Michael Jackson sharing a hot tub wit...

Michael Jackson sharing a hot tub with 8-year-old Soleil Moon Frye

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Since: Jun 13

Raleigh, NC

#1 Jun 13, 2014
http://starcasm.net/archives/117264

"In the clip, she tells Roberts that:

“So there I was sitting with Michael Jackson, alone in his Jacuzzi, talking about life, love, and the secrets of the world. I was eight years old. Yes, I know you’re probably horrified, or at least a little confused as you read this, wondering how in the world I got there.”

She went on to add:

“Michael took my mother and me on a tour of his home. We saw his elaborate costumes encased in glass, his bedroom, all of his knickknacks, and his stunning recording studio … We watched ‘Willy Wonka,’ and Michael and I sat next to each other. He had a way of speaking as if he were a child, too.”

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OK, I'm not gonna insinuate anything happened because again, we can't always claim every time some adult is with an unrelated child, their first instant is to sexually harass them but it does show a pattern that MJ rather be around children than adults.

I posted this just to tell how unsettling it is. Sex or not, it's still inappropriate. I don't care if the man was child-like, why was this even tolerated? The fact that he invited this little girl, who just had turned eight at the time, to a hot tub by himself, and yet people wonder why we're upset that he was openly doing this?

I dare anyone to come here and say I'm just blowing smoke up my butt and how I'm overreacting. But a 25-year-old man and an 8-year-old girl in a hot tub by themselves is not normal. To be fair to Soleil, I DO believe her when she said nothing untoward happened, but do I still think it was inappropriate? Yes I do. And apparently this wasn't a lifelong friendship since they only met once apparently.

I read on another blog that when Soleil told this about three years ago (she was promoting a children's book at the time), the fans attacked her only because she brought up this. Even though she said no abuse, they still attacked her because they know it didn't look right. But they should've been angry at MJ and not Soleil. But again, Michael would've wanted his fans to attack anyone that didn't agree with his logic.
Rickey Bobby

North Kingstown, RI

#2 Jun 13, 2014
Nothing could be safer than an 8 year old girl in a hot tub with Michael Jackson. It's the 8 year old boy you would have to chaperone.

“at yet more f'loonspin”

Since: Aug 11

I live far away from f'loons

#5 Jun 14, 2014
Rickey Bobby wrote:
Nothing could be safer than an 8 year old girl in a hot tub with Michael Jackson. It's the 8 year old boy you would have to chaperone.
Were it not for the fact his eight-year-old cousin Simone Jackson repeatedly went by herself to his bedroom and slept with him, in the same bed, I'd agree. And for the most part, I do. But there is something very, very off with a man who wants to be alone in the hot tub, with any child.

“at yet more f'loonspin”

Since: Aug 11

I live far away from f'loons

#6 Jun 14, 2014
BadMan84 wrote:
http://starcasm.net/archives/1 17264
"In the clip, she tells Roberts that:
“So there I was sitting with Michael Jackson, alone in his Jacuzzi, talking about life, love, and the secrets of the world. I was eight years old. Yes, I know you’re probably horrified, or at least a little confused as you read this, wondering how in the world I got there.”
She went on to add:
“Michael took my mother and me on a tour of his home. We saw his elaborate costumes encased in glass, his bedroom, all of his knickknacks, and his stunning recording studio … We watched ‘Willy Wonka,’ and Michael and I sat next to each other. He had a way of speaking as if he were a child, too.”
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OK, I'm not gonna insinuate anything happened because again, we can't always claim every time some adult is with an unrelated child, their first instant is to sexually harass them but it does show a pattern that MJ rather be around children than adults.
I posted this just to tell how unsettling it is. Sex or not, it's still inappropriate. I don't care if the man was child-like, why was this even tolerated? The fact that he invited this little girl, who just had turned eight at the time, to a hot tub by himself, and yet people wonder why we're upset that he was openly doing this?
I dare anyone to come here and say I'm just blowing smoke up my butt and how I'm overreacting. But a 25-year-old man and an 8-year-old girl in a hot tub by themselves is not normal. To be fair to Soleil, I DO believe her when she said nothing untoward happened, but do I still think it was inappropriate? Yes I do. And apparently this wasn't a lifelong friendship since they only met once apparently.
I read on another blog that when Soleil told this about three years ago (she was promoting a children's book at the time), the fans attacked her only because she brought up this. Even though she said no abuse, they still attacked her because they know it didn't look right. But they should've been angry at MJ and not Soleil. But again, Michael would've wanted his fans to attack anyone that didn't agree with his logic.
I noticed her parents never left her alone, with him, again. I'm glad they realized something was wrong, with that picture.

His fans attack anyone who even mention something that looks odd.

Since: Jun 13

Raleigh, NC

#7 Jun 14, 2014
Len is Disgusted wrote:
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I noticed her parents never left her alone, with him, again. I'm glad they realized something was wrong, with that picture.
His fans attack anyone who even mention something that looks odd.
Right. Even Soleil herself admitted, and I think this is when fans got pissed, that she didn't think it was strange back then.

Since: Jun 13

Raleigh, NC

#8 Jun 14, 2014
^ Like were they expecting Soleil to say "oh he was such an angel". No she said she didn't know how odd it was back then to be alone with some grown stranger. And she recognized it as being odd and strange. Just like Terry George admitted how odd and strange it was when MJ talked to him about masturbation (and actually doing it) and how that actor from "The Office" (I think) mentioned how odd it was to see MJ sitting at the kids' table near him instead of the grown-up table.

“at yet more f'loonspin”

Since: Aug 11

I live far away from f'loons

#9 Jun 14, 2014
BadMan84 wrote:
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Right. Even Soleil herself admitted, and I think this is when fans got pissed, that she didn't think it was strange back then.
I watched the interview. She said looking back, it was a strange experience, which points out how questionable it is. F'loons hate being reminded his actions were suspicious, at the very least. Pre-surgery, he could have had any adult along in the hot tub, with him, male or female. But children? The topics she said they discussed are a little strange, too, for a child that age.

“at yet more f'loonspin”

Since: Aug 11

I live far away from f'loons

#10 Jun 14, 2014
BadMan84 wrote:
^ Like were they expecting Soleil to say "oh he was such an angel". No she said she didn't know how odd it was back then to be alone with some grown stranger. And she recognized it as being odd and strange. Just like Terry George admitted how odd and strange it was when MJ talked to him about masturbation (and actually doing it) and how that actor from "The Office" (I think) mentioned how odd it was to see MJ sitting at the kids' table near him instead of the grown-up table.
That children don't recognize red flags shows just how vulnerable they are to child predators. As adults, they all look back and realize what happened was odd.

Since: Jun 13

Raleigh, NC

#11 Jun 15, 2014
Len is Disgusted wrote:
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I watched the interview. She said looking back, it was a strange experience, which points out how questionable it is. F'loons hate being reminded his actions were suspicious, at the very least. Pre-surgery, he could have had any adult along in the hot tub, with him, male or female. But children? The topics she said they discussed are a little strange, too, for a child that age.
Life, love and the universe, I think, is what they said they talked about. But what does an eight-year-old know about "life, love and the universe"? That just makes it stranger. If he was supposedly child like, you think they talk about...well, child stuff. Then again, it's strange that a guy in his mid-twenties would be talking to some little kid in the first place.

Since: Jun 13

Raleigh, NC

#12 Jun 15, 2014
Len is Disgusted wrote:
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That children don't recognize red flags shows just how vulnerable they are to child predators. As adults, they all look back and realize what happened was odd.
It also goes to show you how Michael was able to cover it all up so that kids could be fooled by the appearance.

“at yet more f'loonspin”

Since: Aug 11

I live far away from f'loons

#13 Jun 15, 2014
BadMan84 wrote:
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Life, love and the universe, I think, is what they said they talked about. But what does an eight-year-old know about "life, love and the universe"? That just makes it stranger. If he was supposedly child like, you think they talk about...well, child stuff. Then again, it's strange that a guy in his mid-twenties would be talking to some little kid in the first place.
What she said they discussed always made it disconcerting, to me. You're right. What WOULD an eight-year-old child know, about those topics? If she said they talked about her favorite toys or her acting role, that would be different, even though it doesn't take away how questionable it is for a grown man to get into a hot tub with a small child.

In her testimony, Blanca Francia mentioned seeing a child in the hot tub, with Michael. So did his security guards. Yet another sign of a child predator. Getting children in situations where they have to change their clothes.

Since: Jun 13

Raleigh, NC

#14 Jun 15, 2014
Len is Disgusted wrote:
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What she said they discussed always made it disconcerting, to me. You're right. What WOULD an eight-year-old child know, about those topics? If she said they talked about her favorite toys or her acting role, that would be different, even though it doesn't take away how questionable it is for a grown man to get into a hot tub with a small child.
In her testimony, Blanca Francia mentioned seeing a child in the hot tub, with Michael. So did his security guards. Yet another sign of a child predator. Getting children in situations where they have to change their clothes.
It was a pattern of behavior. It's no coincidence that people who worked at Neverland said the same thing about MJ and hot tubs. Even Frank Cascio said he, his brother Eddie and MJ shared a hot tub with MJ while in London post-first molestation scandal.
Octopus

Clifton Park, NY

#15 Jun 15, 2014
The clown definitely had an obsession with flopping around nude in bubbles and sharing hot tubs with kids. He also had a habit of leaving soiled boy undies were maids and other emoloyees could see them by a shower or steaming tub. Of course, we know some of the details from witness testimony included in the legal documents that most floons refused to read. I wonder what the clown was fondling underneath the vibrating warm water. Totally inappropriate behavior that no doubt led to showers to rise off. The accusations from different sources that the clown was kissy, feely and full of giggles on several occasions. Of course, the clown wanted to see certain boys with their clothes off. He was probably flying high on cocaine and Jesus juice.
Octopus

Clifton Park, NY

#16 Jun 15, 2014
*where
persephone

Sunnyvale, CA

#17 Jun 17, 2014
BadMan84 wrote:
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It was a pattern of behavior. It's no coincidence that people who worked at Neverland said the same thing about MJ and hot tubs. Even Frank Cascio said he, his brother Eddie and MJ shared a hot tub with MJ while in London post-first molestation scandal.
Oh, so now it's 'inappropriate' to soak in a hot tub with a kid?

There's clearly no limit to how warped your imaginations are when it comes to MJ.

Since: Jun 13

Raleigh, NC

#19 Jun 17, 2014
BJ Novak recounting how Michael sat near him at the kids table: http://gawker.com/5774399/bj-novak-recalls-me...

“at yet more f'loonspin”

Since: Aug 11

I live far away from f'loons

#22 Jun 17, 2014
persephone wrote:
<quoted text> Oh, so now it's 'inappropriate' to soak in a hot tub with a kid?
There's clearly no limit to how warped your imaginations are when it comes to MJ.
Why would a grown man want to get into a hot tub with a child, as opposed to getting into a hot tub with adults? And why did people witness him behaving inappropriately with children, in those hot tubs?

You never cease to amaze me.

“at yet more f'loonspin”

Since: Aug 11

I live far away from f'loons

#23 Jun 17, 2014
BadMan84 wrote:
BJ Novak recounting how Michael sat near him at the kids table: http://gawker.com/5774399/bj-novak-recalls-me...
Interesting interview. Not once does he mention Michael interacting with the adults. Michael honed in on the little boy, started a conversation with him, and played games with him.

Since: Jun 13

Raleigh, NC

#24 Jun 17, 2014
Len is Disgusted wrote:
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Interesting interview. Not once does he mention Michael interacting with the adults. Michael honed in on the little boy, started a conversation with him, and played games with him.
And this was a 32-year-old man at that point. It's funny how after his death, suddenly these celebrities mention these weird encounters and it just makes the guy even creepier. Getting a 8-year-old in a hot tub, sitting next to a 11-year-old boy at a kids table, etc.

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#25 Jun 20, 2014
BadMan84 wrote:
^ Like were they expecting Soleil to say "oh he was such an angel". No she said she didn't know how odd it was back then to be alone with some grown stranger. And she recognized it as being odd and strange. Just like Terry George admitted how odd and strange it was when MJ talked to him about masturbation (and actually doing it) and how that actor from "The Office" (I think) mentioned how odd it was to see MJ sitting at the kids' table near him instead of the grown-up table.
Well, we all know what idiotic and hateful morons Jacko's wackos are. It's like Aphrodite Jones comments earlier in the year when she questioned Pedo Pan's relationship with Jordan and acknowledged he was deeply obsessed with him to the point it was scary. That went down like a lead balloon, as fans live in a deep pit of denial and don't want anybody reminding the world just how utterly obsessed Jacko really was with little unrelated kids.

As for the hot tub thing? That's another red flag and it sounds like Wacko was using textbook paedophile behaviour in gaining the trust of the parents so he could, yet again, be in a one-on-one position with a little kid, this time seminaked in a hot tub.

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