Visions of Peace

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BullyBully2

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How about Bob Jones???

Bob Jones was Jackson’s ex-manager, long term publicist and vice president of communication for MJJ Productions. Jackson callously fired Jones following 17 years of dedication to the pop star’s career. The 70-year-old man was given the boot, without the vacation or severance pay he had coming and ends up on Welfare. Michael Jackson was exterminating the people closet to him so he can afford his self-indulgent lifestyle!

That's when Jones teamed up with Stacy Brown,(Long time associate of the Jackson clan) to publish “MICHAEL JACKSON: The Man Behind the Mask." He was there when thousands of cameras caught the image of 13 year old Jordan Chandler, dressed identically and sitting on the lap of a positively giddy MJ at the World Music Awards in Monaco.

Michael simply handed Jordie's mother one of his credit cards and sent her and her daughter on a lavish spending spree in Italy, enabling Michael to get Jordan alone in their hotel suite. Jones recalls that Michael and Jordan remained walled up in their room all day and night. Jordan refers to this period as their “honeymoon!"

“Michael had a sinister gift for determining which of the many children he came into contact with might be “woo-able” and whose parents could be bought off. Michael’s wooing of a young boy was embarrassing: the cooing, the hugging and holding hands. Michael Jackson and this little boy were, I dare say, in love.”

ALL BIG FAT LIARS, RIGHT????
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Shall I continue?
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You fans aren't winning this debate by any stretch of the imagination!!

But don't let that stop you, right??

The only thing you goons have going for you is that MJ is still bringing in money!!

I believe it’s inevitable that the day will arrive when it won’t be cost effective to keep this issue under wraps any longer and nothing will stop the truth from tumbling out.

I hope to be there when it does!
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BullyBully2 wrote:
<quoted text>Of course, the real irony here is that all this ridiculous bickering is unnecessary. I made it clear from the start that the purpose of thread isn't to be yet another place to fight over MJ's innocence but MJ fans think it's their duty to fight about it.
Actually, the real irony here is you don't realize how delusional you are about any of this.

In the second paragraph of your first post on this so called thread of peace, you attack MJ and his fans by making the claim he wasn't a real humanitarian, and claim millions of fans irrationally call non fans haters - when in reality, fans call people who spread lies and directly insult them haters, because its a statement of fact.
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<quoted text>Millions of MJ fans call anyone that doesn’t love Michael Jackson the way they do “haters.” To them, Jackson is the image of a real life humanitarian. Why? Because he donated money to charity and sang about “Healing the World” with his love for children.
This is your vision of peace, and it is simply an attack on MJ and his fans. You can't have peace and insult people in the very same breath... To believe you can is delusional.

This is not what Lennon meant when he asked us to give peace a chance.
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BullyBully2 wrote:
You fans aren't winning this debate by any stretch of the imagination!!
But don't let that stop you, right??
The only thing you goons have going for you is that MJ is still bringing in money!!
I believe it’s inevitable that the day will arrive when it won’t be cost effective to keep this issue under wraps any longer and nothing will stop the truth from tumbling out.
I hope to be there when it does!
How do you imagine we can win in a place that deletes only pro-MJ information and leaves posts of idiots and people who make death threats?
Notice your posts stay? Because their agenda is your agenda.
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Top Mod 8 AKA An NFL Fan, who moderates this forum, just don't like me.
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Subliminal Deletions wrote:
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Actually, the real irony here is you don't realize how delusional you are about any of this.
In the second paragraph of your first post on this so called thread of peace, you attack MJ and his fans by making the claim he wasn't a real humanitarian, and claim millions of fans irrationally call non fans haters - when in reality, fans call people who spread lies and directly insult them haters, because its a statement of fact.
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This is your vision of peace, and it is simply an attack on MJ and his fans. You can't have peace and insult people in the very same breath... To believe you can is delusional.
This is not what Lennon meant when he asked us to give peace a chance.
You fans won't let this be a peaceful thread!! You wanna keep arguing about MJ!!

In 2006, California Department of Labor fined Jackson $169,000 for failure to cover his workers’ employment insurance. He pays up, plus pays an extra $306,000 in back pay.“In addition to the wage related penalties, we will be calculating and collecting the exact amount due the state for Mr. Jackson’s failure to have required workers’ compensation insurance coverage for his employees.”- Robert Jones (Acting California labor commissioner.)

This awesome humanitarian made the state of California fine him for refusing to pay his employee’s employment insurance! He had to pay back pay, plus a fine. Big bucks Michael Jackson didn’t care if his employees had health insurance!

Do you want the web address for this SC, or do you just wanna keep bitching about how I only think what the tabloids tell me to think????

Everything I've posted about MJ is THE TRUTH and you can't sweep them under the rug by sticking your fingers into your ears and shouting, "La La La La La.... Can't hear you!!"
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MJ FANS ARE IN LOVE WITH AN IMAGE!!

Most of MJ’s ambassador of goodwill image rests on a handful of things he did, mostly during the mid-80s!

Jackson started out OK, but he evolved into a friggin’ MONSTER!!
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This thread has reached it's conclusion as far as I’m concerned.

Let it stand as a testament to how MJ fans are the real “haters.”

No matter how many times I tried to change the subject and concentrate on far more worthy humanitarians than MJ ever was, his fans would not let up.

MJ fans believe that it’s their duty to continue promoting hatred in MJ’s name.

So be it.

Frankly, I'm bored with the subject.
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If you want to make peace with your enemy, you have to work with your enemy. Then he becomes your partner.

- Nelson Mandela

MJ fans couldn't take a day off from their relentless bitching to even acknowledge the life and death of this man!

Pretty pathetic.
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Academy Award winning actor Clint Eastwood told GQ magazine, "The U.S. is becoming more juvenile as a nation. The guys who won World War II and that whole generation have disappeared, and now we have a bunch of teenage twits."

YEAH, you go kids! The hell with real heroes! The only thing sacred to the MTV soaked mental midgets of today is fame and money! It doesn't matter what you do anymore, it's all about how good you look doing it!

Heaven help us.
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In the second paragraph of your first post on this so called thread of peace, you attack MJ and his fans by making the claim he wasn't a real humanitarian, and claim millions of fans irrationally call non fans haters - when in reality, fans call people who spread lies and directly insult them haters, because its a statement of fact.
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No, Jackson is an example of a real humanitarian because he gave his time, money, and effort to causes he believed in, and you can't ask anyone to do more than that.
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Your agenda has been the same here since day one - repeat lies, cause misery, and push your point of view and avoid learning because you are incapable of it. You can't even answer the simplest of questions because you are a child of propaganda and know nothing else.
Monkey see, monkey do.
The only thing you have shown in this thread is your own ignorance, bias, and inability to learn just like every hater here.
If I shared beliefs with scumbags like Jina the Death Threater, or Disgustingly Obsessive Len, or Top Mod 8, I would seriously look at those beliefs to see if I was wrong. But not you, no, you are to stupid to be that self aware.
You can't even see how systematically Topix, or the media, promotes these unthinking ideas that have shaped you into the idiot you are today, and for that I feel truly sorry for you.
More bullshit!

I wrote in my second paragraph, "MJ fans will never convince the whole world that a guy that didn’t care if the public approved of his jaded lifestyle that he’s some kind of a saint!"

This is THE TRUTH!! If the truth causes you misery, that's YOUR problem!!

Then I write, "The trap you fans keep falling into is when you think the whole world should honor MJ as the glorious humanitarian YOU think he is. If he was truly a man of peace, its up to YOU to make sure his peaceful visions weren't in vain. "

More truth!! If you can't make the world see things your way no matter how much you fight with them and call them names, whose problem is that??

Finally... I say that even though I'm skeptical, "I hope his followers see something in MJ I haven't been able to see yet!

What have you done to convince us that MJ was the great humanitarian you claim he was?

YOU GOT PISSED OFF ABOUT IT!!

I'm done with you!!
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A humanitarian needs to set his own self-interests aside for the good of the people.

The dictionary defines “humanitarian” as: A person having concern for or helping to improve the welfare of people.

A saint must set his earthly desires aside and maintain a clean, reverent lifestyle to be revered after death.

MJ had none of those qualities left when he died. He became self-possessed and paranoid of anyone that didn’t approve of his unconventional lifestyle.

A humanitarian CANNOT indulge in society’s taboos (Like bedding down other people’s children) and have a “If you don’t like it, TOUGH!” attitude and still be called a “humanitarian...”

and you starstruck fans will never convince us otherwise!
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When it comes to being benevolent and giving to charity, one person comes to mind: Oprah Winfrey.

She has donated millions of dollars to various charities and organizations, with most of her money going to three foundations: The Angel Network, The Oprah Winfrey Foundation, and The Oprah Winfrey Operating Foundation.

Using her talk to show to publicize The Angel Network, Winfrey has said that 100% of any donation you give, goes directly towards funding a project. Some examples of the projects are The Oprah Winfrey Leadership Academy for Girls in South Africa and Rebuilding the Gulf Coast.

The Oprah Winfrey Foundation is run exclusively by Oprah Winfrey.(You can not donate to this organization, because it’s funded by an endowment.) The Oprah Winfrey Operating Foundation was initially created in 2007 to give money towards the Leadership Academy for Girls in South Africa. Through these organizations, Winfrey has truly established herself as an altruistic person. She has extended her arm and influence far and wide throughout the world.

Besides these organizations, Oprah has volunteered her time with other, various charities. Oprah signed a wooden dog bone for an auction that will benefit the Mississippi Animal Rescue League. Oprah also gave 300 members of her audience $1000 each to donate to a charity of their choice. Winfrey helped design and signed a pair of shoes for the Stuart Weitzman charity shoe auction benefiting ovarian cancer awareness and research.

Oprah is also a big supporter of the Clinton Foundation, which supports many causes including treating HIV and AIDS and fighting climate change. She donates to Project Cuddle, which rescues hundreds of babies from abandonment and abuse every year. She is one of the largest contributors to Free The Children, an organization dedicated to building schools for children in developing countries. Oprah has also auctioned off some of the cars from her collection for charity.

On The Oprah Winfrey Show, she has talked about various issues including the importance to donate to charity. Winfrey also created www.oprah.com , a website that shows information related to her show, book club, and, of course, public charity. On top of all this, Oprah also has a will that will donate 1 billion dollars to charity.

Oprah Winfrey is, beyond all doubt, one of the greatest philanthropists in the 21st century.
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MJ fans are so busy arguing with anyone that doesn't agree that MJ was the greatest humanitarian that ever lived, nobody bothered to mention Oprah Winfrey.

Pretty pathetic.
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Dec 17, 2013
 
Nobody has ever been inspired by Oprah, right I WANT YOU BACK MICHAEL?

Your whole world revolves around MJ?
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Dec 17, 2013
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

John and Yoko have their hair cut short in this video.

Why... you ask?

FOR PEACE!!!!!!!!!!

They knew they were public figures and anything they say or do in public will be snatched up by the press. So they stuck their necks out and made a physical effort to promote P-E-A-C-E.

No money was exchanged.
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Seeing John do things like that helped me measure the monetary value of things. Like how there's the money it takes to survive comfortably and everything else is just showing off!

According to Karma, all you have to do is be a nice person for life to reward you. You can't always count on other humans so sometimes its best if you weigh your good deeds next to your bad deeds.

If you're just a plain old mean SOB, what are you counting on....LUCK?
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Nobody has ever been inspired by Oprah, right I WANT YOU BACK MICHAEL?
Your whole world revolves around MJ?
Be a man about it.and Just admit you are a little bit Jealous of Michael.and if the truths known thats what it is really about.you all keep talking about peace.have some respect and let Michael rest in peace.
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I WANT YOU BACK MICHAEL wrote:
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Be a man about it.and Just admit you are a little bit Jealous of Michael.and if the truths known thats what it is really about.you all keep talking about peace.have some respect and let Michael rest in peace.
Uhhhhh...

If you can't give us examples for why everyone should think MJ is the "awesome role model" you think he is, how are YOU promoting peace by calling people that have no idea what you're talking about "scum of the earth," princess?

Do you think Michael would be proud of you?

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