John BEFORE the marriage??

John BEFORE the marriage??

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mallory

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#1 Mar 20, 2009
I had always heard what a wild & fun guy he was when he was single (partying, women, etc). Does anyone know any stories or have first hand accounts about John from before he was married? I guess he won't be so wild now that he has settled down.
Charlie and Kim

Waynesboro, VA

#2 Mar 25, 2009
I remember a JD/ John Rich from Charlottesville I think it was 11 -12 years ago. Boy John could sing. I remember him being with a young lady that stood out cause she had a hickie on her neck. She had long reddish hair I think. He was really a nice guy to talk to and down to earth but seem to be all about work and the women. The problem I had with him was he wanted Kim my girlfriend to join him in his room that night and tried to kiss Kim a couple of times in front of me. He was cocky, but if I looked like that and could sing I would be to I guess or was it short mans syndrome.
We saw them a year or so later in the mall a with a baby in her arms and he gave Kim an autograph signed JD. and remembers seeing them kiss and Kim says wow they were in love. Kim thinks this was the west virginia girl.
John please get some help before you end up like so many other singers. Joan and West Virginia girl if you truly love him get him some help if not I would hope one his other women will do it.
Charlie and Kim

Waynesboro, VA

#3 Mar 25, 2009
I remember a JD/ John Rich from Charlottesville I think it was 11 -12 years ago. Boy John can sing. I remember him being with a young lady that stood out cause she had a hickie on her neck. She had long reddish hair I think. He was really a nice guy to talk to and down to earth but seem to be all about work and the women. The problem I had with him was he wanted Kim my girlfriend to join him in his room that night and tried to kiss Kim a couple of times in front of me. He was cocky, but if I looked like that and could sing I would be to I guess or was it short mans syndrome.
We saw them a year or so later in the mall a with a baby in her arms and he gave Kim an autograph signed JD. and remembers seeing them kiss and Kim says wow they were in love. Kim thinks this was the west virginia girl they say he wrote another you about on Cmt blog.
John please get some help before you end up like so many other singers. Joan and West Virginia girl if you truly love him get him some help if not I would hope one his other women will do it.
elise

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#4 Mar 25, 2009
OMG I can't believe he treated your girlfriend like that in front of you! Weren't you mad? Wasn't HIS girlfriend mad? That's the kind of behavior that gets him into trouble so much. He just can't leave girls alone!!

I really think Joan made a mistake marrying him. He was well-known for cheating with other girls while he was dating her, so she had to know about it too. Why would she put up with it for 8 years and then marry him??

Sadly I don't think Joan will be the one to get him to change. She has been around long enough to have done so. But he doesn't listen to her, or he wouldn't have cheated so much. OR maybe she just doesn't want to upset him and risk losing him. There seems to be alot wrong with their relationship.
Charlie and Kim

Waynesboro, VA

#5 Mar 27, 2009
Yes I was mad but he sad it would be a party. I don't recall if his girl was mad. But I do see how he gets into trouble. Just hope he settles down before something bad happens. I keep hoping I will bump into at the mall, but no luck. The biggest problem with there marriage is him and his lack of respect for her/and women.
Olivia

Phoenix, AZ

#6 Mar 27, 2009
check this out....this was less than a month before he got married....sounds like he is a pig--sucks cos he is hot!
http://celebucrap.typepad.com/files/complaint...
elise

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#7 Mar 27, 2009
He is really close to his grandmother and has 2 sisters, so he must have some respect for women. I think he has just become so jaded and cynical after being in the music business.

He sees the girls who only want him because he is famous, and he thinks all women have ulterior motives, so I guess he thinks "if they want to use me then I'll use them." Not all girls are like that, but how can he be sure? That's no excuse for his behavior though.

In connection with that, we should also remember that is wife was a model, and models are attention seeking by nature, so maybe that's why he has always kept her hidden. He wants to be sure she is only interested in him, not his fame, which is understandable. I guess she passed his test since he married her after knowing her for a long time, and knowing that she wouldn't interfere with his partying and cheating, and would stay in the background and not try to get attention for herself.

But he doesn't respect his wife or he wouldn't have cheated on her for so long and so publicly. That is a pattern of behavior that people shouldn't ignore. It says alot about their relationship and his frame of mind towards her. I don't care what he says in songs or interviews, that's just talk. Actions speak louder than words!

And I have never heard him mention love when he has talked about her. Alot of practical reasons but not love. He's so unemotional unless he is singing or writing a song, but that's what he does for a living. He can bring it out when he wants to put on a show. People shouldn't be so naive and think this is a fairy tale love story, open your eyes. It obviously is not and he knows it. I'm sure there is a prenup, just in case.

I think if he ever met a girl who he saw as his equal, who had nothing to GAIN from being with him, then he would trust her. But he just does not trust women. That's why he is incapable of having a healthy, faithful, and respectful relationship. He can be a real jerk sometimes, but I do feel sorry for him.

What I'm really worried about is him spending time in jail from all the fights he's been getting into. He's got 2 or 3 lawsuits filed against him. He is out of control. I hope he doesn't ruin his life.
lora

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#8 Mar 27, 2009
He is really close to his grandmother and has 2 sisters, so he must have some respect for women. I think he has just become so jaded and cynical after being in the music business.

He sees the girls who only want him because he is famous, and he thinks all women have ulterior motives, so I guess he thinks "if they want to use me then I'll use them." Not all girls are like that, but how can he be sure? That's no excuse for his behavior though.

In connection with that, we should also remember that is wife was a model, and models are attention seeking by nature, so maybe that's why he has always kept her hidden. He wants to be sure she is only interested in him, not his fame, which is understandable. I guess she passed his test since he married her after knowing her for a long time, and knowing that she wouldn't interfere with his partying and cheating, and would stay in the background and not try to get attention for herself.

But he doesn't respect his wife or he wouldn't have cheated on her for so long and so publicly. That is a pattern of behavior that people shouldn't ignore. It says alot about their relationship and his frame of mind towards her. I don't care what he says in songs or interviews, that's just talk. Actions speak louder than words!

And I have never heard him mention love when he has talked about her. Alot of practical reasons but not love. He's so unemotional unless he is singing or writing a song, but that's what he does for a living. He can bring it out when he wants to put on a show but not in a simple conversation. People shouldn't be so naive and think this is a fairy tale love story - open your eyes. It obviously is not and he knows it. I'm sure there is a prenup, just in case.

I think if he ever met a girl who he saw as his equal, who had nothing to GAIN from being with him, then he would trust her. But he just does not trust women. That's why he is incapable of having a healthy, faithful, and respectful relationship. He can be a real jerk sometimes, but I do feel sorry for him.

What I'm really worried about is him spending time in jail from all the fights he's been getting into. He's got 2 or 3 lawsuits filed against him. He is out of control. I hope he doesn't ruin his life.
elise

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#9 Mar 27, 2009
Sorry for the 2nd post. My 6 yr olds playing with the computer.
Jimmy

Waynesboro, VA

#10 Mar 27, 2009
So is it true the west virginia girl he wote another you about is still in the picture? because he says he will never find another you. I was just wondering cause I remember a guy like the JD in music Charlie talks about in a club by UVA. JD I met then was definitely into the women. I just wonder why all these pretty women he dates let him act like this, is it because they have self esteem issues? The girl he was with then was beautiful but wasn't very social but did like to party.

I agree he does not respect Joan because that is awful to get married and release a song about a lost love that you will never find again. IT SCREAMS SHE IS JUST WHAT I HAVE TO SETTLE ON.

If this girl gthen was so wonderful why won't she come back to him? Charlie you talk about a kid was it Johns?
nan

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#11 Mar 28, 2009
I heard John say in an interview that Another You was about how he would feel if he messed up with Joan, and she left. But she will never leave him and he knows it. She puts up with the cheating.

I think John is just really pretentious and dramatic. He wants it to look like he is this great guy who really cares, but he would be better off just not cheating. Songs are just words unless you back them up with your actions.
I think he is always thinking about his audience and his next album when he writes a song like that. It's not TRULY about him, that's obvious by his behavior. He doesn't care or he wouldn't cheat. It's that simple.

And I think he chose Joan for practical reasons, not necessarily just settling for her. Like Elise said, she has proved herself to him over the years. John seems to really plan his life step by step and now he want kids, so he married the girl he has kept on the side just in case. That doesn't mean he is committed to her or ready to settle down. He is still as wild as ever, and most cheaters continue to cheat if they know they can get away with it. I know that sounds cynical, but John is a very cynical guy.

John hasn't changed. Joan either can't or won't try to change him. I guess she is scared of standing up to him and losing him. I think alot of people are ignoring the red flags, because this is just not a great relationship. I don't think the marriage will last.
Mike

United States

#12 Mar 28, 2009
Nan, did you hear him say it was about what it would be like if he messed up with Joan because I saw the interview in which he said nothing at all about it being for her--he said it was what he'd be like if he wasn't going 20 hours a day and had lost someone--he did not mention Joan. Just wondering.... But I soooo agree about the red flags and how he's going to end up in jail or worse if he doesn't get control of the drinking. Maybe it's just part of his image, but that really wouldn't account for the fightsnow would it. WHat is all this buzz about him, UVA and a girl from WV? Dont you think that might be part of their relationship problem? All the talk about their private life--just because he's a celeb doesn't make it ok for us to delve into his married life, does it?
nan

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#13 Mar 28, 2009
I can't remember which interview it was, but I'm pretty sure he said it was about Joan.

I think when a celeb cheats publicly they should be called out for it, especially when they suddenly get married and reveal that they have been in a longterm serious relationship the whole time they were pretending to be single. What he did was wrong, and now he wants to act like it never happened, that he wasn't going around picking up girls just months before his wedding. That totally changes the way I feel about him. I still like his music, but he is a jerk.

Also seeing as how he has always cheated on her, it's understandable if myself and other people are skeptical about his feelings for her. I don't believe it when he sings Another You because he found other girls and cheated with them. He should just stop with the lying love songs and stick to the party songs. At least those are honest coming from him.

He is a hypocrite, and alot of his fans see him differently now. Maybe if he had been more discreet people would have nothing to talk about.
Carrie

Chaska, MN

#14 Mar 29, 2009
Wow, there are some really strong opinions being voiced here BUT that's all they are OPINIONS! It's someones interpretation of lyrics to songs he sings and what someone thinks they know. People have the right to voice their opinion and my opinion is this. Unless you know him personally and have facts these things being discussed here are true then, the person saying these things are just making it up as they go along. And really with all the problems in the world today is it that important to know whether he has cheated or does cheat now, if is marriage is real or not? I know I don't care but I like the guys music and that's enough for me.

And one last thought, if you don't like the guy or what he does, then move on, CHANGE THE CHANNEL!
craig

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#15 Mar 29, 2009
I bet there's a prenup. John is too smart to marry without one, just in case. Even he knows it probably won't last forever. Definitely not a fairy tale.
jay

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#16 Mar 29, 2009
Go to nashvillegab.com and check out the affidavits on John. His cheating over the years seems to be well documented.

I guess he has told Joan "What are you gonna believe? What you see or what I tell you?" Or maybe she just doesn't care.
Carrie

Chaska, MN

#17 Mar 30, 2009
I've stuck up for John as long as I can. I've seen and read the docs over on nashvillegab.com and there's the proof. John you have really messed up your life and probably are flushing your career down the toilet as I type. I've been a fan for so many years and have tried to look the other way or make excuses but I just can't support this anymore. So, I am no longer a John Rich fan and I hope there are a lot of people out there who will follow. Maybe then he'll realize what he's losing and get some much needed help for alcoholism.

And for Joan, I don't understand their marriage or why a woman would think it's ok to cheat or be with other women. I hope for her sake she was smart enough when the prenup was written that she at least gets something out of this besides a STD.
claire

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#18 Mar 31, 2009
OK let's be objective here.

I have read those affidavits too, and besides that I have heard alot of pretty bad stories over the years. But I think John is literally consumed by his own alcoholism. He is 2 totally different people when he is drunk and when he is sober. I think the alcohol is at the root of his violent behavior and legal troubles.

He needs rehab. He needs help whether he wants it or not. He has immense talent and potential, and I hate to see that wasted because of stupid booze and a wild life.

But I think Joan is the reason for his womanizing. He is seeking out other women because he doesn't want to be with her. Maybe he was pressured into settling down by his family and management, but he is not committed to her and never was. He rebels against anything that ties him down. He needs a new woman who is strong enough to handle his stubborness and help him with his alcohol addiction. Joan is not that girl.

I think if he ever got sober he would be a good person. He has a good heart, but he is so compulsive and reckless that he loses control. His family needs to set up an intervention for him. It could save his career, and maybe even his life.
sam

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#19 Mar 31, 2009
She was definitely smart. She stuck around and put up with the cheating and partying when other girls would have left him. Now she is his wife, which she probably considers to be worth the trouble ($$$$$).

But I bet the prenup is in John's favor not hers, since he's the one with all the money. He doesn't trust women any more than they trust him.
sam

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#20 Mar 31, 2009
BTW those are money signs that don't seem to show very well.

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