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Stella

Villas, NJ

#1 Oct 24, 2013
I stumbled onto this forum after being a huge Michael Jackson fan for several years. I'd stopped for awhile, but then became a major fan again. I'd been pretty close-minded as a fan back in 2003 especially. I had joined two forums back then that were 100% pro-Michael Jackson and posted heavily about how much I loved MJ and wanted to meet him and proclaim my love for him, etc. You get the picture. In regards to his marriages to Lisa Marie and Debbie, I fought hard to get non-fans to believe MJ was heterosexual and was having romantic sex with Lisa Marie. I have an article showing how MJ lost his temper with the author who wrote the article. The author joked a little about how MJ's marriage to Lisa Marie was a joke and the King of Pop started yelling and screaming,'How dare you think my marriage isn't real!' I was taken a back by how angry he'd gotten over a joke. As for the child molestation charges, I would get so mad if someone called him a pedophile and tell them off.(online of course) I once even told a stranger in a store who was an MJ fan that I hoped Jordie Chandler, Gavin Arviso, and Jason Francia would get killed by MJ fans, such as superfan Denise Pfeiffer, who got pretty close to killing the accuser. The fan vehemently agreed with me. I even told my mom how I felt about MJ's accusers and she got mad at me. I was losing friends over a superstar. Being an MJ fan was taking its toll on my social life. Long story short, I still listen to MJ's music and watch the dvds that I still own, but I don't consider myself a huge fan anymore. On the other hand, I do not consider myself a 'hater,' though I know several superfans on this forum who would call me that just because I may not agree with them. I call myself and other former superfans 'realists.' I don't go on the major Mj fansites anymore and refuse to view the hate pages dedicated to hating and cyberbullying to death the accusers, like Wade, Jordie and Gavin. I would never go that far, although I wanted to back when I was an obsessed superfan. That's why this post is for the realists, that's why I am not signed up yet. That's also the reason for my pseudonym, Stella. I know I will probably get a lot of retaliation from angry fans, but remember this: I still listen to MJ's music and do projects related to him. However, I am not an obsessed fan anymore. I may not share the same views that I once held when I was a hardcore fan, but I respect your views on the matter as long as you respect mine. And to the realists, I hope you will begin to see the open-mindedness that a former fan has to share with you.

“Best voice ever !”

Since: Mar 09

Devil's Hole

#2 Oct 24, 2013
We don't need another tard floon around here !

go to worship your dead monster elsewhere.

J-J-Jina Wild

“VITILIGO”

Since: Jun 10

IS A BIOTCH

#3 Oct 24, 2013
Stella wrote:
I stumbled onto this forum after being a huge Michael Jackson fan for several years. I'd stopped for awhile, but then became a major fan again. I'd been pretty close-minded as a fan back in 2003 especially. I had joined two forums back then that were 100% pro-Michael Jackson and posted heavily about how much I loved MJ and wanted to meet him and proclaim my love for him, etc. You get the picture. In regards to his marriages to Lisa Marie and Debbie, I fought hard to get non-fans to believe MJ was heterosexual and was having romantic sex with Lisa Marie. I have an article showing how MJ lost his temper with the author who wrote the article. The author joked a little about how MJ's marriage to Lisa Marie was a joke and the King of Pop started yelling and screaming,'How dare you think my marriage isn't real!' I was taken a back by how angry he'd gotten over a joke. As for the child molestation charges, I would get so mad if someone called him a pedophile and tell them off.(online of course) I once even told a stranger in a store who was an MJ fan that I hoped Jordie Chandler, Gavin Arviso, and Jason Francia would get killed by MJ fans, such as superfan Denise Pfeiffer, who got pretty close to killing the accuser. The fan vehemently agreed with me. I even told my mom how I felt about MJ's accusers and she got mad at me. I was losing friends over a superstar. Being an MJ fan was taking its toll on my social life. Long story short, I still listen to MJ's music and watch the dvds that I still own, but I don't consider myself a huge fan anymore. On the other hand, I do not consider myself a 'hater,' though I know several superfans on this forum who would call me that just because I may not agree with them. I call myself and other former superfans 'realists.' I don't go on the major Mj fansites anymore and refuse to view the hate pages dedicated to hating and cyberbullying to death the accusers, like Wade, Jordie and Gavin. I would never go that far, although I wanted to back when I was an obsessed superfan. That's why this post is for the realists, that's why I am not signed up yet. That's also the reason for my pseudonym, Stella. I know I will probably get a lot of retaliation from angry fans, but remember this: I still listen to MJ's music and do projects related to him. However, I am not an obsessed fan anymore. I may not share the same views that I once held when I was a hardcore fan, but I respect your views on the matter as long as you respect mine. And to the realists, I hope you will begin to see the open-mindedness that a former fan has to share with you.
I think that anybody who listens to and enjoys that pervert's music has abused their gift of hearing and should swap places with a deaf person as they might make better use of the sense. In the same way, any person who looks at him and thinks he's beautiful should be made to swap places with Stevie Wonder.

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#4 Oct 24, 2013
J-J-Jina Wild wrote:
<quoted text>
I think that anybody who listens to and enjoys that pervert's music has abused their gift of hearing and should swap places with a deaf person as they might make better use of the sense. In the same way, any person who looks at him and thinks he's beautiful should be made to swap places with Stevie Wonder.
Quite often, I wonder the same thing myself. How does anyone look at MJ's chiseled puppet face and think that he's handsome? WTF?

J-J-Jina Wild

“VITILIGO”

Since: Jun 10

IS A BIOTCH

#5 Oct 24, 2013
Pop Tart- wrote:
<quoted text>
Quite often, I wonder the same thing myself. How does anyone look at MJ's chiseled puppet face and think that he's handsome? WTF?
I think that the women that look at him and see 'HOT' have a touch of the lesbian about them and the men that look at him and think he looks good are a little bit fagg. There can be no other conclusion.

Mind you, shouldn't say too much because I used to fancy KD Lang before I knew she had boobs. Oooh, Missus!
FOREVER MICHAEL

Croydon, UK

#6 Oct 24, 2013
zepforever wrote:
We don't need another tard floon around here !
go to worship your dead monster elsewhere.
shut up Looney tune.Led zepplin looks
Like shrek.and robert plant look half alian and half back of the bus.so follow your looneys
Shrek (Led zep) and robert plant)
Find them some singing Lessions.and get plant
Guitar Lessions..they must be proud of there one
and only fan...enjoy each other..you deserve each other.you may need some ear plugs the musics bad.good Luck with that one.there going down with blaze glory.there ships sunk.zepp who plant who?

“at yet more f'loonspin”

Since: Aug 11

I live far away from f'loons

#7 Oct 24, 2013
Stella wrote:
I stumbled onto this forum after being a huge Michael Jackson fan for several years. I'd stopped for awhile, but then became a major fan again. I'd been pretty close-minded as a fan back in 2003 especially. I had joined two forums back then that were 100% pro-Michael Jackson and posted heavily about how much I loved MJ and wanted to meet him and proclaim my love for him, etc. You get the picture. In regards to his marriages to Lisa Marie and Debbie, I fought hard to get non-fans to believe MJ was heterosexual and was having romantic sex with Lisa Marie. I have an article showing how MJ lost his temper with the author who wrote the article. The author joked a little about how MJ's marriage to Lisa Marie was a joke and the King of Pop started yelling and screaming,'How dare you think my marriage isn't real!' I was taken a back by how angry he'd gotten over a joke. As for the child molestation charges, I would get so mad if someone called him a pedophile and tell them off.(online of course) I once even told a stranger in a store who was an MJ fan that I hoped Jordie Chandler, Gavin Arviso, and Jason Francia would get killed by MJ fans, such as superfan Denise Pfeiffer, who got pretty close to killing the accuser. The fan vehemently agreed with me. I even told my mom how I felt about MJ's accusers and she got mad at me. I was losing friends over a superstar. Being an MJ fan was taking its toll on my social life. Long story short, I still listen to MJ's music and watch the dvds that I still own, but I don't consider myself a huge fan anymore. On the other hand, I do not consider myself a 'hater,' though I know several superfans on this forum who would call me that just because I may not agree with them. I call myself and other former superfans 'realists.' I don't go on the major Mj fansites anymore and refuse to view the hate pages dedicated to hating and cyberbullying to death the accusers, like Wade, Jordie and Gavin. I would never go that far, although I wanted to back when I was an obsessed superfan. That's why this post is for the realists, that's why I am not signed up yet. That's also the reason for my pseudonym, Stella. I know I will probably get a lot of retaliation from angry fans, but remember this: I still listen to MJ's music and do projects related to him. However, I am not an obsessed fan anymore. I may not share the same views that I once held when I was a hardcore fan, but I respect your views on the matter as long as you respect mine. And to the realists, I hope you will begin to see the open-mindedness that a former fan has to share with you.
I hope you're now aware he did molest those children. If you're not sure, there are plenty of links to legal documents, which will remove all doubt.
FOREVER MICHAEL

Croydon, UK

#8 Oct 24, 2013
Pop Tart- wrote:
<quoted text>
Quite often, I wonder the same thing myself. How does anyone look at MJ's chiseled puppet face and think that he's handsome? WTF?
Michael was the most gorgeorus.MJ was Just so attrative
And stunning.even in 2009 he looked so good he was the model on front of every magazine.every song should of been written about him.he was perfect in every way.nobody can come near or touch him.he was just the good looking heart throb
He had flowing hair.the most beautiful eyes (angel eyes) the perfect nose.perfect chin.the sweetest smile.and those sweet and gentle lips.you have never seen such a beautiful face..and his gentle hands.and when his shy he covers his face with his hands his Laugh giggle .and MJ gentle and tender heart he had it all.that man was Just everything.and very precious.

Stella.its great you Listen to MJ music.
Why let yourself be brainwashed by people around you.you have your own mind.think for yourself
You know how sweet Michael was how he treated people.what was in his heart.
Can you really blame Michael for being angry
The way people have treated this wonderful man
And all the gossip and lies he had to put up with
You cant really blame him..Michael and Lisa marie was only there concern.that was there privacy
Michael deserved privacy.like everybody else.

Michael Jackson I Love you babe

J-J-Jina Wild

“VITILIGO”

Since: Jun 10

IS A BIOTCH

#9 Oct 24, 2013
FOREVER MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>Michael was the most gorgeorus.MJ was Just so attrative <INSERT SPELL CHECK HERE>
He had flowing wig.the most beautiful (llama ) eyes the perfect stick on nose.perfect Peter Griffin chin.the sweetest I'm trying not to cry smile.and those sweet and gentle stick thin lips.you have never seen such a beautifully Picassoesque face..and his gentle hands that touched up boys.and when his shy he covers his face with his hands his Laugh giggle "I'm a psycho pretending to be a child" giggle .
Aw <3

Wish I could see him through your eyes.:-(
xoxo

“at yet more f'loonspin”

Since: Aug 11

I live far away from f'loons

#10 Oct 24, 2013
FOREVER MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text>Michael was the most gorgeorus.MJ was Just so attrative
And stunning.even in 2009 he looked so good he was the model on front of every magazine.every song should of been written about him.he was perfect in every way.nobody can come near or touch him.he was just the good looking heart throb
He had flowing hair.the most beautiful eyes (angel eyes) the perfect nose.perfect chin.the sweetest smile.and those sweet and gentle lips.you have never seen such a beautiful face..and his gentle hands.and when his shy he covers his face with his hands his Laugh giggle .and MJ gentle and tender heart he had it all.that man was Just everything.and very precious.
Stella.its great you Listen to MJ music.
Why let yourself be brainwashed by people around you.you have your own mind.think for yourself
You know how sweet Michael was how he treated people.what was in his heart.
Can you really blame Michael for being angry
The way people have treated this wonderful man
And all the gossip and lies he had to put up with
You cant really blame him..Michael and Lisa marie was only there concern.that was there privacy
Michael deserved privacy.like everybody else.
Michael Jackson I Love you babe
Does your family know about your obsession with a pedophile?

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#12 Oct 24, 2013
Stella wrote:
I stumbled onto this forum after being a huge Michael Jackson fan for several years. I'd stopped for awhile, but then became a major fan again. I'd been pretty close-minded as a fan back in 2003 especially. I had joined two forums back then that were 100% pro-Michael Jackson and posted heavily about how much I loved MJ and wanted to meet him and proclaim my love for him, etc. You get the picture. In regards to his marriages to Lisa Marie and Debbie, I fought hard to get non-fans to believe MJ was heterosexual and was having romantic sex with Lisa Marie. I have an article showing how MJ lost his temper with the author who wrote the article. The author joked a little about how MJ's marriage to Lisa Marie was a joke and the King of Pop started yelling and screaming,'How dare you think my marriage isn't real!' I was taken a back by how angry he'd gotten over a joke. As for the child molestation charges, I would get so mad if someone called him a pedophile and tell them off.(online of course) I once even told a stranger in a store who was an MJ fan that I hoped Jordie Chandler, Gavin Arviso, and Jason Francia would get killed by MJ fans, such as superfan Denise Pfeiffer, who got pretty close to killing the accuser. The fan vehemently agreed with me. I even told my mom how I felt about MJ's accusers and she got mad at me. I was losing friends over a superstar. Being an MJ fan was taking its toll on my social life. Long story short, I still listen to MJ's music and watch the dvds that I still own, but I don't consider myself a huge fan anymore. On the other hand, I do not consider myself a 'hater,' though I know several superfans on this forum who would call me that just because I may not agree with them. I call myself and other former superfans 'realists.' I don't go on the major Mj fansites anymore and refuse to view the hate pages dedicated to hating and cyberbullying to death the accusers, like Wade, Jordie and Gavin. I would never go that far, although I wanted to back when I was an obsessed superfan. That's why this post is for the realists, that's why I am not signed up yet. That's also the reason for my pseudonym, Stella. I know I will probably get a lot of retaliation from angry fans, but remember this: I still listen to MJ's music and do projects related to him. However, I am not an obsessed fan anymore. I may not share the same views that I once held when I was a hardcore fan, but I respect your views on the matter as long as you respect mine. And to the realists, I hope you will begin to see the open-mindedness that a former fan has to share with you.
Well that's a good start I guess. MJ fans are by far the most attached fan base I have witnesses, and not in a good way. The fact you understand this issue will perhaps open your mind into questioning his innocence to the very least.

Since: Jul 13

Location hidden

#13 Oct 24, 2013
FOREVER MICHAEL wrote:
<quoted text> robert plant look half alian and half back of the bus.
To call someone an alien whilst bawling over a scrawny looking creature is actually hilarious

“Best voice ever !”

Since: Mar 09

Devil's Hole

#14 Oct 24, 2013
FOREVER PEDOFREAK wrote:
<quoted text>shut up Looney tune.Led zepplin looks
Like shrek.and robert plant look half alian and half back of the bus.so follow your looneys
Shrek (Led zep) and robert plant)
Find them some singing Lessions.and get plant
Guitar Lessions..they must be proud of there one
and only fan...enjoy each other..you deserve each other.you may need some ear plugs the musics bad.good Luck with that one.there going down with blaze glory.there ships sunk.zepp who plant who?
Semone must pee in your dirty mouth.
FOREVER MICHAEL

Croydon, UK

#15 Oct 24, 2013
Len is Disgusted wrote:
<quoted text>
Does your family know about your obsession with a pedophile?
perhaps one day you will have to go though what MJ been though.being accused and Judged for something you have never done. It may do you good.perhaps you wont be so quick to judge other.Michaels completely Innocent.
We owe Michael everything.he is the only one that matters.he is the only person we care about
He just makes all our life complete.
Hes the one I trust and the only perso I will ever listen to. Hes just perfect snd so very precious
persephone

Sunnyvale, CA

#16 Oct 24, 2013
Stella wrote:
I stumbled onto this forum after being a huge Michael Jackson fan for several years. I'd stopped for awhile, but then became a major fan again. I'd been pretty close-minded as a fan back in 2003 especially. I had joined two forums back then that were 100% pro-Michael Jackson and posted heavily about how much I loved MJ and wanted to meet him and proclaim my love for him, etc. You get the picture. In regards to his marriages to Lisa Marie and Debbie, I fought hard to get non-fans to believe MJ was heterosexual and was having romantic sex with Lisa Marie. I have an article showing how MJ lost his temper with the author who wrote the article. The author joked a little about how MJ's marriage to Lisa Marie was a joke and the King of Pop started yelling and screaming,'How dare you think my marriage isn't real!' I was taken a back by how angry he'd gotten over a joke. As for the child molestation charges, I would get so mad if someone called him a pedophile and tell them off.(online of course) I once even told a stranger in a store who was an MJ fan that I hoped Jordie Chandler, Gavin Arviso, and Jason Francia would get killed by MJ fans, such as superfan Denise Pfeiffer, who got pretty close to killing the accuser. The fan vehemently agreed with me. I even told my mom how I felt about MJ's accusers and she got mad at me. I was losing friends over a superstar. Being an MJ fan was taking its toll on my social life. Long story short, I still listen to MJ's music and watch the dvds that I still own, but I don't consider myself a huge fan anymore. On the other hand, I do not consider myself a 'hater,' though I know several superfans on this forum who would call me that just because I may not agree with them. I call myself and other former superfans 'realists.' I don't go on the major Mj fansites anymore and refuse to view the hate pages dedicated to hating and cyberbullying to death the accusers, like Wade, Jordie and Gavin. I would never go that far, although I wanted to back when I was an obsessed superfan. That's why this post is for the realists, that's why I am not signed up yet. That's also the reason for my pseudonym, Stella. I know I will probably get a lot of retaliation from angry fans, but remember this: I still listen to MJ's music and do projects related to him. However, I am not an obsessed fan anymore. I may not share the same views that I once held when I was a hardcore fan, but I respect your views on the matter as long as you respect mine. And to the realists, I hope you will begin to see the open-mindedness that a former fan has to share with you.
It's a fallacy and a mistake to assume that only 'fans' think he was innocent. There are enough loopholes and discrepancies in the various accusations to cause people to doubt he was guilty, and it has absolutely nothing to do with his fame.

Everyone who defends MJ doesn't do so just because they are or were a fan. You aren't being open-minded if you can't concede the possibility that he just might have been innocent all along.
Stella

Villas, NJ

#17 Oct 24, 2013
Actually, Persephone, I was more close-minded as a fan when I believed he was innocent. The friends I had were not fans and almost all of them were disturbed by his behavior with children. All the non-fans did not think his behavior was cute or innocent as you believe. I still look at those pix of him being cuddly Jimmy Safechuck and now think to myself,'Why didn't he smile and snuggle with Lisa Marie like that in their post-wedding photos?' Len, I have visited the site containing the legal documents and am still in the process of studying them. To those who think I am still a f'loon, I assure you that I am not the crazy fangirl I once was. I respect MJ, but am not the girl who thought MJ's behavior with kids like Jimmy was adorable. My family is helping me out and I am more understanding than I used to be. Trust me when I say my fangirl f'loon ways are far behind me. I know it will take a while for the realists to trust me, but in time you guys will see.

“at yet more f'loonspin”

Since: Aug 11

I live far away from f'loons

#18 Oct 24, 2013
persephone wrote:
<quoted text> It's a fallacy and a mistake to assume that only 'fans' think he was innocent. There are enough loopholes and discrepancies in the various accusations to cause people to doubt he was guilty, and it has absolutely nothing to do with his fame.
Everyone who defends MJ doesn't do so just because they are or were a fan. You aren't being open-minded if you can't concede the possibility that he just might have been innocent all along.
Pedophone, I don't regard a man as innocent when a group of lawyers and the judge looked at Jordan's drawing and description of Michael's blemished penis, as well as the photos of it, and knew the child was accurate. Remember the thread about what Judge Melville said? He said it was not hearsay. It was a match. I fail to see a loophole to help a child molester prove himself innocence.

I can repost all the links to the legal documents and court transcripts if you wish.

J-J-Jina Wild

“VITILIGO”

Since: Jun 10

IS A BIOTCH

#19 Oct 24, 2013
Stella wrote:
Actually, Persephone, I was more close-minded as a fan when I believed he was innocent. The friends I had were not fans and almost all of them were disturbed by his behavior with children. All the non-fans did not think his behavior was cute or innocent as you believe. I still look at those pix of him being cuddly Jimmy Safechuck and now think to myself,'Why didn't he smile and snuggle with Lisa Marie like that in their post-wedding photos?' Len, I have visited the site containing the legal documents and am still in the process of studying them. To those who think I am still a f'loon, I assure you that I am not the crazy fangirl I once was. I respect MJ, but am not the girl who thought MJ's behavior with kids like Jimmy was adorable. My family is helping me out and I am more understanding than I used to be. Trust me when I say my fangirl f'loon ways are far behind me. I know it will take a while for the realists to trust me, but in time you guys will see.
I won't. I will never care enough to trust you.

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#22 Oct 24, 2013
J-J-Jina Wild wrote:
<quoted text>
I think that the women that look at him and see 'HOT' have a touch of the lesbian about them and the men that look at him and think he looks good are a little bit fagg. There can be no other conclusion.
Mind you, shouldn't say too much because I used to fancy KD Lang before I knew she had boobs. Oooh, Missus!
Haha! I'm not sure what people that think MJ is HOT have going on, but to me, that's just craziness!:-)
Rickey Bobby

North Kingstown, RI

#23 Oct 24, 2013
persephone wrote:
<quoted text> It's a fallacy and a mistake to assume that only 'fans' think he was innocent. There are enough loopholes and discrepancies in the various accusations to cause people to doubt he was guilty, and it has absolutely nothing to do with his fame.
Everyone who defends MJ doesn't do so just because they are or were a fan. You aren't being open-minded if you can't concede the possibility that he just might have been innocent all along.
You talk about being open minded when you aren't open minded yourself. All you do is defend him. You never look at it from the other side. Everyone on here who defends him is a fan and a pedophile enabler. There are excuses for every shady thing he ever did, and the biggest pedophile excuse is he never grew uo, and he's still a child at heart. His fame and money to purchase the best defense had everything to do with him being found not guilty.

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