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“Waiting for f'loons to wake up”

Since: Dec 06

Goofybaboon's Not Listening

#50 Apr 7, 2014
Octopus wrote:
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You seem to have a lot of knowledge of how recordings are remastered, Reality Awaits. I know that some people prefer vinyl over digital and to me that makes sense. However, I definitely notice a lack of quality on how new music is being recorded today. Artists really do not have to go into a proper studio to make their albums. I miss the channel separation and the warmth of how it was done in the past. They were just produced better. Remastering an old recording can do wonders but I guess it depends on who does it. I've heard some great sounding stuff and I've heard remasters where the music dips, clips and fades through out the disc. I have The Beatles remaster of "Rubber Soul" that is like that. Totally unlistenable. What is strange is that I replaced it with the bootleg, "The Soul Sessions" and it has brilliant sound, crisp and clear.
I remember looking on usenet binary groups that offered some of the raw original recordings of all the actual sound channels, separated, used in the recording process It was neat to hear just one instrument playing. The Beatles "Hey Bulldog" when heard for each individual instrument playing by itself was neat. Paul's bass had a nice melodic and gutsy low-end without being restrained or uneven. Ringo's drums had that quality of brashness and crispness restored to his hi-hat and the slapping of his drumstick on the skin of the drumhead reverberated with authority. John's voice was just as reedy as it ever was and even somewhat naturally brash when the sibilance came. Natural straight-ahead recordings do have a cleaner-tighter sound.

I'll give you a temporary link to an example of such a well done recording, direct to two-channels from Sheffield Labs. It has minimal such processing and NO compression or limiting.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/n7wk1hh8cvg63yq/02%...

The year of the recording - 1972.

Big difference, right?

“Waiting for f'loons to wake up”

Since: Dec 06

Goofybaboon's Not Listening

#51 Apr 7, 2014
Here is the beginning of this album, in particular, the Resurrection (2013) version of whatever "Do You Know Where Your Children Are?"

http://tinyurl.com/p9jkg5u

Not so clear, right? But it's typical for the time period
Octopus

Schenectady, NY

#52 Apr 7, 2014
Reality_Awaits wrote:
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I remember looking on usenet binary groups that offered some of the raw original recordings of all the actual sound channels, separated, used in the recording process It was neat to hear just one instrument playing. The Beatles "Hey Bulldog" when heard for each individual instrument playing by itself was neat. Paul's bass had a nice melodic and gutsy low-end without being restrained or uneven. Ringo's drums had that quality of brashness and crispness restored to his hi-hat and the slapping of his drumstick on the skin of the drumhead reverberated with authority. John's voice was just as reedy as it ever was and even somewhat naturally brash when the sibilance came. Natural straight-ahead recordings do have a cleaner-tighter sound.
I'll give you a temporary link to an example of such a well done recording, direct to two-channels from Sheffield Labs. It has minimal such processing and NO compression or limiting.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n7wk1hh8cvg63yq/02%...
The year of the recording - 1972.
Big difference, right?
I've been definitely been getting some amazing sounding recordings that just happen to be imports but I do not know where it is coming from or how they are remastering the music because none of my regular store bought discs can compare with this quality. Years ago, certain record companies had a program called, "moble fidelity sound lab" which was an ultradisc digital audio recording produced on a gold plated cd. The program did not last long but the cd's were more expensive. As an Elvis Presley collector, I've been blown away with what I've been able to find in recent years. The sound is mindboggling. I just do not understand why a major record label wouldn't want to put out things like this. It does not make sense to me. For years I've been hearing how great the Japanese rock imports are compared to the rest of the world. Maybe Sony does not believe most American music buyers care what they produce for the mass public.

“Why can't you share your bed?”

Since: May 13

Canada

#53 Apr 7, 2014
Reality_Awaits wrote:
Here is the beginning of this album, in particular, the Resurrection (2013) version of whatever "Do You Know Where Your Children Are?"
http://tinyurl.com/p9jkg5u
Not so clear, right? But it's typical for the time period
If there 12 year old boys they might be at Neverland with Wacko.

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#54 Apr 7, 2014
I'm not going to buy it - Anybody else not going to buy it?

“Waiting for f'loons to wake up”

Since: Dec 06

Goofybaboon's Not Listening

#55 Apr 7, 2014
Octopus wrote:
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I've been definitely been getting some amazing sounding recordings that just happen to be imports but I do not know where it is coming from or how they are remastering the music because none of my regular store bought discs can compare with this quality. Years ago, certain record companies had a program called, "moble fidelity sound lab" which was an ultradisc digital audio recording produced on a gold plated cd. The program did not last long but the cd's were more expensive. As an Elvis Presley collector, I've been blown away with what I've been able to find in recent years. The sound is mindboggling. I just do not understand why a major record label wouldn't want to put out things like this. It does not make sense to me. For years I've been hearing how great the Japanese rock imports are compared to the rest of the world. Maybe Sony does not believe most American music buyers care what they produce for the mass public.
Some artists have taken great interest in exactly promoting that kind of quality here in the states.

http://www.cnet.com/products/ponoplayer/

Why hasn't the quality been up to the high standards here? Because this country is filled with people who have come to expect low quality throw-away products. Unfortunate that the recording industry here adopted that standard and crapped on their own output. Seems like all things made for Americans are substandard. Purely political - maximizing profits while minimizing quality and lobbying officials to keep out other products using bureaucracy and legislation. All in the name of the mighty dollar, and those overseas companies that make superior products have agreed to cooperate.
Just a guess.

“Dark Lord of All”

Since: Jun 13

The Time Vortex

#57 Apr 7, 2014
jim - wrote:
I'm not going to buy it - Anybody else not going to buy it?
I'd never even bother to rip it from YouTube or get it through torrent let alone pay a red cent for it or any of Jacko's other music.
Octopus

Schenectady, NY

#58 Apr 7, 2014
Reality_Awaits wrote:
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Some artists have taken great interest in exactly promoting that kind of quality here in the states.
http://www.cnet.com/products/ponoplayer/
Why hasn't the quality been up to the high standards here? Because this country is filled with people who have come to expect low quality throw-away products. Unfortunate that the recording industry here adopted that standard and crapped on their own output. Seems like all things made for Americans are substandard. Purely political - maximizing profits while minimizing quality and lobbying officials to keep out other products using bureaucracy and legislation. All in the name of the mighty dollar, and those overseas companies that make superior products have agreed to cooperate.
Just a guess.
Very interesting that Neil Young is promoting a new form of digital ipod players. I've never have gotten into listening to music that way because I still like the physical package of bookets, photographs and liner notes. What I've been fortunate to find though is 24 bit remastered imports on Elvis. But I have older an older title of The Rolling Stones live at Leeds in 1971 that is 24 bit. The sound quality is amazing and it is perhaps the best Rolling Stones performance ever captured on tape. Obviously, these releases are produced overseas
from someone that had access to the vaults or bought them from other collectors. Of course, I would not expect my nieces to care about rock n roll or anything that I consider art because they wouldn't listen to it anyway no matter how good the sound quality is. Same as my wife's nephews. They simply do not listen to music as I do nor would they bother to seek out such collectibles. However, because I was always buying rock n roll as a kid in the late seventies and eighties, my hobby has been downsized quite a bit after the end of the hair band era. I seek out things that I've never heard before because I still love great music and performances. Otherwise, there would be nothing else out there that I'd want to buy, especially from today's artists. They do not interest me. I am very picky and desire historical rock performances in the studio or live in the best sound quality possible.

“Waiting for f'loons to wake up”

Since: Dec 06

Goofybaboon's Not Listening

#59 Apr 7, 2014
Octopus wrote:
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Very interesting that Neil Young is promoting a new form of digital ipod players. I've never have gotten into listening to music that way because I still like the physical package of bookets, photographs and liner notes. What I've been fortunate to find though is 24 bit remastered imports on Elvis. But I have older an older title of The Rolling Stones live at Leeds in 1971 that is 24 bit. The sound quality is amazing and it is perhaps the best Rolling Stones performance ever captured on tape. Obviously, these releases are produced overseas
from someone that had access to the vaults or bought them from other collectors. Of course, I would not expect my nieces to care about rock n roll or anything that I consider art because they wouldn't listen to it anyway no matter how good the sound quality is. Same as my wife's nephews. They simply do not listen to music as I do nor would they bother to seek out such collectibles. However, because I was always buying rock n roll as a kid in the late seventies and eighties, my hobby has been downsized quite a bit after the end of the hair band era. I seek out things that I've never heard before because I still love great music and performances. Otherwise, there would be nothing else out there that I'd want to buy, especially from today's artists. They do not interest me. I am very picky and desire historical rock performances in the studio or live in the best sound quality possible.
Well, then the DVD Audio is definitely for you. The music is encoded in either DTS 5.1,Dolby 5.1, Dolby TrueHD, or even the DTS Master... at encoding of 48-192kbps and 24bit to 32bit floating point, that little bit of 'inaudible' sure does make a difference. Inaudible must have been the buzzword for "Buy this because you will not hear a difference". Yeah, right bub. I definitely hear the spectacular realism carried over, especially in live environments. One great live performance recorded properly is Siouxsie and the Banshees "Nocturne" (48khz FLAC @24bit ). The crowd noise is just so surreal you'd swear you were there with them.

“Waiting for f'loons to wake up”

Since: Dec 06

Goofybaboon's Not Listening

#60 Apr 7, 2014
Oops, except that one was just stereo but even so, there are a few fine 5.1 and above audios being shared online. Bought just one DVD Audio several years ago and I think they kinda disappeared from market.
Octopus

Schenectady, NY

#61 Apr 7, 2014
Reality_Awaits wrote:
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Well, then the DVD Audio is definitely for you. The music is encoded in either DTS 5.1,Dolby 5.1, Dolby TrueHD, or even the DTS Master... at encoding of 48-192kbps and 24bit to 32bit floating point, that little bit of 'inaudible' sure does make a difference. Inaudible must have been the buzzword for "Buy this because you will not hear a difference". Yeah, right bub. I definitely hear the spectacular realism carried over, especially in live environments. One great live performance recorded properly is Siouxsie and the Banshees "Nocturne" (48khz FLAC @24bit ). The crowd noise is just so surreal you'd swear you were there with them.
I know I have a couple surround sound 5.1's on DVD from a few rock artists. I think one was a live performance from The Cure. I know they are buried with the rest of the DVD's we have somewhere. It is like hearing a jet plane taking off.

“Why can't you share your bed?”

Since: May 13

Canada

#62 Apr 8, 2014
jim - wrote:
I'm not going to buy it - Anybody else not going to buy it?
Honestly I got ZERO desire in listening to it. I've grown very repulsed by that wispy, child-like, whisper act he puts on with his voice. He's so bogus.
I WANT YOU BACK MICHAEL

UK

#63 Apr 8, 2014
TripleH1976 wrote:
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Honestly I got ZERO desire in listening to it. I've grown very repulsed by that wispy, child-like, whisper act he puts on with his voice. He's so bogus.
you are all still listening to it on you tube.none of you can get enough of MJ
MJ The most amazing person with the most powerful beautiful voice.and Number one forever
Whenever we needed him his music was there
Whenever we needed uplifting his music was there
So many feel the same way how he spoke to them
Individually.he taught us so many life lessons
Through his music.his star power had no boundaries he was a humanitarian at heart an heart of an angel.with donatiins to charities and hospitals around the world.and MJ the greatest entertainer song writing genius of all time he will
Never be replaced the world loves our angel forever.and forever he will be in our heart.

“Why can't you share your bed?”

Since: May 13

Canada

#64 Apr 8, 2014
I WANT YOU BACK MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text> you are all still listening to it on you tube.none of you can get enough of MJ
MJ The most amazing person with the most powerful beautiful voice.and Number one forever
Whenever we needed him his music was there
Whenever we needed uplifting his music was there
So many feel the same way how he spoke to them
Individually.he taught us so many life lessons
Through his music.his star power had no boundaries he was a humanitarian at heart an heart of an angel.with donatiins to charities and hospitals around the world.and MJ the greatest entertainer song writing genius of all time he will
Never be replaced the world loves our angel forever.and forever he will be in our heart.
Good gawd!! Shut up will ya.

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#66 Apr 8, 2014
I WANT YOU BACK MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text> you are all still listening to it on you tube.none of you can get enough of MJ
MJ The most amazing person with the most powerful beautiful voice.and Number one forever
Whenever we needed him his music was there
Whenever we needed uplifting his music was there
So many feel the same way how he spoke to them
Individually.he taught us so many life lessons
Through his music.his star power had no boundaries he was a humanitarian at heart an heart of an angel.with donatiins to charities and hospitals around the world.and MJ the greatest entertainer song writing genius of all time he will
Never be replaced the world loves our angel forever.and forever he will be in our heart.
Your one of the few fans on here of MJ and your giving MJ fans a bad name being such a fruitcake!*kinda of makes MJ look bad too!

“Just havin' a little fun!”

Since: Apr 10

Hollywood, CA

#67 Apr 8, 2014
TripleH1976 wrote:
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Good gawd!! Shut up will ya.
LOL!

“Just havin' a little fun!”

Since: Apr 10

Hollywood, CA

#68 Apr 8, 2014
jim - wrote:
I'm not going to buy it - Anybody else not going to buy it?
Nope, neither am I.

“at yet more f'loonspin”

Since: Aug 11

I live far away from f'loons

#71 Apr 13, 2014
jim - wrote:
I'm not going to buy it - Anybody else not going to buy it?
I'm definitely not going to buy it.
Rickey Bobby

North Kingstown, RI

#72 Apr 15, 2014
[QUOTE who="I DON'T WANT YOU BACK MICHAEL"]I bet you anything half of these clowns on this forum will download this album in secret.they cant get enough of him.by what they are saying they all have been listening to the songs on U tube.
They know in the real world they like him as much as us.[/QUOTE] You lose that bet, but I don't want you to pay me with your MJ cushion. I have never bought or downloaded a Michael Jackson album or song. I hear his music in the supermarket every once in a while. They never play his music on the music stations I listen to. These stations only play popular music.
Rickey Bobby

North Kingstown, RI

#73 Apr 15, 2014
Len is Disgusted wrote:
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I'm definitely not going to buy it.
I will not only not buy it, I will not look or listen to it if it is on youtube. The only interest I had in him was to speak out against his pedophelia, drug habit, poor parenting, and narcissism.

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