It Is Not A ... Crime To Touch Someone Who Says They Want To Have Sex With You, Even If You're Gay

There are 2 comments on the www.jdsupra.com story from Jul 25, 2013, titled It Is Not A ... Crime To Touch Someone Who Says They Want To Have Sex With You, Even If You're Gay . In it, www.jdsupra.com reports that:

John Doe (not his real name - but the guy shouldn't be singled out any more than he already has been. If you really want to see his name, it's on the opinion from the Fourth Circuit) wanted to have gay sex with a stranger.

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“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

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#28 Jul 26, 2013
Chance wrote:
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Maybe it is time YOU read the story. "Darling saw Mr. Doe on a trail hiking toward him. As they passed each other, Darling said hello. Doe grabbed his groin." Since when is saying "hello" initiating sex? Oh, of course, on Planet Gay, where EVERYTHING is about sex. I say hello to dozens of people in the course of a week. Not once has anyone ever grabbed my groin. I guess I have just been lucky that I haven't said hello to any gays.
But dear, Officer Darling did not arrest Mr Doe for grabbing his crotch to say hello, he waited until after he agreed to have sex with him and then arrested him for a booty tooch into his crotch. It was why Mr Doe's conviction was overturned. You can't be arrested for consensual foreplay, even if it is with an undercover cop. Sorry.

You're right about one thing, this sort of activity really doesn't need to be going on in a public park, but there are better ways to address it than badly thought out, ridiculously executed, undercover police stings. Uniformed patrols and closing the park at night, usually will send the folk who do such things elsewhere

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“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#31 Jul 26, 2013
Chance wrote:
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Maybe it is time YOU read the story. "Darling saw Mr. Doe on a trail hiking toward him. As they passed each other, Darling said hello. Doe grabbed his groin." Since when is saying "hello" initiating sex? Oh, of course, on Planet Gay, where EVERYTHING is about sex. I say hello to dozens of people in the course of a week. Not once has anyone ever grabbed my groin. I guess I have just been lucky that I haven't said hello to any gays.
I read the article. They were not having public sex.

FTA: "A few minutes later, Darling saw Doe again on an unofficial trial. They talked about the weather for a few minutes. Then Darling told Doe that Asheville - which they were near - was an open community that is accepting of gay folks.

Mr. Doe said that he "wanted to be F'ed."

Darling indicated that he would be into that.(the record says that Darling said that he replied "okay or yes, or something to that affirmative")

As Darling described it later, he "gave [Doe] every reason to believe that [Darling] was good to go. Mr. Doe then turned around - they were three feet or so away from each other - and backed into Darling.

With his left hand, Doe reached back and "very briefly" touched Darling's fully-clothed crotch.

Darling responded, "Police officer, you're under arrest."

The police officer approached him. The police officer was initiating the hook up.

The court even said they disagree with your claims.

You're like that guy on the All State commercial claiming all women are terrible drivers and all men are great drivers. Yet it's the woman who gets the safe driver bonus check and not the guy.

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