his humor and the way he said just what he thought. I know I learned some things from him.
I'm sorry about Kracker's death - I wouldn't wish that on anyone and he was fairly young. I feel bad for his wife and his family. It's always hard to lose someone.

However, you saw Kracker as someone trying to keep the peace. I saw him quite differently, as you can imagine. I saw him as someone who loved to stir things up and loved to argue with certain people, myself included.

He and I began our battle when I stood up against him as he mocked a poor deceased little girl and her family, while he sided with the murderer. I was called all sorts of names because I disagreed with him. I agree with Octo that he did go too far on a consistent basis and should have known better. I'm glad you told him it was wrong, too.

“Waiting for f'loons to wake up”

Since: Dec 06

Goofybaboon's Not Listening

#601 Feb 19, 2014
Jermaine 7 wrote:
<quoted text>Why don't {SLAP}.
... lighten up, Francis.

Do you always have to be the wipee, like a wad of TP?

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#602 Feb 19, 2014
Octopus wrote:
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I think we have that movie.
It's one of my faves.:-)

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#603 Feb 19, 2014
Pop Tart- wrote:
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I'm sorry about Kracker's death - I wouldn't wish that on anyone and he was fairly young. I feel bad for his wife and his family. It's always hard to lose someone.
However, you saw Kracker as someone trying to keep the peace. I saw him quite differently, as you can imagine. I saw him as someone who loved to stir things up and loved to argue with certain people, myself included.
He and I began our battle when I stood up against him as he mocked a poor deceased little girl and her family, while he sided with the murderer. I was called all sorts of names because I disagreed with him. I agree with Octo that he did go too far on a consistent basis and should have known better. I'm glad you told him it was wrong, too.
I did tell him it was wrong and to stop it but he was really hurt when his wife was laughed at. He loved her and now she is probably grieving and her life will never be the same cause that is how it is when someone you love dies.

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