Obama: Gun-control advocates have to listen more

There are 665 comments on the WOI story from Jan 27, 2013, titled Obama: Gun-control advocates have to listen more. In it, WOI reports that:

16, 2013, file photo, President Barack Obama, accompanied by Vice President Joe Biden, talks about proposals to reduce gun violence at the White House in Washington.

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Tray

Tupelo, MS

#592 Feb 19, 2013
CB can see both sides wrote:
<quoted text>Wrong again, if these assult weapons were not used in the majority of children mass murders, I would not object the use of these weapons in the hands of responsible gun owners".
You can show me all the stats you wish, but I will counter with the majority of mass murders are committed with weapons that were developed after military type weapons which primary use is to kill as many as quickly as possible.
If you would, how many mass murders were and are committed with "blunt instruments", I'll wait for this answer.
Better yet, count how many school shootings happened with AR15s compared to all other school attacks. Let's see that "majority".
Tray

Tupelo, MS

#593 Feb 19, 2013
CB can see both sides wrote:
<quoted text>Wrong again, if these assult weapons were not used in the majority of children mass murders, I would not object the use of these weapons in the hands of responsible gun owners".
You can show me all the stats you wish, but I will counter with the majority of mass murders are committed with weapons that were developed after military type weapons which primary use is to kill as many as quickly as possible.
If you would, how many mass murders were and are committed with "blunt instruments", I'll wait for this answer.
Better yet prove not having an AR15 WOULD have prevented any of these "mass murders". There were 323 murders committed with a rifle but 496 murders committed with hammers and clubs in 2011. 949 murders with hands or feet. FBI stats.
Tray

Tupelo, MS

#594 Feb 19, 2013
The earliest known United States shooting to happen on school property was the Pontiac's Rebellion school massacre on July 26, 1764, where four Lenape American Indians entered the schoolhouse near present-day Greencastle, Pennsylvania, shot and killed schoolmaster Enoch Brown, and killed nine or ten children (reports vary). Only three children survived.
Tray

Tupelo, MS

#595 Feb 19, 2013
November 2, 1853: Louisville, Kentucky A student, Matthew Ward, bought a self-cocking pistol in the morning, went to school and killed schoolmaster Mr. Butler for excessively punishing his brother the day before. Even though he shot the schoolmaster point blank in front of his classmates, he was acquitted.
Tray

Tupelo, MS

#596 Feb 19, 2013
February 16, 1867: Knights Ferry, California Mr. McGinnis was shot and killed by his daughter's teacher when he threatened him for expelling his daughter from school. When McGinnis's son heard his father was dead, he returned to the school and killed the teacher
Tray

Tupelo, MS

#597 Feb 19, 2013
December 22, 1868: Chattanooga, Tennessee A boy who refused to be whipped and left school, returned, with his brother and a friend, the next day to seek revenge on his teacher. Not finding the teacher at the school, they continued to his house, where a gun battle rang out, leaving three dead. Only the brother survived.
Tray

Tupelo, MS

#598 Feb 19, 2013
June 23, 1871: Lagrange, Indiana Miss Anna Dwight was shot to death in front of her students by a rejected suitor.
May 24, 1879: Lancaster, New York As the carriage loaded with female students was pulling out of the school's stables, Frank Shugart, a telegraph operator, shot and severely injured Mr. Carr, Superintendent of the stables.
March 15, 1884: Gainesville, Georgia In the middle of the day, a group of very drunk Jackson County farmers left the Jug Tavern drinking and shooting their revolvers as they headed down the street driving people into their homes. As they approached the female academy, the girls fled the schoolyard into the school where the gang followed swearing and shooting, firing several rounds into the front door. No one was hurt.
January 20, 1891: Syracuse, New York In an abusive rage, Wilber F. Baker went to the Bassett Street School where his wife was teaching, entered the classroom and shot her five times, killing her. He was caught by police after a 40 mile chase.
Tray

Tupelo, MS

#599 Feb 19, 2013
March 30, 1891: Liberty, Mississippi During a school exhibition and concert given at the Parson Hill schoolhouse, just as the performances were starting in front of a large mixed audience of colored and whites, crowded with teachers, pupils, and spectators, a double barreled shotgun, heavily charged with shot, was fired into the assemblage by some unknown miscreant. 14 persons were wounded, some seriously.
Tray

Tupelo, MS

#600 Feb 19, 2013
March 26, 1893: Plain Dealing, Louisiana During an evening school dance, a fight broke out. When the smoke cleared; two were shot dead, two more were fatally wounded, and the high school's Professor Johnson was shot in the arm.
Tray

Tupelo, MS

#601 Feb 19, 2013
December 13, 1898: Charles Town, West Virginia During the School exhibition, a group of young men attempted to break up a student performance. The teacher Fisher, tried to throw the trouble makers out, when the group turned on him and several of the audience members jumped up to assist, when a free for all fight broke out. Harry Flasher was shot in the heart and instantly killed, Henry Carney was fatally shot in the back, Ralph Jones and two others were also fatally shot, George Gibson was shot in the hand, and Haz Harding had his skull crushed and several others received minor wounds.
Tray

Tupelo, MS

#602 Feb 19, 2013
February 24, 1903: Inman, South Carolina Edward Foster, a 17-year-old student at Inman High school, was shot and fatally wounded by his teacher Reuben Pitts after he had jerked a rod from Pitts' hands to resist punishment. According to the teacher, Foster struck the pistol Pitts had drawn to defend himself, thus causing its discharge. Pitts was later acquitted of murder.
Tray

Tupelo, MS

#603 Feb 19, 2013
December 16, 1904: Magee, Mississippi E. E. Mangum was shot through the head and killed by the principal of the high school, Professor J. E. Woodward. Mangum remonstrated with Woodward because he had administered a severe whipping to Mangum's 15-year-old son. Mangum finally lost his temper and shot Woodward through the wrist. Woodward was handed a pistol by a bystander and shot Mangum through the head.
Tray

Tupelo, MS

#604 Feb 19, 2013
September 11, 1909: Gravette, Arkansas John Butram, an unruly student at the Bear Hollow School announced to his fellow students that school is canceled. The teacher, A.T. Kelly insisted that the day's lesson was not over. Butram then drew a knife on his teacher, so the teacher drew his gun and shot him.
Tray

Tupelo, MS

#605 Feb 19, 2013
January 17, 1913: Honolulu, Hawaii While the children in the schoolhouse were quietly seated, Manuel Fernandez entered the classroom and shot his wife, the teacher, Johanna Fernandez killing her with a shotgun. Seven of the children were hit by the scattering buckshot, dangerously wounding one. He then shot and killed himself. Jealousy is quoted as the motive.
Tray

Tupelo, MS

#606 Feb 19, 2013
May 18, 1927: Bath, Michigan Bath School Disaster School treasurer Andrew Kehoe, after killing his wife and destroying his house and farm, blew up the Bath Consolidated School by detonating dynamite in the basement of the school, killing 38 people, mostly children. He then pulled up to the school in his car, then set off a bomb, killing himself and four others. This is the deadliest mass murder at a school in United States history and the world's first suicide bombing.
Tray

Tupelo, MS

#607 Feb 19, 2013
May 6, 1940: South Pasadena, California. After being removed as principal of South Pasadena Junior High School, Vieling Spencer shot six school officials, killing five, before attempting to commit suicide by shooting himself in the neck.
Tray

Tupelo, MS

#608 Feb 19, 2013
January 11, 1955: Swarthmore, Pennsylvania After some of his dormmates urinated on his mattress, Bob Bechtel, a 20-year-old student at Swarthmore College, returned to his dorm with a shotgun and used it to shoot and kill fellow student Holmes Strozier.
Tray

Tupelo, MS

#609 Feb 19, 2013
August 1, 1966: Charles Whitman age 25, climbed atop the observation deck at the University of Texas-Austin, and killed 16 people and wounded 31 during a 96-minute shooting rampage in the University of Texas massacre.
Tray

Tupelo, MS

#610 Feb 19, 2013
November 12, 1966: Mesa, Arizona Bob Smith, 18, took seven people hostage at Rose-Mar College of Beauty. Smith ordered the hostages to lie down on the floor in a circle. He then proceeded to shoot them in the head with a 22-caliber pistol. Four women and a three-year-old girl died, one woman and a baby were injured but survived. Police arrested Smith after the massacre. Smith had reportedly admired Richard Speck and Charles Whitman.
Tray

Tupelo, MS

#611 Feb 19, 2013
On Friday, November 1, 1991, Gang Lu attended a physics and astronomy department meeting in room 208 of Van Allen Hall. A few minutes after the meeting began, Lu shot four members of the department with a .38-caliber revolver.

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