Michael Jackson spent A 23MILLION buying silence of at least TWO...

Jun 29, 2013 Full story: Mirror.co.uk 145

Secret FBI files exclusively seen by the Sunday People reveal Michael Jackson spent A 23million buying the silence of at least two dozen young boys he abused over 15 years.

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FollowTheMoney

Bryn Mawr, PA

#21 Jul 1, 2013
Len is Disgusted wrote:
P.S. I want to read these files. Where are they stored, and how could I get a copy of the files, albeit redacted?
I can't wait to see the f'loonspin.
Freedom of Information Act request with the federal government. I think some are online in bits and pieces.

I might believe the just "sleeping" if it was 2 people but two DOZEN people and millions of dollars later? I can't believe people still think this was a shake down from 2 dozen people that really didn't know each other that well.

There was and is too much crap associated with MJ. Get his stuff off of top 40 radio which is already bad and repititious enough.
FollowTheMoney

Bryn Mawr, PA

#22 Jul 1, 2013
goodvibrations wrote:
BTW why didn't the FBI press lay charges and use their evidence?
Why don't they want to discuss the matter?
That's because none of that crap is true.
I can see why most papers in the UK, and across the rest of Europe, are losing readers and money.
FBI really can't involved unless the same criminal does the samething across state lines or some how the crime involved doing stuff across state lines. If the kids were forcefully held or detained by Jackson they could go after him for kidnapping. But the parents gave their permission to stay at the ranch.

Child molestation and other crimes usually are prosecuted at the local level. I can't believe the money didn't cross state lines. They got initial probable cause somewhere to start a file-what was the initial complaint that got the FBI involved?
Truth be Told

Yorktown Heights, NY

#23 Jul 1, 2013
Yes badvibrations never, ever, ever leaves here to even shower. Talk about obsessed and she's stalking the kids. Obviously this lifeless person is sick and filthy..

Since: Dec 09

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#24 Jul 1, 2013
Len is Disgusted wrote:
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I fail to understand how Joy could possibly not have known Michael was molesting her son. She delivered her son to him, like take-out food, whenever Michael called and asked for him. She even admitted driving him to Neverland, around 1:30 in the morning, because Michael called and asked for him, knowing he was sleeping alone with Michael.
What I'd like to know is whether or not Wade still speaks to his mother.
I think she chose to turn a blind eye and believe her 8 year old son when he told her nothing was going on. The woman was smitten with Wacko, he changed her life.

I too wonder what is the nature of the relationship is between Wade and his mom. He may believe that Michael was a master manipulator who groomed his mom or he blames her for allowing all boundaries to be abandoned almost instantly upon meeting Wacko.

One thing is for sure, Wade's freedom has become Joy's prison with the knowledge that she was a horrible mother who sacrificed her son for financial gain.

“Why can't you share your bed?”

Since: May 13

Canada

#25 Jul 1, 2013
goodvibrations wrote:
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That's because Joy didn't have your filthy mind. She had faith in MJ and trusted him.
Joy and MJ helped Wade achieve his career dream.
MJ saw Wade's potential. His interest in Wade was not sexual, that is why he welcomed him into his family. Wade even dated a family member.
Many survivors have problems with relationships and sexual difficulties.
Wade has displayed no signs of a 7 year molestation.
He is a happily married man with a son.
Men abused during their boyhood do end up getting married and become fathers. Who told you they do not?? Look up the victims of Jerry Sandusky. They had girlfriends and wives as well. In fact, the men were so humiliated by Sandusky's abuse they never told their girlfriends/wives they were sexually abused as boys.

“Why can't you share your bed?”

Since: May 13

Canada

#26 Jul 1, 2013
Serial_Mom wrote:
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I think she chose to turn a blind eye and believe her 8 year old son when he told her nothing was going on. The woman was smitten with Wacko, he changed her life.
I too wonder what is the nature of the relationship is between Wade and his mom. He may believe that Michael was a master manipulator who groomed his mom or he blames her for allowing all boundaries to be abandoned almost instantly upon meeting Wacko.
One thing is for sure, Wade's freedom has become Joy's prison with the knowledge that she was a horrible mother who sacrificed her son for financial gain.
Well, we know Jordan Chandler did not speak to his mother for 10 years. For he believed he was "pimped out" by his mother to permit Michael Jackson to sexually abuse him while they were travelling around the world in 1992 and staying at luxury hotels. All Jackson had to do was hand over his credit card and provide a limousine and she would go shopping for anything she desired.

“It's all lies”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#27 Jul 1, 2013
Serial_Mom wrote:
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I think she chose to turn a blind eye and believe her 8 year old son when he told her nothing was going on. The woman was smitten with Wacko, he changed her life.
I too wonder what is the nature of the relationship is between Wade and his mom. He may believe that Michael was a master manipulator who groomed his mom or he blames her for allowing all boundaries to be abandoned almost instantly upon meeting Wacko.
One thing is for sure, Wade's freedom has become Joy's prison with the knowledge that she was a horrible mother who sacrificed her son for financial gain.
But Wade is a happily married man with a son. Wade has no low self esteem issues. There has been no disruption in his life. He has never had substance abuse addictions and has always formed close relationships easily.

Yes all the hallmarks of a sexually abused victim and pigs can fly. Bwhahahaha
persephone

Sunnyvale, CA

#28 Jul 1, 2013
TripleH1976 wrote:
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Well, we know Jordan Chandler did not speak to his mother for 10 years. For he believed he was "pimped out" by his mother to permit Michael Jackson to sexually abuse him while they were travelling around the world in 1992 and staying at luxury hotels. All Jackson had to do was hand over his credit card and provide a limousine and she would go shopping for anything she desired.
Just because someone's mother went on shopping trips doesn't mean that she 'pimped' out her son to MJ.

You really need to be reminded that MJ was known to be generous to many people--not just boys and parents of boys.

Since: Jun 13

Durham, NC

#29 Jul 1, 2013
TripleH1976 wrote:
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Men abused during their boyhood do end up getting married and become fathers. Who told you they do not?? Look up the victims of Jerry Sandusky. They had girlfriends and wives as well. In fact, the men were so humiliated by Sandusky's abuse they never told their girlfriends/wives they were sexually abused as boys.
Yeah, Jimmy Safechuck and Wade Robson are perfect examples of abused young men who ended up being family men with wives and children. And they're far from the only ones. Mac had a longtime relationship with Mila Kunis but unfortunately they didn't marry.

Since: Jun 13

Durham, NC

#30 Jul 1, 2013
TripleH1976 wrote:
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Well, we know Jordan Chandler did not speak to his mother for 10 years. For he believed he was "pimped out" by his mother to permit Michael Jackson to sexually abuse him while they were travelling around the world in 1992 and staying at luxury hotels. All Jackson had to do was hand over his credit card and provide a limousine and she would go shopping for anything she desired.
The same can be said for a lot of the mothers with the exception of probably Janet Arvizo.

“It's all lies”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#31 Jul 1, 2013
FollowTheMoney wrote:
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FBI really can't involved unless the same criminal does the samething across state lines or some how the crime involved doing stuff across state lines. If the kids were forcefully held or detained by Jackson they could go after him for kidnapping. But the parents gave their permission to stay at the ranch.
Child molestation and other crimes usually are prosecuted at the local level. I can't believe the money didn't cross state lines. They got initial probable cause somewhere to start a file-what was the initial complaint that got the FBI involved?
What a load of hogwash. They currently have jurisdiction over violations of more than 200 categories of federal law including pedophilia.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate

“It's all lies”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#32 Jul 1, 2013
TripleH1976 wrote:
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Men abused during their boyhood do end up getting married and become fathers. Who told you they do not?? Look up the victims of Jerry Sandusky. They had girlfriends and wives as well. In fact, the men were so humiliated by Sandusky's abuse they never told their girlfriends/wives they were sexually abused as boys.
I don't believe a victim of seven years would not have relationship and sexual problems. Sandusky's victims did not suffer years of abuse.

“It's all lies”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#33 Jul 1, 2013
Len is Disgusted wrote:
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Have you spoken to Wade about his relationships, any sexual difficulties, and his own general happiness?
I didn't think so.
Here is Wade's description of his molestation. Bwhahaha

“Why can't you share your bed?”

Since: May 13

Canada

#34 Jul 1, 2013
goodvibrations wrote:
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I don't believe a victim of seven years would not have relationship and sexual problems. Sandusky's victims did not suffer years of abuse.
Yes they did. Four to six of getting diddled by man old enough to pass as your grandpa qualifies as years of abuse.

“Why can't you share your bed?”

Since: May 13

Canada

#35 Jul 1, 2013
persephone wrote:
<quoted text> Just because someone's mother went on shopping trips doesn't mean that she 'pimped' out her son to MJ.
You really need to be reminded that MJ was known to be generous to many people--not just boys and parents of boys.
That's the description Jordan Chandler gave regarding the indifference his mother showed for him all because Michael Jackson let her shop for anything she desired, while leaving him alone with Jackson. I don't claim Michael Jackson sexually molested every child he was generous to, but in the case of Jordan Chandler. The generosity he showed June Chandler came at the expense of exploiting Jordan Chandler's body.

Since: Jun 13

Durham, NC

#36 Jul 1, 2013
The more some fans try to make fun of those who were molested, the more insane they look. That's all I have to say about that.

“It's all lies”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#37 Jul 1, 2013
TripleH1976 wrote:
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Yes they did. Four to six of getting diddled by man old enough to pass as your grandpa qualifies as years of abuse.
Sandusky was guilty but Michael Jackson was innocent.

Wade is committing this same stunt.

sheepleloveroyal ty

Bryn Mawr, PA

#38 Jul 1, 2013
goodvibrations wrote:
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What a load of hogwash. They currently have jurisdiction over violations of more than 200 categories of federal law including pedophilia.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate
Read in detail:

...investigate and prosecute crimes that CROSS legal, geographical and jurisdictional boundries...

10-20 years ago it was tougher to call in the FBI. It's not like TV where they roam the country doing what they want. It usually takes a local invitation if not clear cut federal jurisdiction. Pedophile laws have been enhanced alot since the 90s when Jackson apparently did most of his deeds. To start the file they have took a request from someone, more than likely outside the FBI.

Because of the growth of child porn-internet crosses state lines and kidnappings by physcos that went very public it's now easier for the feds to investigate. 10-20 years ago the FBIs primary jobs racketeering, catching spies and money scams. There was a time when the FBI only took lawyers and accountants and some scientists. Now it's a four degree.

Since: Jun 13

Durham, NC

#39 Jul 1, 2013
sheepleloveroyalty wrote:
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Read in detail:
...investigate and prosecute crimes that CROSS legal, geographical and jurisdictional boundries...
10-20 years ago it was tougher to call in the FBI. It's not like TV where they roam the country doing what they want. It usually takes a local invitation if not clear cut federal jurisdiction. Pedophile laws have been enhanced alot since the 90s when Jackson apparently did most of his deeds. To start the file they have took a request from someone, more than likely outside the FBI.
Because of the growth of child porn-internet crosses state lines and kidnappings by physcos that went very public it's now easier for the feds to investigate. 10-20 years ago the FBIs primary jobs racketeering, catching spies and money scams. There was a time when the FBI only took lawyers and accountants and some scientists. Now it's a four degree.
Exactly. And seeing how California law was at the time, Michael didn't even get a blip on the radar with his actions surrounding his relationships with boys. Shoot, Emmanuel Lewis' mother stopped their friendship in 1984 because Michael dared to try to enter a hotel room for him and Emmanuel as "father and son"...

“at yet more f'loonspin”

Since: Aug 11

I live far away from f'loons

#40 Jul 1, 2013
goodvibrations wrote:
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Obsessed Haterz think they own him and can accuse him of any thing.
No, goofvibrations. Those of us who do not have Celebrity Worship Syndrome read legal documents and accept the conclusions. You should try it, sometime.

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