Is Keanu's Career in the Toilet?
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#293 Feb 20, 2012
I don't know if his career is in the toilet.
But I know that his heart and mind seem to be in the toilet.
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#294 Feb 25, 2012
Err....He's worth in excess of $300m. He obviously doesn't give a damn! Does what he wants, good for him. Who wants a load of paps flashing in your face anyway.

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#295 Feb 26, 2012
Keanu's career is not in the toilet. I don't think he ever will be there.

The toilet is where actors, even successful actors, go if they have several megaflops. The toilet is where unsuccessful actors go if they can't get work. There are other toilet dwellers, but Keanu is so skilled, he'll never go there.

That doesn't mean he's at the top of his game. He's not there and until he gets some things straightened out in his private life (which is part of his public persona, like it or not), he never will be.

IMO. All the fans are chirping about MoTC, but I see it as an attempt to keep busy while the real players are giving each other the business at the Oscars.

To illustrate, I would say that Tom Hanks and Sandra Bullock are headed towards the toilet. Hanks has had two flops in a row. They weren't megaflops but they just didn't create any buzz or interest whatever. I can't even remember the name of the one with Roberts.

Bullock still hasn't recovered from the Jesse James debacle and anyone who isn't a fan can see what that adoption was all about.

So, I think that Hanks and Bullock are headed towards the toilet, while Keanu isn't and probably never will be. I don't know why he's toilet proof and Hanks isn't. It's a funny thing. I'm not really a fan of either guy, but I see Keanu as being somehow immune.

In my dreams Keanu gets himself straightened out, settles down with a great lady, and becomes the great romance star he was meant to be - in his 50s.

But I don't think it will happen. To me, he reeks of "lonely guy".

JMO, as Andromeda says.

(By straightened out I intend no double entendres. I am just going through one of my "Keanu isn't gay" phases.)

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#296 Feb 26, 2012
JayneS wrote:
So, I think that Hanks and Bullock are headed towards the toilet, while Keanu isn't and probably never will be. I don't know why he's toilet proof and Hanks isn't. It's a funny thing. I'm not really a fan of either guy, but I see Keanu as being somehow immune.
If it weren't for Bullock funding her own projects, would she have worked as much? I don't think so. Am I right when I say, it seems every movie she's in she produces? I'm not saying I am. It just seems like it to me.

Hanks isn't toilet proof because he is not aging well. IMO, the bottom line is: he's not leading man believable. On top of not aging well, he's not rugged or sexy or close to ever have been a "bad boy". When I watched the trailer of him with long hair, my impression was "ewww".

KR can thank his Asian heritage for how well he's aging, his parallel music hobby which kept him "relevant" wen he wasn't filming, and his notorious motorcycle ways. Not to mention that he is (visibly) unattached.

Funny, all the attributes that his handlers may have considered a "liability" in the past, are what has contributed to his multi-generational allure today.

jmo!

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#297 Feb 26, 2012
Andromeda-1 wrote:
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If it weren't for Bullock funding her own projects, would she have worked as much? I don't think so. Am I right when I say, it seems every movie she's in she produces? I'm not saying I am. It just seems like it to me.
Hanks isn't toilet proof because he is not aging well. IMO, the bottom line is: he's not leading man believable. On top of not aging well, he's not rugged or sexy or close to ever have been a "bad boy". When I watched the trailer of him with long hair, my impression was "ewww".
KR can thank his Asian heritage for how well he's aging, his parallel music hobby which kept him "relevant" wen he wasn't filming, and his notorious motorcycle ways. Not to mention that he is (visibly) unattached.
Funny, all the attributes that his handlers may have considered a "liability" in the past, are what has contributed to his multi-generational allure today.
jmo!
Andromeda, It seems to me you are trying to turn a positive into a negative. You are making it sound as if Bullock's project are vanity projects.

Bullock does not fund her own projects. Having a producing credit doesn't mean that she funds her own projects - it can mean a lot of things in Hollywood but in her case I think it means she has an active hand in securing funding, that is, convincing other people to put their money on her name. She is successful in doing so because she has a terrific box office track record. This, coming from a Bullock non-fan. Just the facts.

In any case, her career is really not going well now.

A vanity project would be Henry's Crime,w hich Keanu spent $12 of mostly likely his own money, and which made (maybe) half that. I think most of that $12 went into James Caan's pocket.

Regarding Hanks' career, I agree with you. Not aging well.

Can I ask you an honest question, Andromeda, and I dont' want to pick a fight, just asking. Why do Keanu's fans always attribute all his positive qualities to his remote and fractional Asian heritage (one Chinese great great grandfather, I think) and then react with visible rage when someone like me points out that he's racially mixed, and that perhaps in his real world, he knows this and has been affected by it?

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#298 Feb 26, 2012
$12, LOL, I meant,$12 million. That was the prod. budget on IMDB.

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#299 Feb 26, 2012
JayneS wrote:
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Andromeda, It seems to me you are trying to turn a positive into a negative. You are making it sound as if Bullock's project are vanity projects.
Bullock does not fund her own projects. Having a producing credit doesn't mean that she funds her own projects - it can mean a lot of things in Hollywood but in her case I think it means she has an active hand in securing funding,
I wasn't making a positive into a negative, just an observation. My assumption was that she funded a lot of her own films through her own production company.
JayneS wrote:
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Can I ask you an honest question, Andromeda, and I dont' want to pick a fight, just asking. Why do Keanu's fans always attribute all his positive qualities to his remote and fractional Asian heritage (one Chinese great great grandfather, I think) and then react with visible rage when someone like me points out that he's racially mixed, and that perhaps in his real world, he knows this and has been affected by it?
I can only speak for myself.

To answer the first part of your question.... I have grown up with and worked with many Asians.*All* of them hold their age for years. One woman in particular I worked with when I was 26 looked the same age as me and she was in her mid forties. Her husband, a pharmacist, looked even younger than her and he was 50. His acne problem helped to reinforce his youthful "appearance" but that's beside the point.

It's not a given that his Asian lineage is the reason for his youthful appearance. It could be his mars 12 degrees of pluto in his third house.

(I jest, I have no idea what the hell I just said).

My point being is that I believe his youthful appearance is attributable to his (Asian) genes.

As for rage. Is that how you see it? The way I see it, everyone acknowledges that he is a mix bag of culture. Even he is on record as acknowledging he roots. Many times. However, I think where the discussion breaks down is when you get upset about him referring to himself as white.

He is white. He's also Hawaiian and Asian. It could be said he isn't any yet he is all. The interview you refer to was such a long time ago and if the whole interview was to be taken in context i believe the point he made wasn't about pretending to be something other than who is (unless he was disassociating himself from his *dad*). Not that he was disassociating himself from being Hawaiian or Asian. You may think the opposite and that's fine. The reason I threw his dad into the discussion was because of the time period in his life. For all anyone knows, maybe it was his way of telling his dad that there was no room for "him" in his life, without having to pick up the phone or write him a letter.

IMO, bourgeois white boy was more in reference to where and with whom he grew up (middle class Toronto) at the same time making reference to his good manners whom he credits his mum (anglo-saxon). The reason I believe that is because with the exception of that one interview (where he referenced UPBRINGING), there aren't any others referencing his HERITAGE unless he is referring it all. I'm not shouting. Just emphasizing.

My recollection/impression is that you have come across as believing that you can't be white if you've had a bit of red, yellow or black mixed in on your palate. That's a bit exceptional in my book. You don't agree. That's fine. Sometimes it's about agreeing to disagree.

Lastly, here in Canada (where he mostly grew up) we don't say, Asian-Canadian or African-Canadian. We say Asian, black, or Portuguese only if there are no other races mix in. We say, first generation Canadian (parents being immigrants).

Once another race is introduced, after a certain generation you are classified by everyone (I'm also referring to the government) as white.

The magic number is three.

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#300 Feb 26, 2012
Andromeda-1 wrote:
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If it weren't for Bullock funding her own projects, would she have worked as much? I don't think so. Am I right when I say, it seems every movie she's in she produces? I'm not saying I am. It just seems like it to me.
...jmo!
I also read this as a dismissal of Bullock and a ridicule of her standing as in the industry. It does read to me that you are saying Bullock produces vanity projects and that is how she gets work. She wouldn't be such a good fund raiser if she weren't such a box office draw.(Till now.) She's just doing what men do, take an active part in the direction of her career, and here you are, a woman, taking pot shots at her.

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#301 Feb 26, 2012
Carmen of Sedona wrote:
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I also read this as a dismissal of Bullock and a ridicule of her standing as in the industry.
Not a dismissal. Just an outsider's observation.

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#302 Feb 26, 2012
I'd also add, all the more power to her, and anyone else, if that were the case.

I deem "vanity project" a derogatory term.

IMO, if you can do for yourself, all the more power to you.

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#303 Feb 26, 2012
Carmen of Sedona wrote:
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and here you are, a woman, taking pot shots at her.
I'm not taking pot shots at her. How is assuming that one funding projects {for themselves and anyone else} a potshot?

Actors complain all the time that there aren't "strong", "good" or "lead" parts for women, minorities, etc. If they are capable of making those projects happen for themselves, how is that bad? Otherwise, how many parts would there be for [them] when all H'wood is interested in dong is blockbuster franchises.

jmo

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#304 Feb 26, 2012
And I would like to point out that my comment was in reference to Jayne S saying that Bullock was toilet worthy. Apparently I wasn't clear.

Let me be clear, I was pointing out that (contrary to what H'wood makes available,) she appears to have done okay keeping herself from whirling down the drain.

Off to the pre-Oscars.

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#305 Feb 26, 2012
PPS Owning you own (productive/successful) production company means that you are business savvy.

geesh

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