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Travolta's faith is unshaken

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Despite reports to the contrary, John Travolta has been and will remain faithful to the Church of Scientology, "now and forever," according to his spokesman.

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James Lightfield

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This is for those who have been misinformed about Scientologists and medical treatment. Your article omits to report that Travolta's son was on anti-seizure medication for years until they stopped working.

Scientologists go to medical doctors and take medicine, including pain killers.

]Scientologists do NOT take mind altering psych and/or street drugs. As to one reason, select "latest videos" navigational link at www.cchr.org

Anyone can learn how to resolve psychosomatic illnesses / emotional dysfunctions (caused by the stimulation of past traumas) from the just released Dianetics 2-disc "how-to use" DVD (4.5 hours /$20 US).

I have been a Scientologist for 40 years. I am not employed by any Scientology organization nor any affiliated organization.
Ron Savelo

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Jul 29, 2009
 
As a Scientologist, I am outraged at so much of the media's snide implication that Mr. John Travolta's religion was to blame for Jett's death. The truth is that Scientology provided John the tools to handle his son's spiritual condition through the standard application of LRH tech. Instead, John chose to poison his son with the psych drug Depakote. John, you are an embarrassment to all of Scientology for turning to the pseudoscience of psychiatry. This is the overt that pulled in the tragic end cycle of your son. Please, John, for the love of god, get your ethics in and PLEASE disconnect from the psychs.

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Jul 29, 2009
 
Ron Savelo wrote:
As a Scientologist, I am outraged at so much of the media's snide implication that Mr. John Travolta's religion was to blame for Jett's death. The truth is that Scientology provided John the tools to handle his son's spiritual condition through the standard application of LRH tech. Instead, John chose to poison his son with the psych drug Depakote. John, you are an embarrassment to all of Scientology for turning to the pseudoscience of psychiatry. This is the overt that pulled in the tragic end cycle of your son. Please, John, for the love of god, get your ethics in and PLEASE disconnect from the psychs.
P-U-B-L-I-C A-C-C-E-S-S

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Jul 29, 2009
 
Ron Savelo wrote:
As a Scientologist, I am outraged at so much of the media's snide implication that Mr. John Travolta's religion was to blame for Jett's death.
The Church of Scientology is in no way qualified to treat autism.(Or anything else)
Ron Savelo wrote:
The truth is that Scientology provided John the tools to handle his son's spiritual condition through the standard application of LRH tech.
In addition to the above, I know you have serious doubts about the "new basics." You're not stupid enough to believe that L Ron Hubbard was so sloppy he mixed up entire chapters in Dianetics. The only place you can get standard tech now is in the Freezone.
Ron Savelo wrote:
Instead, John chose to poison his son with the psych drug Depakote.
If Travolta had left in on it in defiance of CofS dogma, Jett might still be alive. John is aware of this and thats why he's questioning.
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John, you are an embarrassment to all of Scientology for turning to the pseudoscience of psychiatry.
Please explain why peer reviewed psychiatry is a pseudoscience while Scientologys "tech" gets a pass.
Ron Savelo wrote:
This is the overt that pulled in the tragic end cycle of your son.
At least you're honest enough to admit believing in that. The truth is though, bad things happen to good people. His "overts" and "with-helds" have nothing to do with it.
Ron Savelo wrote:
Please, John, for the love of god, get your ethics in and PLEASE disconnect from the psychs.
It sounds to me like he's more interested in disconnecting from Scientology. Good for him.

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Jul 29, 2009
 
doesn't anyone think the kid was creamated a little too quickly? seems strange

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Jul 29, 2009
 
Ron Savelo wrote:
As a Scientologist, I am outraged at so much of the media's snide implication that Mr. John Travolta's religion was to blame for Jett's death. The truth is that Scientology provided John the tools to handle his son's spiritual condition through the standard application of LRH tech. Instead, John chose to poison his son with the psych drug Depakote. John, you are an embarrassment to all of Scientology for turning to the pseudoscience of psychiatry. This is the overt that pulled in the tragic end cycle of your son. Please, John, for the love of god, get your ethics in and PLEASE disconnect from the psychs.
So you are "outraged" that the media implies John may have some responsibility but it's ok for you to directly say he WAS responsible?
Nobody blames Travolta, except you it seems, we are all in support of JT and his family and put the blame squarely where it belongs, on the practices of the unqualified, uneducated quacks in scientology and their unresearched, unproven medical claims. Provide one piece of evidence that scientology has any medical or mental health value.
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This is for those who have been misinformed about Scientologists and medical treatment. Your article omits to report that Travolta's son was on anti-seizure medication for years until they stopped working.
Scientologists go to medical doctors and take medicine, including pain killers.
]Scientologists do NOT take mind altering psych and/or street drugs. As to one reason, select "latest videos" navigational link at www.cchr.org
Anyone can learn how to resolve psychosomatic illnesses / emotional dysfunctions (caused by the stimulation of past traumas) from the just released Dianetics 2-disc "how-to use" DVD (4.5 hours /$20 US).
I have been a Scientologist for 40 years. I am not employed by any Scientology organization nor any affiliated organization.
Provide evidence of tests done by third parties that demonstrate that ANY part of scientology or Dianetics works. If scientologists are allowed to go to doctors that AREN'T scientology quacks, why was Lisa McPherson not taken to one?, furthermore wwhy was she removed from the care of qualified medical personnel and confined to room for over two weeks where the scientologists in "care" of her let her die?
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Jul 29, 2009
 
There was no story to begin with!
Just gossip.
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Jul 29, 2009
 
Ron Savelo wrote:
As a Scientologist, I am outraged at so much of the media's snide implication that Mr. John Travolta's religion was to blame for Jett's death.
Aa a citizan of the world. O a, outrafed that scientology and scientologists has engaged ib thins such as federal crimes
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Snow_White
raping children
http://www.shipbrook.com/jeff/CoS/strawn/
fraud
www.slatkinfraud.com/
www.youtube.com/watch...
sexual harassment
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2295720/sciento...
selling R.P.G's and weapons dealing
http://www.holysmoke.org/cos/scientology-weap...
Rachel99

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Jul 29, 2009
 
James Lightfield wrote:
This is for those who have been misinformed about Scientologists and medical treatment. Your article omits to report that Travolta's son was on anti-seizure medication for years until they stopped working.
Scientologists go to medical doctors and take medicine, including pain killers.
]Scientologists do NOT take mind altering psych and/or street drugs. As to one reason, select "latest videos" navigational link at www.cchr.org
Anyone can learn how to resolve psychosomatic illnesses / emotional dysfunctions (caused by the stimulation of past traumas) from the just released Dianetics 2-disc "how-to use" DVD (4.5 hours /$20 US).
So you're saying that autism is "psychosomatic"?

P.S. Do you REALLY think you're going to sell Hubbard quackery on this forum James?

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Jul 29, 2009
 
Ron Savelo wrote:
As a Scientologist, I am the tool to Scientology pseudoscience...
There, that's better...

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Jul 29, 2009
 
James Lightfield wrote:
Scientologists do NOT take mind altering psych and/or street drugs.
I guess the pinks and greys washed down with booze were reserved for your feckless leader...
Polly

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Jul 29, 2009
 
James Lightfield wrote:
]Scientologists do NOT take mind altering psych and/or street drugs.
Hmm, then why did LRH state "Benzedrine often helps a case run." in "The Intensive Processing Procedure" back in 1950?

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Jul 30, 2009
 
James Lightfield wrote:
This is for those who have been misinformed about Scientologists and medical treatment. Your article omits to report that Travolta's son was on anti-seizure medication for years until they stopped working.
Scientologists go to medical doctors and take medicine, including pain killers.
]Scientologists do NOT take mind altering psych and/or street drugs. As to one reason, select "latest videos" navigational link at www.cchr.org
Anyone can learn how to resolve psychosomatic illnesses / emotional dysfunctions (caused by the stimulation of past traumas) from the just released Dianetics 2-disc "how-to use" DVD (4.5 hours /$20 US).
I have been a Scientologist for 40 years. I am not employed by any Scientology organization nor any affiliated organization.
To look at it another way James, why didn't Scientology if it is as marvelous as you claim, cure JT's boy?
A clue:- Scientology doesn't work as it claims.

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THE RONBOT HUNTER

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Jul 31, 2009
 
To know if a cult is or isn't a religion you must go to what they claim or require you to sign.
The fact is that full and complete disclosure is always lacking in any Scientology contract.
Here is just .oo1 percent of the stuff you are not told.
LRH used God's Natural laws to make slaves of mankind!
"So long as a physiological phenomenon remains the knowledge of a few and is denied to the many it can be utilized to control the many." LRH (from Journal of Scientology Issue 4-G from Oct. 1952)
"This universe has long been looking for new ways to make slaves. Well, we've got some new ways to make slaves here." LRH (from PDC tape lecture #20 "Formative State of Scientology, Definition of Logic", given on 6 Dec 52)
"All men shall be my slaves! LRH
All women shall submit to my charms! LRH
All mankind shall grovel at my feet and not know why!" [L. Ron Hubbard, "Affirmations", late 1940s] Affirmations, exhibits 500-4D, E, F & G. See Church of Scientology v Armstrong, transcript volume 11, p.1886.
"Somebody some day will say 'this is illegal'.
By then be sure the orgs say what is legal or not."
L. Ron Hubbard, HCOPL 4 January 1966
"THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN CONTROL PEOPLE IS TO LIE TO THEM". You can write that down in your book in great big letters. The only way you can control anybody is to lie to them." - L. Ron Hubbard,
"Off the Time Track," lecture of June 1952, excerpted in JOURNAL OF SCIENTOLOGY issue 18-G, reprinted in TECHNICAL VOLUMES OF DIANETICS & SCIENTOLOGY, vol. 1, p. 418
"Scientology...is not a religion." - L. Ron Hubbard, CREATION OF HUMAN ABILITY, 1954, p. 251
L. Ron Hubbard's religion before he discovered physiological reactions was "Satanism".
He wanted to invent a new religion masked as being good, but in fact was totally evil so that he could take his place on the "Throne of the Beast," which he firmly believed himself to be the rightful heir. Being an evil Satanist he wanted to destroy all other religions and have Scientology as the only religion left on Earth. He wanted to be the RULER of the NEW WORLD ORDER and sit on the Throne of the Beast.
Barry

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James Lightfield wrote:
I have been a Scientologist for 40 years. I am not employed by any Scientology organization nor any affiliated organization.
Wow... I never had an opinion on Scientology until I saw this video. If Terryeo is from new york then he knows about that crazy Scientology reverend that yells at protesters claiming that they "smell like pussy" I am wondering if Terryeo is that person

Plus Scientology would be more viable if you dont charge for everything that you offer. It makes you seem like a business

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Barry wrote:
Plus Scientology would be more viable if you dont charge for everything that you offer. It makes you seem like a business
businesses sell products or services which have *value*
Buffalo Bill

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Scientology is quackery..this is the decade 2010-2020 it fades away...when the last org closes....don't be the last ones there drinking the Kool-Aid...
John Travolta will never be free of the Scions,they keep files..and blackmail him to keep him there...
shut down the cult and Travolta will be finally free
Buffalo Bill

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OT-8 you mocked up your past lives
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Psychology and psychiatry are pseudo sciences - little better than the idiotology known as "astrology.". Head shrinks do not practice science. They can merely speculate about various disorders - and who defines what constitutes a disorder in the first place? It's liberals like myself who cause so many problems in the public schools by forcing children into molds. We liberal shrinks declare that children should be so developed by a given age. Really? Who are we to judge how 'developed' a child should be at any given age? Humans are not robots or a well known form of plant life...

To have a phd in psychiatry is to have a phd in other peoples' opinions. It is not science. Neurology however, is science...but neurologists don't pretent to "know"
the answers.

My condelences to John Travolta. He is a great actor and a good man.
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