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U.S. Seeks Testimony of VA Man in Lesbian Custody Case - NBC29 WVIR Charlottesville, VA News, Spo...

There are 62 comments on the NBC29 Charlottesville story from Oct 15, 2012, titled U.S. Seeks Testimony of VA Man in Lesbian Custody Case - NBC29 WVIR Charlottesville, VA News, Spo.... In it, NBC29 Charlottesville reports that:

A judge says a Virginia pastor must testify before a grand jury investigating the kidnapping of a now-10-year-old girl by her mother, who refused to share custody with the Vermont woman who was once her civil union partner.

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Friend

Fairfield, VA

#2 Oct 15, 2012
They are investigating Philip Zodhiates and his daughter. Then they will go down the line of the dozen or so people and organizations against whom a civil suit has been brought.

The civil suit is public record as is the transcript from Ken Miller's trial, detailing who actually drove Lisa Miller to Canada. It was not Ken Miller.
Billy

West Chicago, IL

#3 Oct 15, 2012
Keep queers away from children !!!
Tree Shaker

Pittsfield, MA

#4 Oct 15, 2012
Sexual discourse and disobedience should never qualify as marriage, parenting, or a civil union and none should have to accept or pay for it. Our govt and justice system is going insane. This is what greed, war, hardcore drugs and alcohol do to your mind over time.
Friend

Fairfield, VA

#5 Oct 15, 2012
Janet Jenkins only focused on Ken Miller because his Amish-Mennonite faith made him an easy target. The point in getting him into court was to get the names and testimony to go after the people with the big bucks.

Here's the link to the civil suit:

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/sites/default/f...

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#6 Oct 15, 2012
Let's try this ...

Let's ask the kid who she wants to live with.

Period.
Yellow Jellyfish

Pittsfield, MA

#7 Oct 15, 2012
snyper wrote:
Let's try this ...
Let's ask the kid who she wants to live with.
Period.
Maybe the kid is too young to make that decision.
Friend

Fincastle, VA

#9 Oct 16, 2012
snyper wrote:
Let's try this ...
Let's ask the kid who she wants to live with.
Period.
She was asked by the court--she wanted to live with Lisa Miller, her biological mother. She was resisting the court-ordered visits to Jenkins, which is what started all of this. She is 10 now. In most states a child has to be 14 to make the decision for themselves.

“A JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES”

Since: Aug 08

MUST BEGIN WITH A SINGLE STEP!

#10 Oct 16, 2012
Friend wrote:
<quoted text>She was asked by the court--she wanted to live with Lisa Miller, her biological mother. She was resisting the court-ordered visits to Jenkins, which is what started all of this. She is 10 now. In most states a child has to be 14 to make the decision for themselves.
Actually, you'd be wrong......this has always been Lisa Millers fault......she's the one that brainwashed Isabella, the one who lied, the one who made false claims and then the one who fled!!!

Lisa Miller has lost in both Vermont and Virginia Courts, and if the Courts had done their job correctly......Janet Jenkins would have Isabella now!!!

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#11 Oct 16, 2012
Friend wrote:
She was asked by the court--she wanted to live with Lisa Miller, her biological mother. She was resisting the court-ordered visits to Jenkins, which is what started all of this. She is 10 now. In most states a child has to be 14 to make the decision for themselves.
She was asked this AFTER her biological mother, allegedly with the best interests of THEIR child at heart, leveled false accusations of abuse and had refused visitation for several years. Makes you wonder.

Lisa Miller's good Christian friends are such hypocrites, their support for her has absolutely nothing to do with the allegedly sacred bond of biological motherhood, but her being able to pass herself off as a persecuted good Christian, they'd have dropped her like a hot rock if she was the unrepentant Lesbian and the non-bio Mom was going for good Christian Mother of the decade and willing to run off with their child when pressed.

Her friends are shameless. Using this child as a pawn to say legally recognized relationships between parents of the same sex and their children don't exist in the eyes of God and so they exist for nobody else either and we'll ship the Madonna and Child off to the wilds of Central America just to prove it. You're not an underground railroad to free the slaves, you're f'ing with child custody agreements on the basis of which parent claims to be the better Christian and least lesbian.

Anyone who knowingly aided and abetted her flight from civil justice should be prosecuted for their role, just as they would if this case had involved an opposite sex couple involved in a child custody dispute. Now if Lisa Miller suddenly redevelops the conscience that her friends have so lovingly convinced her to kill off and reappears before the Court, the desire to punish others for minor roles in this sick farce might abate. Her friends should seriously rejudge the advice they are giving her.
well-

United States

#12 Oct 16, 2012
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>She was asked this AFTER her biological mother, allegedly with the best interests of THEIR child at heart, leveled false accusations of abuse and had refused visitation for several years. Makes you wonder.
Lisa Miller's good Christian friends are such hypocrites, their support for her has absolutely nothing to do with the allegedly sacred bond of biological motherhood, but her being able to pass herself off as a persecuted good Christian, they'd have dropped her like a hot rock if she was the unrepentant Lesbian and the non-bio Mom was going for good Christian Mother of the decade and willing to run off with their child when pressed.
Her friends are shameless. Using this child as a pawn to say legally recognized relationships between parents of the same sex and their children don't exist in the eyes of God and so they exist for nobody else either and we'll ship the Madonna and Child off to the wilds of Central America just to prove it. You're not an underground railroad to free the slaves, you're **** with child custody agreements on the basis of which parent claims to be the better Christian and least lesbian.
Anyone who knowingly aided and abetted her flight from civil justice should be prosecuted for their role, just as they would if this case had involved an opposite sex couple involved in a child custody dispute. Now if Lisa Miller suddenly redevelops the conscience that her friends have so lovingly convinced her to kill off and reappears before the Court, the desire to punish others for minor roles in this sick farce might abate. Her friends should seriously rejudge the advice they are giving her.
there is no such thing as a "good LESBIAN Christian"...

“A JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES”

Since: Aug 08

MUST BEGIN WITH A SINGLE STEP!

#13 Oct 16, 2012
well- wrote:
<quoted text>
there is no such thing as a "good LESBIAN Christian"...
Why? Because you say so? Sorry, but you don't get to decide who is a Christian or not!!!

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#14 Oct 16, 2012
well- wrote:
there is no such thing as a "good LESBIAN Christian"...
According to whom, dear? Not all Christians would agree with you on that hon, so you're going to need more than a God says so from you on that one.
Native

Charlottesville, VA

#15 Oct 16, 2012
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>According to whom, dear? Not all Christians would agree with you on that hon, so you're going to need more than a God says so from you on that one.
Like it or not and agree or not, God has some specific directives on this topic.

“A JOURNEY OF A THOUSAND MILES”

Since: Aug 08

MUST BEGIN WITH A SINGLE STEP!

#16 Oct 16, 2012
Native wrote:
<quoted text>
Like it or not and agree or not, God has some specific directives on this topic.
Actually......no, He doesn't!!!

I often wonder why you can't keep your religious beliefs to yourself......they don't apply to all and they don't apply in a Court of law!!!

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#17 Oct 16, 2012
Native wrote:
Like it or not and agree or not, God has some specific directives on this topic.
So YOU claim, but not all Christians agree with you on what those directives actually mean. So unless you can talk God into speaking up for you, we'll just have to let the Christians agree to disagree and rely on what the civil law, you know, the ones which apply to ALL of us, call the shots. You remain shameless, even more so that you are no longer calling yourself "friend".
The Worlds Biggest Lie

Pittsfield, MA

#18 Oct 16, 2012
Oh Ricky! So nice of you to think that only Christains believe in God.
Now GTF outta my tent!
well-

United States

#19 Oct 16, 2012
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>According to whom, dear? Not all Christians would agree with you on that hon, so you're going to need more than a God says so from you on that one.
there is no such thing as "more than "God says so" ".
well-

United States

#20 Oct 16, 2012
NorCal Native wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually......no, He doesn't!!!
I often wonder why you can't keep your religious beliefs to yourself......they don't apply to all and they don't apply in a Court of law!!!
show me where God does not have a stand on homosexuality! Prove what you say. oh wait, you HAVE no proof because He does take a stand.
GOP

Charlottesville, VA

#21 Oct 16, 2012
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>So YOU claim, but not all Christians agree with you on what those directives actually mean. So unless you can talk God into speaking up for you, we'll just have to let the Christians agree to disagree and rely on what the civil law, you know, the ones which apply to ALL of us, call the shots. You remain shameless, even more so that you are no longer calling yourself "friend".
I wouldn't put a lot of stock in the rambling interpretations of humans, Christians or otherwise on these topics. The writings of the Bible are plain spoken about the relationships between male and female and do not allow the blurring of the lines. You are free to believe as you think best, but wanting it to be so does not make it thus.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#22 Oct 16, 2012
well- wrote:
there is no such thing as "more than "God says so" ".
According to whom, dear? You keep insisting that you're here to deliver God's say on the subject, but I'm not questioning God, I'm questioning you.

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