Larry Wilson: You'll never guess who'...

Larry Wilson: You'll never guess who's prospering in hard times

There are 52 comments on the Pasadena Star-News story from Nov 14, 2009, titled Larry Wilson: You'll never guess who's prospering in hard times. In it, Pasadena Star-News reports that:

On returning from my annual family reunion in Texas last summer, I wrote about picking up the edition of The Economist in the Amarillo airport touting the many fiscal successes of the Lone Star State in contrast to our beloved California.

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Cable News Guy

Pasadena, CA

#1 Nov 15, 2009
Larry,

You fail to mention that these best performing locations all have low state/local taxes. You can't grow the economy if government is spending it all. It's amazing that the Obama stimulus of funding state/local government jobs (creating or saving jobs) is being offset in our State by continued overspending and under collection of taxes.

You may not want to literally go anywhere once you experience the potential impact of Obama healthcare, cap and tax, immigration reform, etc. on our economy. Shucks, there's no relief in sight even on the State level. Pray the tea party folks grow in large enough numbers to reverse the current political thinking.
Amen

United States

#2 Nov 15, 2009
I wouldn't move to Texas if you paid me to. Those guys in Hanalei have it right.
To be fair

United States

#3 Nov 15, 2009
It's not like Bush wasn't creating huge deficits with his wars. People who bash Obama have selective amnesia.
Cable News Guy

Pasadena, CA

#4 Nov 16, 2009
To be fair wrote:
It's not like Bush wasn't creating huge deficits with his wars. People who bash Obama have selective amnesia.
That's why I talked about being saved by the tea party folks. If you look and hear real hard, those grown ups are bipartisan and/or independents wanting the best for our Country. Yes Bush created huge deficits. But Obama is doubling and tripling those deficits in less than a year!

“a good community is OUR job”

Since: Mar 09

Pasadena

#5 Nov 16, 2009
Amen wrote:
I wouldn't move to Texas if you paid me to. Those guys in Hanalei have it right.
if you can defacto say you wouldn't move to Texas, then you don't belong there. Move to Hanalei.

As a previous poster stated.. one thing the prospering states have is low/no state income tax.

Imagine how much more spending my family would do, if we got to keep $40K we pay in CA state income tax?
Average American

AOL

#6 Nov 16, 2009
If Left Wing Larry Wilson were even a marginally reflective person, he would identify Texas' blueprint for economic success, and seek to apply that paradigm here in California.
Likewise, a reflective person would seek to identify what California's legislature is doing to retard the state's economic growth.

As another commenter clearly points out, Texas' economic health is due to lower taxes and lower state expenditures.
At the same time, California's pathetic state economy is due to its enormous taxes and astronomical state spending.

To illustrate just how much wasteful spending is committed by the California state legislature, consider this; Texas doesn't even have a state income tax, yet they can still run the state with the BEST economy.
Texas' legislators are part-time.
They only meet every other YEAR. That way, they're not sitting around meeting with lobbyists all year, as the corrupt California state legislature does.

Left wingers such as Larry Wilson embrace higher taxes, as well as more intrusive, bloated government into our daily lives.
Recently, Left Wing Larry wrote a column where he claimed to be upset with the California state legislature for the budget crisis---but that "anger" was just for show.
The truth is, Larry has long endorsed the policies of the Democratic-controlled legislature's tax & spend circus.
And in the future, Larry will continue to publicly endorse those left wing tax & spend policies in the pages of the Star News.

It's pretty simple.
Texas has lower taxes, and lower state spending. They have the best state economy in the country.

On the other hand, California has the highest taxes in the country, and the most state spending. California is bankrupt, and a state unemployment rate which is approaching 13%.
Change the zoning

United States

#7 Nov 16, 2009
Obama is doubling and tripling those deficits in less than a year, because Bush presided over a total economic collapse. Obama had no choice but to prop up the economy with massive spending.

True Freedom pays $40K per year in State tax, which means his income is probably over $400K/year. If you make that much money then stop whining about paying tax and move to Texas. It's worth a higher tax rate to me to stay the hell out of Texas.

Texas' economic health is because:

1. There hasn't been a hosuing boom there in 25 years and so there was no associated bust.

2. The one sector of the economy doing well is energy, which is the strength of the Texas economy.

3. The former President did everything in his power to help his cronies, er constituents, in Texas.

Let's go back 10 years. Which State had the better economy then, even with high taxes?

Since: Dec 07

Humble, TX

#8 Nov 16, 2009
Amen wrote:
I wouldn't move to Texas if you paid me to. Those guys in Hanalei have it right.
Good, we won't pay you, stay in LA. Thanks, we appreciate it.

Since: Dec 07

Humble, TX

#9 Nov 16, 2009
To be fair wrote:
It's not like Bush wasn't creating huge deficits with his wars. People who bash Obama have selective amnesia.
People who bash Bush have forgotten 9/11.
People from Texas

United States

#10 Nov 16, 2009
Must be morons if they think that Bush's sojourns into Iraq had anything to do with 9/11 or national security. He did a really good job in Afghanistan putting down the Taliban and capturing Al Qaeda leadership, at least. Money well spent. GWB is quite possibly the worst President the US ever had.

Since: Dec 07

Humble, TX

#11 Nov 17, 2009
People from Texas wrote:
Must be morons if they think that Bush's sojourns into Iraq had anything to do with 9/11 or national security. He did a really good job in Afghanistan putting down the Taliban and capturing Al Qaeda leadership, at least. Money well spent. GWB is quite possibly the worst President the US ever had.
It was on 60 minutes Sunday night how the people of the marsh's in Iraq have returned. Saddam drained the marsh's to kill off the people there as they stood against him in 1991. They are quite appreciative of Bush rescuing their way of life. He is also very much loved in Africa as he did more to conquer aids than any President before him.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/editoria...

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/17/g...

The worst president in history is in the Whitehouse right now. He's only taken 11 months to prove it, a new record.

Since: Dec 07

Humble, TX

#12 Nov 17, 2009
People from Texas wrote:
Must be morons if they think that Bush's sojourns into Iraq had anything to do with 9/11 or national security. He did a really good job in Afghanistan putting down the Taliban and capturing Al Qaeda leadership, at least. Money well spent. GWB is quite possibly the worst President the US ever had.
Funny thing, Bush said it didn't have anything to do with 9/11. It had to do with many nations agreeing after 9/11 the Saddam was an evil threat to the region. Also agreeing was the current secretary of state and 76 other senators who voted to go. We haven't seen a response yet from you lefties on that. I guess it's OK for hillary to say go into Iraq, but not Bush, eh? More dem double standards.
You are too stupid

United States

#14 Nov 17, 2009
For me to bother even crafting a response. Please stay in Texas and stop voting in federal elections. Thanks.
Petro

Brownsville, TX

#15 Nov 17, 2009
Amen wrote:
I wouldn't move to Texas if you paid me to. Those guys in Hanalei have it right.
Im from Texas and Im embarrassed, thats why I never admit it.
The Old Coach

Spring, TX

#16 Nov 17, 2009
You are too stupid wrote:
For me to bother even crafting a response. Please stay in Texas and stop voting in federal elections. Thanks.
You have no response. All you have is inferiority. I will travel where I damn well please, including kookoofornia when I need a laugh. I always vote in federal elections and always vote for the best candidate. They didn't win much in 08 but things are changing as you noticed Nov. 3. You can fool some of the people all of the time.......(execept libeals, they are fooled easy by empty promieses of their candidates).
The Old Coach

Spring, TX

#17 Nov 17, 2009
Petro wrote:
<quoted text>
Im from Texas and Im embarrassed, thats why I never admit it.
Try wearing a mask or moving. That will help.

“a good community is OUR job”

Since: Mar 09

Pasadena

#18 Nov 17, 2009
Petro wrote:
<quoted text>
Im from Texas and Im embarrassed, thats why I never admit it.
As a born and raised Texan, I am embarrassed for you too!
a) You say you never admit to being from Texas, yet in the same sentence you admit it. You are about as sharp as a bowling ball. Dumber than a box of rocks. Nicely done.
a) if you are not proud to be in Texas, it's time to relocate
Petro wrote:
True Freedom pays $40K per year in State tax, which means his income is probably over $400K/year. If you make that much money then stop whining about paying tax and move to Texas. It's worth a higher tax rate to me to stay the hell out of Texas..
Not whining, just making the point that I believe high taxes actually hurt the local economy. This does not just apply to income taxes, but also local sales taxes which are over 10% in some areas.

As income taxes increase, more of the wealthy (who bear a disproportionate percentage of the burden: top 4% pay 65.3% of all taxes collected) will leave the state, pushing us further into the hole.

As sales taxes increase, more folks will internet shop and buy out of state.

As for my family, moving to Texas would be a great option. However, my wife was born here, and has an ailing mother here... so leaving is not really an option at this time.

There are many things I love about living in California: the beaches, the weather, the mountains...

However, you mentioned some reasons for why Texas is prospering.. but there are many more:
a) try running a small business in California. Compare your worker's comp liabilities to the laws in Texas.
b) entitlements programs/ social welfare/ etc... many more people are milking teet here in California, hence, the State spend billions on public programs.

As a matter of opinion,(ie nothing more than anecdotal evidence to back this up), but when you are born and raised in Texas, you are taught to be strong, proud, and hold yourself up. Most folks in Texas are too proud to accept public assistance, or would work hard night and day to get off of it. In contrast, I believe, many here in California live above their means, get into trouble, then milk the system for every penny possible. It's more of a cultural paradigm here; therefore, Texas can spend a whole lot less per capita on public assistance programs.
The Old Coach

Spring, TX

#19 Nov 17, 2009
True Freedom wrote:
<quoted text>
As a born and raised Texan, I am embarrassed for you too!
a) You say you never admit to being from Texas, yet in the same sentence you admit it. You are about as sharp as a bowling ball. Dumber than a box of rocks. Nicely done.
a) if you are not proud to be in Texas, it's time to relocate
<quoted text>
Not whining, just making the point that I believe high taxes actually hurt the local economy. This does not just apply to income taxes, but also local sales taxes which are over 10% in some areas.
As income taxes increase, more of the wealthy (who bear a disproportionate percentage of the burden: top 4% pay 65.3% of all taxes collected) will leave the state, pushing us further into the hole.
As sales taxes increase, more folks will internet shop and buy out of state.
As for my family, moving to Texas would be a great option. However, my wife was born here, and has an ailing mother here... so leaving is not really an option at this time.
There are many things I love about living in California: the beaches, the weather, the mountains...
However, you mentioned some reasons for why Texas is prospering.. but there are many more:
a) try running a small business in California. Compare your worker's comp liabilities to the laws in Texas.
b) entitlements programs/ social welfare/ etc... many more people are milking teet here in California, hence, the State spend billions on public programs.
As a matter of opinion,(ie nothing more than anecdotal evidence to back this up), but when you are born and raised in Texas, you are taught to be strong, proud, and hold yourself up. Most folks in Texas are too proud to accept public assistance, or would work hard night and day to get off of it. In contrast, I believe, many here in California live above their means, get into trouble, then milk the system for every penny possible. It's more of a cultural paradigm here; therefore, Texas can spend a whole lot less per capita on public assistance programs.
You sir, are a gentleman. There is hope in California! Keep up the good work. I notice your ISP was San Mateo, I served in the Army with a guy from there back in the 60's. Great guy, Fort Hood Pool, racquetball and bowling champion. Only thing I could beat him in was the swimming meet. Imaging, someone from Texas beating a Californian in swimming. Oh well, go figure.
People in Texas are funny

United States

#20 Nov 17, 2009
Example:

Some of them think that Nasa Headquarters is in Texas. That's a laugh riot.

I wouldn't expect any less from our misinformed friends from Texas. I don't have all day to refute the misinformation and half-truths our Texan friends spout out. I love the Texan spirit of independence, but the ignorance and provincialism is appalling. At least the women in Texas are beautiful. I give you that.

Gotta run. "King of the Hill" is on.

“a good community is OUR job”

Since: Mar 09

Pasadena

#21 Nov 17, 2009
The Old Coach wrote:
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You sir, are a gentleman. There is hope in California! Keep up the good work. I notice your ISP was San Mateo, I served in the Army with a guy from there back in the 60's. Great guy, Fort Hood Pool, racquetball and bowling champion. Only thing I could beat him in was the swimming meet. Imaging, someone from Texas beating a Californian in swimming. Oh well, go figure.
Thanks! And thank-YOU for your service to our country.

I still make it back to the Great State of Texas several times a year. I have alot of family in Dallas, Houston and Austin. I do miss Texas and Texans and hope to return someday.

In the meantime, I'll keep up the good work here, and y'all help all those Californian transplants learn what it means to be Texan... or else y'all will be in the trouble we're in ten years from now ~8^)

Saw a great bumper sticker on a car out here:
"American by birth; Texan by the grace of God " ~8^)
People in Texas are funny wrote:
I don't have all day to refute the misinformation and half-truths our Texan friends spout out. I love the Texan spirit of independence, but the ignorance and provincialism is appalling. At least the women in Texas are beautiful. I give you that.
Well, whatever you think about Texans is your own deal.. but there is not much refuting the facts:
the Texas economy is thriving, even in an awful economy
California is in a big old mess right now, and that light at the end of the tunnel just might be a train.

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