Michael Jackson had semen stains from other males on his bed

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It's been confirmed the Arvizo brothers lied.
No, they did not. All the hidden rooms, brief case with pornography, and wine cellar Michael Jackson gave them access to were found and confirmed by law enforcement. They had nothing to gain by fabricating Jackson eavesdropped on his employees. In addition, they are not the first people to say he did such a thing.

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Soiled clothing belongs in laundry bags even semen stained pants but the maid must have planted them in Paris's laundry bag to try and make some extra money. MJ left receipts in his pockets because he had nothing to hide. His staff stole from MJ and sold lies to the media. I blame them for being leaches and taking advantage of MJ instead of being his loyal friends.
The old "blame-it-on-the-butler " story. Nothing you posted holds any water. The laundry bag was from the hotel where Michael stayed with a a group of people and drugs, for starters.

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I don't know why people think this information came from tabloids. No it came from court documents. Documents that, if you really thought hard of it, didn't exonerate Jackson, it just proved he was liable of committing the acts he was accused of. And since most of the people he was with were underage males, why would it be deemed tabloid-ish? That's just simply not the case here.

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I don't know why people think this information came from tabloids. No it came from court documents. Documents that, if you really thought hard of it, didn't exonerate Jackson, it just proved he was liable of committing the acts he was accused of. And since most of the people he was with were underage males, why would it be deemed tabloid-ish? That's just simply not the case here.
Denial is a curious state of mind. But f'loon denial puts a creepy spin on that word.

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Len is Disgusted wrote:
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Denial is a curious state of mind. But f'loon denial puts a creepy spin on that word.
It's scary actually with all that we know that they'll still find an excuse for it. Don't know whether to laugh or shake my head. It's sad the levels of denial they have.
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Disgusting. Jackson makes me sick in so many ways. How does one as him keep fan-base?

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Dark Matter wrote:
Disgusting. Jackson makes me sick in so many ways. How does one as him keep fan-base?
Because the deranged man attracted fans whose minds are just as unhinged as his. Let us pray they never leave the house, until they get help.

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BadMan84 wrote:
I don't know why people think this information came from tabloids. No it came from court documents. Documents that, if you really thought hard of it, didn't exonerate Jackson, it just proved he was liable of committing the acts he was accused of. And since most of the people he was with were underage males, why would it be deemed tabloid-ish? That's just simply not the case here.
Because they are the easiest scapegoats and ones MJ blamed the most for his personal and legal woes. If they took a look at the documents they would be slapped with reality, but it's better for them to remain in the dark about their leader.

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Disgusting. Jackson makes me sick in so many ways. How does one as him keep fan-base?
Don't worry. You got plenty of company. I know lots of people that have been sick of the clown since 1994.

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Because they are the easiest scapegoats and ones MJ blamed the most for his personal and legal woes. If they took a look at the documents they would be slapped with reality, but it's better for them to remain in the dark about their leader.
I remember when MJ kept blabbing on about "it's tabloids, believe what I tell you" on VH-1. He was basically hypnotizing fans to go "oh it's not true, it's tabloids". But it's in court papers. If you're young and an MJ fan (like I was), you go "yeah I can believe him" but with the available information out there online, when you read it, you realize he was lying numerous times. He lied about not having those pedophile-approved "art" books, he lied about children wanting to sleep with him (to his credit, Gavin exposed him on that interview while MJ was sitting with him going, "Michael said 'if you love me, you'll sleep on the bed'"! I mean what man who claims he's straight and wants to help the children does that? All the while MJ was grinning at him like a Cheshire cat!), he lied about how he got his skin disorder (vitiligo doesn't naturally even your skin tone), he lied about his surgeries (obviously) and the biggest lie of all, he said he would fight charges against him when in truth he plead the fifth and had lawyers going at bat for him and lawyers weren't gonna put him in the stand anyway because he was incapable of explaining his behavior. He's able to fool some people but not everybody. Like the saying goes, "you can fool all people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time."

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TripleH1976 wrote:
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Because they are the easiest scapegoats and ones MJ blamed the most for his personal and legal woes. If they took a look at the documents they would be slapped with reality, but it's better for them to remain in the dark about their leader.
I wouldn't care if f'loons kept their denial to themselves. But to harass anyone who exposes Michael for the fraud he was? Unhealthy and scary.

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I wouldn't care if f'loons kept their denial to themselves. But to harass anyone who exposes Michael for the fraud he was? Unhealthy and scary.
True. Word around Facebook is a number of hostile MJ f'loons attempted to contact Gavin Arvizo's new father-in-law. What for? I do not know why, but I'm certain it was for something incredibly disgusting.
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goodvibrations wrote:
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Proof and evidence?
Quite the contrary, I am most confident that Jordan's description of Jackson's penis was correct. There is also the fact that 2 grand juries thought it was match, and Jackson and every legal personnel he hired never disputed it which is an overwhelming indicator that it was definitely a match.

You are also ignoring the fact that Jackson himself never offered to be of any help during police questioning or in a court of law. As I've said many times before, strange that an alleged victim of false molestation claims would do absolutely nothing to help expose "false accusers" from accusing another innocent victim.

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Quite the contrary, I am most confident that Jordan's description of Jackson's penis was correct. There is also the fact that 2 grand juries thought it was match, and Jackson and every legal personnel he hired never disputed it which is an overwhelming indicator that it was definitely a match.
You are also ignoring the fact that Jackson himself never offered to be of any help during police questioning or in a court of law. As I've said many times before, strange that an alleged victim of false molestation claims would do absolutely nothing to help expose "false accusers" from accusing another innocent victim.
The matter was never disputed because it wasn't substantial evidence to present to the court and that's the reason why 2 grand juries didn't find the description a match.

MJ did provide help during police questioning, there is substantial footage of it to prove the point. He had every legal right to say he was innocent about something that never was committed.

MJ was investigated and interrogated more than all pedophiles and murderers have. I wish they treated all child offenders and murderers with the same intensity that was given to MJ because it would help eradicate all pedophilia rings and syndicates from this planet.
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The matter was never disputed because it wasn't substantial evidence to present to the court and that's the reason why 2 grand juries didn't find the description a match.
MJ did provide help during police questioning, there is substantial footage of it to prove the point. He had every legal right to say he was innocent about something that never was committed.
MJ was investigated and interrogated more than all pedophiles and murderers have. I wish they treated all child offenders and murderers with the same intensity that was given to MJ because it would help eradicate all pedophilia rings and syndicates from this planet.
For sheer ridiculousness and inept lawyer skills, nothing beats the no-show of those mysterious witnesses that Thomas Mesereau supposedly had ready to come in and testify that Jordan said nothing inappropriate happened between him and Jackson.

You seem to have a very hard time accepting the fact that those photos/description that Jordan made had every right to be at the Arvizo trial as permitted by California law. Mesereau had every opportunity to subpoena Jordan and question him on the drawings he made and expose any discrepancies if an existed.

The fact he didn't only proves he knew Jackson had sexually abused him and he didn't want him anywhere near that courtroom.

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For sheer ridiculousness and inept lawyer skills, nothing beats the no-show of those mysterious witnesses that Thomas Mesereau supposedly had ready to come in and testify that Jordan said nothing inappropriate happened between him and Jackson.
You seem to have a very hard time accepting the fact that those photos/description that Jordan made had every right to be at the Arvizo trial as permitted by California law. Mesereau had every opportunity to subpoena Jordan and question him on the drawings he made and expose any discrepancies if an existed.
The fact he didn't only proves he knew Jackson had sexually abused him and he didn't want him anywhere near that courtroom.
To describe Mesereau's lawyer skills as inept is LOW as describing Michael Jackson of guilt.

Get over it and spread you venom onto some pedophile ring instead of very dead and innocent man. Let his family move on.

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Juggs Judy wrote:
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For sheer ridiculousness and inept lawyer skills, nothing beats the no-show of those mysterious witnesses that Thomas Mesereau supposedly had ready to come in and testify that Jordan said nothing inappropriate happened between him and Jackson.
You seem to have a very hard time accepting the fact that those photos/description that Jordan made had every right to be at the Arvizo trial as permitted by California law. Mesereau had every opportunity to subpoena Jordan and question him on the drawings he made and expose any discrepancies if an existed.
The fact he didn't only proves he knew Jackson had sexually abused him and he didn't want him anywhere near that courtroom.
I remember they had this huge list of witnesses for MJ to defend his character. I don't know if it was Thomas' idea or MJ's but apparently that was quickly dropped. Maybe because Thomas didn't think their testimony would've helped MJ's side at all after what was revealed on the prosecution's side. Despite the not guilty verdict, MJ's reputation was tarnished further after the case. His death has somewhat rehabilitated his image but the stories remain. You can't get rid of these stories no matter how hard you try.
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Dark Matter wrote:
Disgusting. Jackson makes me sick in so many ways. How does one as him keep fan-base?
I remember on some documentary, Diane Dimond did an imitation of how MJ would gush about Culkin. MJ would gush to everyone "look at those pouty little lips"
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I remember on some documentary, Diane Dimond did an imitation of how MJ would gush about Culkin. MJ would gush to everyone "look at those pouty little lips"
And just how would she know that? She certainly wasn't there at the time, so who and what was her source of information for that?

While we're on the subject, DD gushed about Gavin Arvizo's 'angelic' looks. What about that? Is it all right for DD to gush about some adolescent male's looks but if MJ does it he's accused of being a pedophile?

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<quoted text> And just how would she know that? She certainly wasn't there at the time, so who and what was her source of information for that?
While we're on the subject, DD gushed about Gavin Arvizo's 'angelic' looks. What about that? Is it all right for DD to gush about some adolescent male's looks but if MJ does it he's accused of being a pedophile?
Are we in the current mode of treating this open forum as a court room again, troll? Was it a tough Christmas without your Pedo God?

While we're on the subject of source of information where is your source of information that "two grand jurys" viewed the description and photographs made by Jordie and agreed it was a mismatch? And what about your claim that Star then Gavin incorrectly described Wacko's body as all-white? And while we're on a roll what about your claim that Gavin was asked by Mesereau to describe certain features of Wacko's penis. Where is your source of information for that?

And wasn't the fabulous Diane Dimond (who by the way considers the welfare of children over a tacky pop star more important) merely making the point that Wacko Jacko had a habit of bedding boys who were often good looking and remarkably similar in the looks department? And did Diane after making that comment make any kind of attempt to have a one-on-one sleepover with Gavin, or any other boy for that matter the way your Pedo God did throughout most of his adult life? If so, what's your source?

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