Three men stand up for Stamm

Three men stand up for Stamm

There are 35 comments on the Monterey County Herald story from Jul 26, 2008, titled Three men stand up for Stamm. In it, Monterey County Herald reports that:

Three former Pacific Grove High School students testified Friday that they hung out for years with accused child molester David Stamm and had nothing but positive experiences with him.

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Justice Gustine

San Mateo, CA

#1 Jul 26, 2008
Stamm said himself that he hid his pervert behavior - like other child molesters the crimes they commit against the victim are kept secret, out of shame or under threat.

And Richard Rosen - what a actor!
Mike Echols

Salinas, CA

#2 Jul 26, 2008
So he downloaded kiddie porn when those kids weren't living here, thereby negating their testimony.
EDUCATED

United States

#3 Jul 26, 2008
If you are there at the trial and hear every word said, can you then comment on the trial. I am sure there are many twist and tales to be said. This newspaper often distorts the truth to sell the paper. Beware of poor validation from the writers.
Richard Seaside

AOL

#4 Jul 26, 2008
To Justice Gustine
hid his pervert behavior. what are you talking about. Being gay is perverted? the man has the balls to tell the whole world he has experimented with men ( not boys) and you call him a pervert. Good grief! Did you see the horrible picture of the baby in court? Kiddie Porn and from waht I heard, the other pics (2) had not genitals showing and one had what the dr. said, the largest penis ive ever seen and theres soemthing wrong with it. hum...photoshop maybe?
Justice Gustine

San Mateo, CA

#5 Jul 27, 2008
Seaside Dick
To be openly gay is accepted in society. To hide it and deny it and act upon it with underage kids with no thought process on the possible outcome is perversion.

Give this San Quentin quail his due..
Biff

Santa Rosa, CA

#6 Jul 27, 2008
Yes he told the whole world he was gay after being exposed (pun intended). If you think these were isolated incidents I think you are mistaken. By the way what exactly is he "experimented with men?"
Richard Seaside

AOL

#7 Jul 27, 2008
Not sure what experimented with men means, i take it to explore a sexual experience, just a college chicks do with each other ( oh the good ol days). One person, who admitted he was on herion at the time of the police report, a witness who would not answer ANY defense questions, has something to hide himself..the truth maybe? I cannot imagine any reason for the victim to lie and be decietful in court..none. His story should be rock solid and not full of "i dont knows, i dont remember, my memory is bad" WHAT??? why did the "victim" run back to cananda with his boyfreind? is there a huge payday coming? why did the victim lie to the court about his sexuality, telling the jury he's straight, when just 3 months prior he opened up, met a man and moving to switzerland after Canada..?
Hiding ones sexuality, as many well known celebes, congressman, religious folks have done does not make them guilty of acting with a minor. None of us will ever know what did or didn't happen, we are either readign the paper for mis information or attending court to at least here testimony. Over 20 year running a bizznes, you would think more than just one junkie would have come forward, dont you think? even if most people hide these things, wouldnt at least one more pop up? something? a touch on the butt, a hug, something??? look at all the kind of cases. always multiple victims. I don't know. we can just agree to dis agree I guess
Mia

Jackson, CA

#8 Jul 27, 2008
David stamm is a dirty man. like the victim said. a Monster. It's a shame anone at that age has to go though what "John Doe" did.
its Definatly not right for a grown man to try and convince a 14 yr. old BOY that he's gay even if he was. he should be locked up. travling to Europe to have sex with boys is WRONG!
Sassy

Salinas, CA

#9 Jul 28, 2008
Mia, stop writing crap you know nothing about. Not boys,(Men). David Stamm is a good person whose being falsely accused by a low life. Oh but wait maybe you low lifes stick together. Being your probably under-educated, have no life, and like to point fingers by just hearing made up stories from a junkie. He's not clean and never will be. This John Doe was the sick one trying to hit on a man. Now he's trying to ruin him by exposing his sexuality. He's trying to profit off him for what? Hmm..Money. Its obvious this low life came out of the wood work to try and gain money by threating Dave. Dave was a successful business man and a great friend. I'm sure low life John Doe saw how great Dave was doing and decided that he too wanted the good life, but not by working for it, but by ruining a good man. so sad. Anyways That's his business. Don't point your finger when you are a close mind person to the truth of people that know Dave. Curse you and yours for being so mean and accusing a innocent man, you say he's quilty but what proof? there is none, but by your small unintelligent life and mind. I wonder if you were under amicroscope what dirty secrets you have that you rather it be your business.
Justice Gustine

San Mateo, CA

#10 Jul 28, 2008
Money? The money Stamm offered to buy silence?

Hope he gets prison.
Biff

Santa Rosa, CA

#11 Jul 29, 2008
RE: Sassy Why is there always defenders for people like this? You don't want to admit that a friend of yours could do something like this. Imagine that Stamm is now admitting he lied time and again to police. I knew Stamm many years ago. He always has young boys around him and was going on outtings with them to Magic Mountain. Not Great America or somewhere close. somewhere he had to stay overnight. He has been on the police radar for over 20 years. It just took someone to finally step forward to nail him. By the way most molesters are "nice guys" that's how they lure in parents to give their children over to them. Wake up and face reality. This wasn't Stamm's only victim but hopefully it will be his last. Also, since you are such a close friend maybe you could explain the $100,000 in cash he had shortly after he was charged with this offense?
Maria

Salinas, CA

#12 Jul 29, 2008
I found it odd that Stamm offered doe a check and not cash? if he indeed was tryinng to cover up an illegal thing, why not use all that cash he had? why offer a check? a paper trail? what does having a large amount of cash have to do with a molestation charge? Doe never claimed he was paid for sex. Reported but not deposited funds from 2 sucessfull busineses. ya..lets hang him...
Sassy

Salinas, CA

#13 Jul 29, 2008
Biff you may have known him from afar but not really know him. He's been forthcoming on why he clammed up. He had money because he was sucessful and people like you can only use that as a reason to find Stamm guilty. Everyone keeps cash at home of some kind. What other victims please don't talk crap to me about why people like me stand up for a friend. People like me know the definition of a friend. I'm believing in my friend until otherwise proven. No proof...I have a very handsome looking family and Never was Stamm weird, or creepy. I think people like you are homophobics and you don't care about the lies its because he came out of the closet, you now want to hang an innocent man. Note: I say innocent until proven guilty. Take a look at this John Doe and I'm sure if we expose his life, face, family, friends and his name, we would probably find nasty things about him. Being one he doesn't have a job, heroin addict, family are drug users. What kind of parents did he have? Who knows he may have young victims out there and maybe they would come forward if they saw this John Doe person. He I believe is the monster. I'm not standing up for a child molester, I'm standing up for a friend. If he is quilty unfortunately I too would be sicken by it and therefore end our friendship...why because liars I can't stand and because children should never be hurt by anyone. I'm looking at the facts. Also with that kind of money lying around I think he would have offered way more not chump change. Don't be a hater of people who have money lying around. Take a look at the banks lately our money isn't safe in there either. Who cares how much money he had, I don't care if it was a million that has nothing to do with the case...He payed taxes on it to the IRS...so your point is voided.
Biff

Santa Rosa, CA

#14 Jul 30, 2008
The point of the money oh great defenders, is that he was ready to go on the lam. If he had $100,000 in undeposited funds from his two successful businesses I imagine, knowing the businesses it was about six months receipts. Secondly, you have no idea how well I knew Stamm, close enough that I warned people with young boys in their families to stay away from him. Close enough that I talked to the police about him over 15 years ago. Stamm had a pattern and I was close enough to see it as were many others. It just took a long time for someone to step up. Your "friend" admits to being a serial liar. The accuser is a monster? How did he get that way? Your friend helped him along and what does it say about your "friend" when he wanted to have sex with this monster? It's time you seeked some professional help about denial.
Sassy

Salinas, CA

#15 Jul 30, 2008
Ohhh Biff...so sad..wow 15 yrs. ago they would have something. How sad and depressing your life is. You should be taking your own advice on professional help. Stamm explained why he lied. You have no excuses for your reasoning of lying about a person other than wanting attention from others and to have something to talk about so you can say I told you so. However leave the accusing to the court system. Thank god your not a lawyer or judge our world would be in a heap of crap if that were the case. Hopefully your not running for anything, because you would not get my vote. The police brought nothing up from 15 yrs. ago, however I will ask Mr. Rosen if there was anything report by a so called good samartian giving the police info. on the so called molester. John Doe wasn't this so called monster until later...The money wasn't just there all of a sudden, it was there for however long. Like I said money had nothing to do with it and besides the police gave back his money and they never even took his passport. What? nothing to say to that, huh. If he wanted to leave he could of, but he stayed to clear his name you big Dumb A. You were never a friend of Stamm, just a user. Most people tried getting close to Stamm because he was so successful and you all wanted something from him whether it was discounts, of this that and the other. all you so called friends that have now turned your back, are the kind of people I would never want to call my friends, just a sick individuals wanting any kind of attention no matter who they hurt with things they say about Stamm with again NO PROOF yet. If not Stamm now you'll have something to say negative towards somebody else. Its who you are. I have no denial as I said before I'm waiting to see solid proof.
Sassy

Salinas, CA

#16 Jul 30, 2008
Ohh. by the way Biff it wasn't $100,000 it was much less than that. I know, I was there.
Biff

Santa Rosa, CA

#17 Jul 31, 2008
Sassy, You seem to be the one with time on your hands as you seemed to know Stamm a little too well. He was sleeping with boys over 15 years ago in hotels at Magic Mountain per his admital at the time. Hmmm. As far as reports why check with the weasel Rosen why don't you check with the police and ask them how long Stamm had been on their radar. By the way, never have I stated I was a friend of Stamm so how could I be deserting him now. You probably think OJ was innocent.
Vaughn

Salinas, CA

#19 Aug 3, 2008
ok m derr , Biff. I know someone who befriended people with boys and who likes to coach young boys,goes out of town with the team. married a lady with 2 boys. you think this guy could be guilty just cause he did all that?
Biff

Santa Rosa, CA

#20 Aug 4, 2008
Vaughn wrote:
ok m derr , Biff. I know someone who befriended people with boys and who likes to coach young boys,goes out of town with the team. married a lady with 2 boys. you think this guy could be guilty just cause he did all that?
If child porn is found in his house and on his computer and there are complaints against him it could be possible. But there has never been a case of someone married being guilty of child molestation has there?
Sassy

Salinas, CA

#21 Aug 4, 2008
When there's kids that are so smart and even more educated on the computers than their own parents are nowadays, you never know if you have porn on your computers until way late. I have seen the kids using the cages computer and giggling and blacking out the screen before you get a chance to see what they were looking at. Better check your computers you may have porn on your computer and not even know it. And who hasn't had stupid naked pop up sent to them by other dirty minded grown-ups called friends. Kids especially boys are curious about the naked body as teens and yes they want to see girls their own age and older woman, its curiosity. That kind of material should never even be allowed on the internet, they who put it out there of children/adults should be held accountable and serve time. How did they acquire that kind of footage to expolit and make money, obviously by having the act done infront of them and a camera. Those are the monsters we should go after.

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