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Bon Jovi and Richie Sambora conflicting report on Richie and Jon's alleged feud

There are 92 comments on the Examiner.com story from Jul 24, 2013, titled Bon Jovi and Richie Sambora conflicting report on Richie and Jon's alleged feud. In it, Examiner.com reports that:

Jon Bon Jovi has once again been allegedly named as the villain in the mystery behind Richie Sambora's leave of absence on the 2013 "Because We Can" tour according to Radar Online reports on Wednesday, July 24. Jon Bon Jovi has made public statement after statement that Richie Sambora left the tour to deal with personal issues and may return at ... (more)

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Whopped

Dallas, TX

#21 Jul 26, 2013
He's broke. Not even Jersey. He's out of the band 4-good.
Barb Florida

Athens, TN

#22 Jul 26, 2013
I read these posts and I am saddened that this situation between Jon and Richie hasn't been resolved yet. It has gone on way to long.

We all know that Jon is the boss because it's his name and he is in charge of everything. BUT, there are three other members that make up Bon Jovi. Jon seems to forget this, without Tico, David and Richie, Jon could not be a solo artist. Jon writes songs with Richie. Richie has every right to want more money, It's not like they can't afford to give each of them a raise. Jon has so much money he doesn't know what to do with all of it.

As Jon says, Richie can come back anytime. Well why didn't he let him. Jon has a big ego and needs to get his head out of his A**. Smarten up or pretty soon you won't even have a band.

Just my opinion!

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#23 Jul 26, 2013
Barb Florida wrote:
I read these posts and I am saddened that this situation between Jon and Richie hasn't been resolved yet. It has gone on way to long.
We all know that Jon is the boss because it's his name and he is in charge of everything. BUT, there are three other members that make up Bon Jovi. Jon seems to forget this, without Tico, David and Richie, Jon could not be a solo artist. Jon writes songs with Richie. Richie has every right to want more money, It's not like they can't afford to give each of them a raise. Jon has so much money he doesn't know what to do with all of it.
As Jon says, Richie can come back anytime. Well why didn't he let him. Jon has a big ego and needs to get his head out of his A**. Smarten up or pretty soon you won't even have a band.
Just my opinion!
Good post and I agree (if a feud is at the heart of this issue).

One thing that has always confused me about this:

Jon says, "Richie can come back whenever he likes."

Richie says, "Jon is making it difficult for me to come back."

Barring a rehab issue on Richie's part (all of the 'inside sources' I have heard about claim he is healthy and sober, and he's looking good in pictures imo, so I choose to believe he's not using again, until proven otherwise)--then what could this mean?

Also, I think this issue is personal because, even with his last stint in rehab, Richie wasn't even gone this long. This has dragged on for so long now, and it seems there is some negotiation that has to go on to resolve it (we keep hearing Richie say, "Nothing is resolved yet.").
Black Jack

United States

#24 Jul 26, 2013
It has something to do with Jon's supporting Obama and trying to help push his obamacare. Richie isn't down with that. Screw Jon!
WeWantSamboraBac k

Winnipeg, Canada

#25 Jul 26, 2013
Black Jack wrote:
It has something to do with Jon's supporting Obama and trying to help push his obamacare. Richie isn't down with that. Screw Jon!
The politics forum is this way-------->
Black Jack

Opelousas, LA

#26 Jul 26, 2013
Truth hurts
Nate Dogg

Opelousas, LA

#27 Jul 26, 2013
Get over it people. Who cares about these washed up 80's hair bands still trying to act relevant. Why you think richie's keeps doing drugs; cause he's irrelevant.

See ya, I got a Poison show to attend.
Buzzed

Winkler, Canada

#28 Jul 26, 2013
Sararsfan wrote:
<quoted text>
One thing that has always confused me about this:
Jon says, "Richie can come back whenever he likes."
Richie says, "Jon is making it difficult for me to come back."
Barring a rehab issue on Richie's part (all of the 'inside sources' I have heard about claim he is healthy and sober, and he's looking good in pictures imo, so I choose to believe he's not using again, until proven otherwise)--then what could this mean?
Also, I think this issue is personal because, even with his last stint in rehab, Richie wasn't even gone this long. This has dragged on for so long now, and it seems there is some negotiation that has to go on to resolve it (we keep hearing Richie say, "Nothing is resolved yet.").
After swinging back and forth, to and fro, from thinking it was addiction again, or an argument, or belittling, or money, or creative differences, etc. etc., I'm now convinced it IS a money thing.
Jon says "Richie can come back whenever he likes" translates to "Richie can come back ON MY TERMS whenever he likes".(with no money changes)
And Richie says "Jon is making it difficult to come back" translates to "Jon is not giving in to what I want".(more money)
I think each is waiting for the other to fold. Richie is hoping the tour flops and Jon will realize he needs Richie in the band in order for the band to tour successfully. Jon is continuing to tour and raking in the money, showing Richie the band can go on without him. Unfortunately, it's these two stubborn attitudes that is slowly killing the band right before our eyes.(that, along with Jon touring the band to death)
rosa3

Perris, CA

#29 Jul 26, 2013
Interesting point, but if this was solely a "money" issue why would Richie have a problem with it now? What about the past tours? The past tours of this decade were just as successful, made money for everyone. If this was about money, I think Richie would have said something a long time ago, or left past tours, jmo. Now. I am just saying this hypothetically, do you think maybe he is asking more percentage of profit from this tour because maybe he needs money for his clothing line? I am not saying this as a bad thing, maybe he really wants to do the fashion line, do something different other than touring or music, not that Richie would give up either, but I think this is an investment for himself and perhaps something to give to Ava in the future, if she wanted to do this as well. Now, of course, this is totally hypothetical, but maybe he wants to have more percentage, and he is not happy at what he is being offered, if this is the case, then its perhaps why he has not rejoined the band, maybe they are doing behind the scenes negotiations. I don't know, just another theory I am throwing out there, especially since u mentioned that money might be the main reason for Richie's absence.
Buzzed wrote:
<quoted text>
After swinging back and forth, to and fro, from thinking it was addiction again, or an argument, or belittling, or money, or creative differences, etc. etc., I'm now convinced it IS a money thing.
Jon says "Richie can come back whenever he likes" translates to "Richie can come back ON MY TERMS whenever he likes".(with no money changes)
And Richie says "Jon is making it difficult to come back" translates to "Jon is not giving in to what I want".(more money)
I think each is waiting for the other to fold. Richie is hoping the tour flops and Jon will realize he needs Richie in the band in order for the band to tour successfully. Jon is continuing to tour and raking in the money, showing Richie the band can go on without him. Unfortunately, it's these two stubborn attitudes that is slowly killing the band right before our eyes.(that, along with Jon touring the band to death)

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#30 Jul 26, 2013
Buzzed wrote:
<quoted text>
After swinging back and forth, to and fro, from thinking it was addiction again, or an argument, or belittling, or money, or creative differences, etc. etc., I'm now convinced it IS a money thing.
Jon says "Richie can come back whenever he likes" translates to "Richie can come back ON MY TERMS whenever he likes".(with no money changes)
And Richie says "Jon is making it difficult to come back" translates to "Jon is not giving in to what I want".(more money)
I think each is waiting for the other to fold. Richie is hoping the tour flops and Jon will realize he needs Richie in the band in order for the band to tour successfully. Jon is continuing to tour and raking in the money, showing Richie the band can go on without him. Unfortunately, it's these two stubborn attitudes that is slowly killing the band right before our eyes.(that, along with Jon touring the band to death)
That makes a lot of sense. It would also explain Richie's comment that "Jon wants to see if he can pull off stadiums by himself" and Jon's awareness of Richie's words and his follow-up reply: "I don't want to talk about it."

If it's money, then it's a power struggle, obviously. By doing his fashion thing in the meantime, Richie is suggesting: "I don't need Jon; I have my own thing, and I am happy and successful." By continuing to tour and pulling in the crowds, not to mention, hearing fans say stuff like, "I didn't miss Richie at all; Phil X is awesome!" --Jon gets the feedback that Richie is not needed in the band in order to ensure financial success. I've been reading comments by fans on the band's Facebook page and elsewhere, and many fans don't seem to miss Richie at all. Many of them blame Richie for leaving the tour and are not feeling in any way charitable toward him.

If this is all true, what a sad mark on the legacy of Bon Jovi, and on their 30th anniversary, too.
rosa3

Perris, CA

#31 Jul 26, 2013
It is sad, a sad way to celebrate the 30th anniversary. I can't help but think that something must have happened right after his Hawaii vacation with Ava, and just before the tour resumed again in April. Something happened, something went wrong, he must have talked to somebody before he went on that plane to join the band. Do you think there is an outside source or influence that is ill advising him? Do u think this person told him to not join the band as a "protest"? Maybe he did want to join, but someone convinced him not to? A business manager? Maybe an associate from his clothing line?, maybe they thought that by not joining the tour, the band's management would oblige and give him more money? Again, all speculation here. This is going to sound silly, but I feel like Sherlock Holmes, trying be like a detective and figure this one out, haha.
Sararsfan wrote:
<quoted text>
That makes a lot of sense. It would also explain Richie's comment that "Jon wants to see if he can pull off stadiums by himself" and Jon's awareness of Richie's words and his follow-up reply: "I don't want to talk about it."
If it's money, then it's a power struggle, obviously. By doing his fashion thing in the meantime, Richie is suggesting: "I don't need Jon; I have my own thing, and I am happy and successful." By continuing to tour and pulling in the crowds, not to mention, hearing fans say stuff like, "I didn't miss Richie at all; Phil X is awesome!" --Jon gets the feedback that Richie is not needed in the band in order to ensure financial success. I've been reading comments by fans on the band's Facebook page and elsewhere, and many fans don't seem to miss Richie at all. Many of them blame Richie for leaving the tour and are not feeling in any way charitable toward him.
If this is all true, what a sad mark on the legacy of Bon Jovi, and on their 30th anniversary, too.
Buzzed

Winkler, Canada

#32 Jul 27, 2013
rosa3 wrote:
Interesting point, but if this was solely a "money" issue why would Richie have a problem with it now? What about the past tours? The past tours of this decade were just as successful, made money for everyone. If this was about money, I think Richie would have said something a long time ago, or left past tours, jmo. Now. I am just saying this hypothetically, do you think maybe he is asking more percentage of profit from this tour because maybe he needs money for his clothing line? I am not saying this as a bad thing, maybe he really wants to do the fashion line, do something different other than touring or music, not that Richie would give up either, but I think this is an investment for himself and perhaps something to give to Ava in the future, if she wanted to do this as well. Now, of course, this is totally hypothetical, but maybe he wants to have more percentage, and he is not happy at what he is being offered, if this is the case, then its perhaps why he has not rejoined the band, maybe they are doing behind the scenes negotiations. I don't know, just another theory I am throwing out there, especially since u mentioned that money might be the main reason for Richie's absence.<quoted text>
Last tour rumor was that Jon had cut the band members pay. Not sure if it was the percentages or per diem. Anyway, I've said this before here and I'll say it again, I'm not convinced that in May 2011 that Richie was in rehab, I heard (from a source)it was a money thing back then.(but they wanted the fans to believe it was a rehab thing which strangely enough would look better in the fans eyes) Why is it that when Richie got back he never had a solo song again? Why did some of Richie's guitar solos shift over to Bobby last tour? Things that make you go hmmmm.
Buzzed

Winkler, Canada

#33 Jul 27, 2013
Sararsfan wrote:
<quoted text>
That makes a lot of sense. It would also explain Richie's comment that "Jon wants to see if he can pull off stadiums by himself" and Jon's awareness of Richie's words and his follow-up reply: "I don't want to talk about it."
If it's money, then it's a power struggle, obviously. By doing his fashion thing in the meantime, Richie is suggesting: "I don't need Jon; I have my own thing, and I am happy and successful." By continuing to tour and pulling in the crowds, not to mention, hearing fans say stuff like, "I didn't miss Richie at all; Phil X is awesome!" --Jon gets the feedback that Richie is not needed in the band in order to ensure financial success. I've been reading comments by fans on the band's Facebook page and elsewhere, and many fans don't seem to miss Richie at all. Many of them blame Richie for leaving the tour and are not feeling in any way charitable toward him.
If this is all true, what a sad mark on the legacy of Bon Jovi, and on their 30th anniversary, too.
Yes, a very sad mark on what should be a celebration for their 30th year.
Nicky

Providence, RI

#34 Jul 27, 2013
Buzzed wrote:
<quoted text>
Last tour rumor was that Jon had cut the band members pay. Not sure if it was the percentages or per diem. Anyway, I've said this before here and I'll say it again, I'm not convinced that in May 2011 that Richie was in rehab, I heard (from a source)it was a money thing back then.(but they wanted the fans to believe it was a rehab thing which strangely enough would look better in the fans eyes) Why is it that when Richie got back he never had a solo song again? Why did some of Richie's guitar solos shift over to Bobby last tour? Things that make you go hmmmm.
Because Richie is unreliable so he cant be trusted with those things. To be perfectly honest, the whole Jon cutting band member's pay saga has turned into what resembles an urban legend at this point.
WeWantSamboraBac k

Winnipeg, Canada

#35 Jul 27, 2013
Nicky wrote:
<quoted text>
Because Richie is unreliable so he cant be trusted with those things. To be perfectly honest, the whole Jon cutting band member's pay saga has turned into what resembles an urban legend at this point.
Richie can't be trusted with what? LOL
BJ Fan

Canal Winchester, OH

#36 Jul 27, 2013
Buzzed wrote:
<quoted text>
Last tour rumor was that Jon had cut the band members pay. Not sure if it was the percentages or per diem. Anyway, I've said this before here and I'll say it again, I'm not convinced that in May 2011 that Richie was in rehab, I heard (from a source)it was a money thing back then.(but they wanted the fans to believe it was a rehab thing which strangely enough would look better in the fans eyes) Why is it that when Richie got back he never had a solo song again? Why did some of Richie's guitar solos shift over to Bobby last tour? Things that make you go hmmmm.
interesting theory but wasn't it reported that someone saw Richie at a rehab facility? it seems like I remember a comment somewhere as to this being the case.
Nicky

Providence, RI

#37 Jul 27, 2013
WeWantSamboraBack wrote:
<quoted text>
Richie can't be trusted with what? LOL
He cant be trusted to do something as basic as show up. I was responding to whoever asked why he didn't have a solo song and why Bobby got another solo.
WeWantSamboraBac k

Winnipeg, Canada

#38 Jul 27, 2013
Nicky wrote:
<quoted text>
He cant be trusted to do something as basic as show up. I was responding to whoever asked why he didn't have a solo song and why Bobby got another solo.
That is totally unfair to say when you don't even know why he isn't on tour.

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#39 Jul 27, 2013
Buzzed wrote:
<quoted text>
Last tour rumor was that Jon had cut the band members pay. Not sure if it was the percentages or per diem. Anyway, I've said this before here and I'll say it again, I'm not convinced that in May 2011 that Richie was in rehab, I heard (from a source)it was a money thing back then.
He was in rehab, 100% and it was no secret. That is why they were open about it and Jon was more open because they knew when he would be returning. Also at the last night for Phil X, Jon even said goodbye and thanks for everything. Nothing else but rehab last time.

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#40 Jul 28, 2013
Apparently Jon said this during is Justin Bieber comments at the show last night:

"I ain't tryin to get in US magazine, I've never been to rehab... there's no place I'd rather be than right here."

Ouch.

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