Prize Fight: Texas vs. California

Prize Fight: Texas vs. California

There are 8 comments on the TownHall.com story from Feb 4, 2011, titled Prize Fight: Texas vs. California. In it, TownHall.com reports that:

The contrast between the Lone Star State and the Golden State pits conservative principles against the same old liberal ideas that have driven a once-thriving California to the brink of utter disaster and ruin.

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socalgawfer

Trabuco Canyon, CA

#1 Feb 5, 2011
Companies continue to leave California, as our government does not
meet its responsibilities.
Basically the highest taxes of any state, with the exception of property taxes.
And property taxes are one of the largest targets of politicians and lobbyists who just can not get the idea of spending what you have, not what you want.

The best thing that could happen to California is for Washington to pass a law allowing states to go into bankruptcy.
Restructuring out of control spending and contracts that can not be maintained, AND mandating that taxes collected for a purpose be used only for that purpose. Too often, the citizens are sold a package of tax hikes on gasoline, alcohol, whatever evil of the day exists. Those taxes are sold as an answer to that evil (gas taxes, infrastructure?) and the money is siphoned off for special interests on BOTH sides of the mythical aisle

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Mexico

#2 Feb 5, 2011
socalgawfer wrote:
Companies continue to leave California, as our government does not
meet its responsibilities.
Basically the highest taxes of any state, with the exception of property taxes.
And property taxes are one of the largest targets of politicians and lobbyists who just can not get the idea of spending what you have, not what you want.
The best thing that could happen to California is for Washington to pass a law allowing states to go into bankruptcy.
Restructuring out of control spending and contracts that can not be maintained, AND mandating that taxes collected for a purpose be used only for that purpose. Too often, the citizens are sold a package of tax hikes on gasoline, alcohol, whatever evil of the day exists. Those taxes are sold as an answer to that evil (gas taxes, infrastructure?) and the money is siphoned off for special interests on BOTH sides of the mythical aisle
Yes they are……..Puerto Vallarta is full of ex California business owners happy running a business here.
Blue printing company.
Two companies that specialize in digital printing
Over 25 restaurants
A/c Company
Equipment Rental Company
In the marina there are 20 fishing boats for hire with California ports listed.
Toyota and a Honda dealership
Countless maintenance companies from gardeners to painters.
Countless construction companies.
Doctors and dentist
Tire store
Pharmacies
The list goes on and on of people that have closed a California company and re opened one here..

If they file bankruptcy the liberal loons would just run it into the ground again………
Ronald

Westminster, CA

#3 Feb 5, 2011
Here Is One wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes they are……..Puerto Vallarta is full of ex California business owners happy running a business here.
Blue printing company.
Two companies that specialize in digital printing
Over 25 restaurants
A/c Company
Equipment Rental Company
In the marina there are 20 fishing boats for hire with California ports listed.
Toyota and a Honda dealership
Countless maintenance companies from gardeners to painters.
Countless construction companies.
Doctors and dentist
Tire store
Pharmacies
The list goes on and on of people that have closed a California company and re opened one here..
If they file bankruptcy the liberal loons would just run it into the ground again………
Here Is One.

Good point. Take the example of Long Beach. Ever since the 60s 70s revolution, Long Beach has been a hotbed of 60s 70s style radical activism. The revolutionary activist element,(now in power), have promoted an endless stream of failed 60s era social and economic schemes.

Long Beach will need to compete for port cargo once modern port facility developments, such as the Punta Colonet harbor development, gets up to speed. There is also the prospect that, once Panama Canal improvements are made, giant container ships will be able to avoid the west coast entirely.

http://www.longshoreshippingnews.com/2010/09/...

http://www.nola.com/business/index.ssf/2010/1...

Still, Long Beach's elderly 60s era State Senator has proposed using Government force to impose yet another container tax on every container passing through the port. I wonder how long it will be before the politicians find out they will have to offer shippers taxpayer funded incentives to send their cargo through the Port of Long Beach?

Ronald

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Mexico

#4 Feb 5, 2011
Ronald wrote:
<quoted text>
Here Is One.
Good point. Take the example of Long Beach. Ever since the 60s 70s revolution, Long Beach has been a hotbed of 60s 70s style radical activism. The revolutionary activist element,(now in power), have promoted an endless stream of failed 60s era social and economic schemes.
Long Beach will need to compete for port cargo once modern port facility developments, such as the Punta Colonet harbor development, gets up to speed. There is also the prospect that, once Panama Canal improvements are made, giant container ships will be able to avoid the west coast entirely.
http://www.longshoreshippingnews.com/2010/09/...
http://www.nola.com/business/index.ssf/2010/1...
Still, Long Beach's elderly 60s era State Senator has proposed using Government force to impose yet another container tax on every container passing through the port. I wonder how long it will be before the politicians find out they will have to offer shippers taxpayer funded incentives to send their cargo through the Port of Long Beach?
Ronald
They are already competing with Mazatlan Mexico.
The Chinese are now unloading the majority of the ships here and then trucking the garbage north to LA.
The Chinese can have the cargo container sealed at the dock and it does not have to be re inspected by the Mexican government at the border. And every container load that leaves the country they get back the IVA they paid on entry.

When I first heard the Chinese were going to do this I thought it was because of regulations in the harbor might be less here.
I asked some people involved and they said no…The regulations and inspection are tougher here in Mexico.
It is the taxes and surcharges that make it cheaper to stop in Mexico and truck the stuff up to California ..
JEG

Upland, CA

#5 Feb 5, 2011
Ronald wrote:
<quoted text>
Here Is One.
Good point. Take the example of Long Beach. Ever since the 60s 70s revolution, Long Beach has been a hotbed of 60s 70s style radical activism. The revolutionary activist element,(now in power), have promoted an endless stream of failed 60s era social and economic schemes.
Long Beach will need to compete for port cargo once modern port facility developments, such as the Punta Colonet harbor development, gets up to speed. There is also the prospect that, once Panama Canal improvements are made, giant container ships will be able to avoid the west coast entirely.
http://www.longshoreshippingnews.com/2010/09/...
http://www.nola.com/business/index.ssf/2010/1...
Still, Long Beach's elderly 60s era State Senator has proposed using Government force to impose yet another container tax on every container passing through the port. I wonder how long it will be before the politicians find out they will have to offer shippers taxpayer funded incentives to send their cargo through the Port of Long Beach?
Ronald
Excellent point Ronald! That's what the Mexican Trucking entering the U.S is all about. To avoid union control at that port. What will happen to L.B and all other cities along the water? Who the heck knows but I don't want to have any business or investment along there. As far as those leftist politicians, they'll go down with the ship. They have so much intelligence that they don't bother listening to common sense. They're also lacking in wisdom to administer their intellect properly and will continue to drive down the path of destruction. And the unions will fuel them!

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#6 Feb 5, 2011
California has been an experiment in liberalism. The results of that experiment are coming in now.

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Mexico

#7 Feb 6, 2011
Publius2 wrote:
California has been an experiment in liberalism. The results of that experiment are coming in now.
drum roll please…………….
And the results are………………

FAIL…………………………BIG TIME………………..
Arnie

Spring Branch, TX

#8 Feb 6, 2011
I don't think that's the only experiment they have going on.

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