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Going Topless? The Naked Truth About Women and Bare Breasts

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Daniel P from Long Island

“Protestant, Gay, Libertarian”

Since: Apr 08

Long Island, NY

#23 May 1, 2008
Well, it's PERFECTLY LEGAL in the State Of New York for a woman to go bare-breasted in public. Been that way for at least 20 years. (Look it up. Famous court case in New York.) i don't mind as long as they are good-looking.
Beasty

United States

#24 May 1, 2008
The problem is that the attractive female will make men horny when doing so. DUH!

Just like here in Los Angeles they wont serve Beer or booze of any sorts in topless clubs.

because they fear men would go crazy & start raping women.

& to be honest, I agree to in some respect.
I myself would love to see hot babes walking around topless.
but would it be ok for me to jack off from the privacy of my car while you walk by?
enjoying your freedom to the fullist?

My point is it makes men horny!
& with all the creeps we already have raping women & such, would you really want to risk being the victom of some guy that just had to have you after seeing your Gifts.

& being I just used that word "Gifts".
would'nt you wanna keep that as a special gift for that special guy?
Big Tex

United States

#25 May 2, 2008
AnaM wrote:
<quoted text>
I like it when people use that term,'for herself,' but does a woman really have a ginormous implant for herself, or to fit into some stereotyped standard of beauty? I can understand a breast lift, because large breasts - as you mention - can create health issues with back and shoulder pain, but boobs, like vaginas are all different, and boob implants tend to make boobs resemble a standard. I personally don't think that Pamela Anderson-Lee needs huge implants to be attractive, neither does Dolly Parton. They'd still be attractive without the boobs.
I don't buy into that 'for herself' notion because a lot of women don't inflate their boobs to ridiculous sizes for themselves, they do it for other reasons such as sexual attractiveness, and that's cool too - if they're open and admit to that, instead of using the tired 'it's for myself', it's for making an impression on the opposite gender, or gaining some sort of attention, which is fine, but c'mon we're not all born yesterday. My issue with that relates to why women feel they have to subject themselves to implants - that have to be replaced over time anyway (as they're not permanent)- and scalpels in order to feel like they belong.
I really can't make my mind up can we see yours?

“I came, I saw...I clicked!”

Since: Feb 08

Sydney, Australia

#26 May 2, 2008
no

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#27 May 2, 2008
Boobies don't impress me much!!

Yeah I notice them but that is all really.

Thing is my old hometown had topless bathing and a nudist beach....believe me Uu can have to much of a good thing LMAO

Seriously I round that I took no notice of them really. In fact I had times when I was pissed because all I wanted to do was tan up and some ladies friend asks "Will you put some lotion on my friend?" .."No now fug off!" hehe or even worse. The local testosterone fueled lager boys see a pair of "Brown Pointers" and hitch their tent nearby..therefore spoiling the tranquility as they play there macho games to impress the lady..who promptly clears off because they wanted peace and quiet too LOL

I think once society was used to it, it would just find something else to bitch about :) It is like swearing now, the "f" word is now part of common usage..whether it is frowned on or not...heck even my Mum 73 uses it now :) to most people it means nothing these days :)

sage

“A Good Usama”

Since: Dec 06

Webster Groves, MO

#29 May 2, 2008
The reality is:

The appearance of a woman's body has a direct effect on the man. It also has an effect on women.

Capitalist media marketting strategies include the bodies of attractive women to sell products, draw viewership, hold attention, etc.

The 3 Abrahamic religions all encourage women to dress modestly, covering their attractive features. Other religions support this as well.

Do trendy sentiments (most likely instigated by the influences of mass media marketting and pop culture) know better than eons of human civilization?
American_in_Swed en

Uddevalla, Sweden

#30 May 2, 2008
Beasty wrote:
The problem is that the attractive female will make men horny when doing so. DUH!
Just like here in Los Angeles they wont serve Beer or booze of any sorts in topless clubs.
because they fear men would go crazy & start raping women.
& to be honest, I agree to in some respect.
I myself would love to see hot babes walking around topless.
but would it be ok for me to jack off from the privacy of my car while you walk by?
enjoying your freedom to the fullist?
My point is it makes men horny!
& with all the creeps we already have raping women & such, would you really want to risk being the victom of some guy that just had to have you after seeing your Gifts.
& being I just used that word "Gifts".
would'nt you wanna keep that as a special gift for that special guy?
"There was a time when a glimpse of stocking was looked on as something shocking. Now heaven knows, anything goes."

In Victorian times men would become aroused by the site of a woman's ankles or (even more scandalous) her knees. Men become aroused regardless of what she is or isn't wearing. To become horny looking at a woman is the nature of being a man.

And you're forgetting that rape is more about power over another individual than about arousal and sex. The "women have to cover themselves or men will rape them" argument is a very old and flawed idea. You're basically stating that men are incapable of any self-control whatsoever, and the second they catch a glimpse of a female nipple, they'll immediately attempt to rape the woman showing the nipple. Not only is that a completely ridiculous idea, but it makes men seem really bad, worse than dogs in fact.

Of course there are sickos out there who rape women, but they do it regardless of what she's wearing or not wearing. They do it because it's a sickness, a compulsion. Burqa-wearing women in the Middle East get raped, and they are completely covered from the top of their heads to the floor.

Women's nipples are not genitalia, so there's absolutely no reason why they should be covered up.
Beasty

Irvine, CA

#31 May 2, 2008
American_in_Sweden wrote:
<quoted text>
"There was a time when a glimpse of stocking was looked on as something shocking. Now heaven knows, anything goes."
In Victorian times men would become aroused by the site of a woman's ankles or (even more scandalous) her knees. Men become aroused regardless of what she is or isn't wearing. To become horny looking at a woman is the nature of being a man.
And you're forgetting that rape is more about power over another individual than about arousal and sex. The "women have to cover themselves or men will rape them" argument is a very old and flawed idea. You're basically stating that men are incapable of any self-control whatsoever, and the second they catch a glimpse of a female nipple, they'll immediately attempt to rape the woman showing the nipple. Not only is that a completely ridiculous idea, but it makes men seem really bad, worse than dogs in fact.
Of course there are sickos out there who rape women, but they do it regardless of what she's wearing or not wearing. They do it because it's a sickness, a compulsion. Burqa-wearing women in the Middle East get raped, and they are completely covered from the top of their heads to the floor.
Women's nipples are not genitalia, so there's absolutely no reason why they should be covered up.
You missunderstood my point.
what I was saying is that the county of Los Angeles saw it this way & thats why they will not serve booze/beer in any sort of adult entertainment facility.

It seems that the courts generally see this that way.

If you actually look at the way USA laws are written, its basically as that men are uncontrolable especially after drinking & do to that we should be blocked from viewing many sorts of sexual stimulating sights.
jonnybk

UK

#32 May 2, 2008
I have worked in many houses and women have shown their breasts at any opportunity,either bending foreward or wth a dressing gown on and accidently letting it come open.My wife likes to show hers at any opportunity.We have both been naturists,and when there is a man about they try to get in a position to see between her legs.She gets a lot of pleasure from this,and moving so thather legs open to let them see more.

“A Good Usama”

Since: Dec 06

Webster Groves, MO

#33 May 3, 2008
Rape using a man's organ requires for him to be sexually aroused. There is no other explanation for this physiological occurence except sexual arousal.

Now he may be aroused by the power, but nonetheless.

Women who claim that their bodies are sexual tend to wear clothes and follow fashion trends set by men, usually ammoral, hedonistic men of the art, fashion design world.

Early 20th century European artists led the development of modern fashion for women, including male French designers offering the bikini, Gustav Klimt offering sexy colors in fashion, etc.
So the irony is that men with the keen, aesthetic (and ammoral) eye for the sexual appeal of a woman's body are the ones leading the fashion industry, and laying down the principles of western fashion. So women who claim to be free of men and wearing that skirt that shows their delta of venus and those birthing hips are in fact following men's degenerate aesthetic depiction of womanhood.

And I say that as a talented, former artist who chose piety over promiscuity, austerity over audaciousness.
Semper Fi

AOL

#34 May 3, 2008
Beasty wrote:
The problem is that the attractive female will make men horny when doing so. DUH!
Just like here in Los Angeles they wont serve Beer or booze of any sorts in topless clubs.
because they fear men would go crazy & start raping women.
& to be honest, I agree to in some respect.
I myself would love to see hot babes walking around topless.
but would it be ok for me to jack off from the privacy of my car while you walk by?
enjoying your freedom to the fullist?
My point is it makes men horny!
& with all the creeps we already have raping women & such, would you really want to risk being the victom of some guy that just had to have you after seeing your Gifts.
& being I just used that word "Gifts".
would'nt you wanna keep that as a special gift for that special guy?
That's crazy. Guys would just have to control themselves just like they have to do now.

Years ago that kind of faulty logic was used to say that women who dressed sexy were "asking for it" if they got raped.

And taken to it's logical conclusion you're left with a society like Saudi Arabia where women have to keep every square inch of their bodies shapelessly cloaked and are not allowed to talk to men who aren't immediate relatives.

Daniel P from Long Island

“Protestant, Gay, Libertarian”

Since: Apr 08

Long Island, NY

#35 May 3, 2008
There is no federal law against nudity and I have been to beaches under the jurisdiction of the Feds, such as Fire Island. Many women go bare-breasted or nude there and I have never heard of a problem.

“Home at last!”

Since: Apr 08

The midwest

#36 May 3, 2008
I could certainly see automobile insurance premiums going up, if it was common practice.

“Home at last!”

Since: Apr 08

The midwest

#37 May 3, 2008
Semper Fi wrote:
<quoted text>
That's crazy. Guys would just have to control themselves just like they have to do now.
Years ago that kind of faulty logic was used to say that women who dressed sexy were "asking for it" if they got raped.
And taken to it's logical conclusion you're left with a society like Saudi Arabia where women have to keep every square inch of their bodies shapelessly cloaked and are not allowed to talk to men who aren't immediate relatives.
Excellent points, Marine. I've been to several Islamic countries over the past many years, and I wouldnt want to live in any of them.
calvin

Troy, NY

#38 May 3, 2008
AnaM wrote:
<quoted text>
I think it's true about the unnatural feeling. I'd like to say that I'm 100% comfortable going braless, but the truth is that I'm not. It feels strange, not only that, for women with larger breasts, it may not be practical, because there is no way to avoid the sense of extra weight, and then there is the reality of gravity, and a portion of the world thinks that women have perky boobs for all eternity and tend to expect that. Me personally, I think it's weird for a mature woman to have boob implants. It looks wrong.
i like you , dear
Beasty

Irvine, CA

#39 May 3, 2008
Semper Fi wrote:
<quoted text>
That's crazy. Guys would just have to control themselves just like they have to do now.
Years ago that kind of faulty logic was used to say that women who dressed sexy were "asking for it" if they got raped.
And taken to it's logical conclusion you're left with a society like Saudi Arabia where women have to keep every square inch of their bodies shapelessly cloaked and are not allowed to talk to men who aren't immediate relatives.
Crazy or not, dont change the fact.
Beasty

Irvine, CA

#40 May 3, 2008
Mojoe wrote:
I could certainly see automobile insurance premiums going up, if it was common practice.
LOL!!!! so true!

“A Good Usama”

Since: Dec 06

Webster Groves, MO

#41 May 4, 2008
How many rapes/sexual assaults occur in America annually?

Rape is a serious problem in the United States today. The United States has the highest rape rate among countries which report such statistics. It is 4 times higher than that of Germany, 13 times higher than that of England and 20 times higher than that of Japan.

Only 16% of rapes and sexual assaults are reported to the police (Rape in America: A Report to the Nation. 1992). In 1995 there were 97,460 rapes reported to law enforcement officials. At a 16% reporting rate, this means that there were actually closer to 649,733 rapes in the United States. Along the same lines, the number of rapes reported in New York state in 1996 was 20,911. At a 16% reporting rate, this means the actual number of rapes was closer to 139,406.(Computerized Criminal History, Feb. 1998)

The rate of false reports of rape is approximately 2 - 3% which is no different than that for other crimes. This is different than the 8% of reports which are unfounded. This means that in 8% of the rape cases reported the investigators or prosecutors deemed that the case was not prosecutable for any number of reasons. Only 2 - 3% of the reports however were fabricated stories

In 1997, 68.3% were perpetrated by someone who knew the victim.(Bureau of Justice's National Crime Victimization Survey, 1997) 78% of women raped or physically assaulted since they turned 18 were assaulted by a current or former husband, live-in partner or date. 17% were victimized by an acquaintance, 9% by a relative other than a husband and only 14% were assaulted by a stranger.(National Violence Against Women Survey, 1998)

Assault Characteristics

Rape and sexual assault are not crimes that usually occur in dark alleys or in deserted areas at night. As a matter of fact 6 out of 10 sexual assaults occur in the home of the victim or the home of a friend, neighbor or relative.(Greenfeld, 1997) 43.4% of rapes and sexual assaults occur between the hours of 6PM and midnight Greenfeld, 1997) and about two thirds occur between the hours of 6 PM and 6 AM (Greenfeld, 1997).

“A Good Usama”

Since: Dec 06

Webster Groves, MO

#42 May 4, 2008

“A Good Usama”

Since: Dec 06

Webster Groves, MO

#43 May 4, 2008
In 2002, there were an estimated 247,730 rape, attempted rape or sexual assault victimizations in America.(2002 National Crime Victimization Survey-NCVS)

It is estimated that one in six American women have been victims of an attempted or completed rape in their lifetimes
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