The cost of vegetables without illega...

The cost of vegetables without illegal aliens

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“Green card?”

Since: Jan 08

Tepic, Nayarit, Mexico

#1 Mar 22, 2009
How much would farm worker wages increase if some of these immigrant workers were not available? In 1966, one year after the end of the bracero program, the fledgling United Farm Workers union won a 40 percent wage increase for table grape harvesters. Average hourly farm-worker earnings were about $7.56 for US field and livestock workers in 2000, according to a USDA survey of farm employers, and another 40 percent increase would raise them to $10.58.
If a 40 percent farm-worker wage increase were fully passed on to consumers, and if there were no farm productivity improvements in response to higher farm wages, the 5-6 cent farm labor cost of a pound of apples or a head of lettuce would rise to 7-8 cents, and the retail price would rise from $1 to $1.02-$1.03.
A large increase in farm wages translates into a small retail cost increase because:(1) farm labor is a third of farmers' costs; and (2) farmers receive only a fraction of the retail price of food. For a typical 2.5-person consumer unit, a 40 percent increase in farm worker wages that led to a three percent increase in retail fresh fruit and vegetable costs would increase the spending of a typical consumer unit by $9 a year, raising expenditures from $301 to $310.
http://www.politicalbase.com/forums/topic/the...
German Ogre

Essen, Germany

#2 Oct 29, 2010
FAKE! Can't see your link. MADE UP NUMBERS! DISINFORMATION!
hallie

Reno, NV

#3 Oct 29, 2010
We get vegetables and fruits from Mexico and the are cheaper than if grown here. I compare those from Mexico at Trader Joes. If we didn't grow them here we would not them imported. 89cent store is full of imported goods and they are cheap.
Morris the Cat

Long Beach, CA

#5 Jul 17, 2011
German Ogre wrote:
FAKE! Can't see your link. MADE UP NUMBERS! DISINFORMATION!
If you think these illegals are so wonderful we can ship them ALL to Berlin, Bonn, Munich,... Just say when!
Storm Warning

Fort Atkinson, WI

#6 Jul 17, 2011
sub humans with no porta potties crapping on your dinner thanks to democrats with their hands on their tool
Morris the Cat

Long Beach, CA

#8 Jul 25, 2011
MeLikeBenzos wrote:
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Emo
tionally immature people talking out their asses on the internet.
YOU give these people $40 then...
ANNIE

Naperville, IL

#10 Aug 6, 2011
Morris the Cat wrote:
<quoted text> If you think these illegals are so wonderful we can ship them ALL to Berlin, Bonn, Munich,... Just say when!
WHEN
ANNIE

Naperville, IL

#11 Aug 6, 2011
4TH grade education to be a teaacher you are nuts.

How old do you think the average Mexican is when they start having babies?

How many of them leave their children in Mexico when they come here for work? 10 years later, the kids are still in Mexico and there are 4 or 5 more children aka anchor babies here giving the parents subsidies?
Morris the Cat

Long Beach, CA

#12 Aug 6, 2011
ANNIE wrote:
4TH grade education to be a teaacher you are nuts.
How old do you think the average Mexican is when they start having babies?
How many of them leave their children in Mexico when they come here for work? 10 years later, the kids are still in Mexico and there are 4 or 5 more children aka anchor babies here giving the parents subsidies?
We'll get along fine Annie. ;) We'll look out for each other. God bless!
Msforgotmyname

Ellicott City, MD

#13 Aug 12, 2011
MeLikeBenzos wrote:
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I am friends with many illegal immigrants (and no, I am not hispanic, I am anglo). I'm friends with the hardworking ones. Almost all are of higher character and have stronger family values that the typical american. They are also extremely friendly people. They are from Brazil. None are the welfare type or whatever. They should be all made teachers of inner city youth to teach them that it's possible to live the american dream, that it's possible to come from nothing and make something of yourself if you work hard. There are many 2nd, 3rd, and 4th generation welfare recipient citizens of this country in our inner cities who grow up and pop out a kid at 16 and spend their life on the dole. This is what they know and this is the cycle they repeat. The immigrants I know could instill an additude of success through hard work in them.
They can teach them how they crossed a dessert completely broke to come to a country that they did not even know the language of and took 2, 3, and 4 jobs (jobs that many of the welfare recipient bread teens would turn their noses up at) and saved their money and were able to buy a house or condo, etc.....
You bemoan illegal immigrants while we have millions of our own able bodied citizens living life on the dole (and I don't even blame them for this, I don't support or condone it, but don't blame them). After all, is it rational to get angry at a person who takes a $100 bill out of the hand of someone that is standing on the corner passing out $100 bills?(our government)
The actual 'problem' is entitlement programs. These programs deem people to be deserving of things for free while requiring nothing of them in return (not even sweeping the street corners 4 measly hours a week). I work in the social services industry and see the insanity up close and personal on a daily basis. Who is going to get a job earning $10/hr on the books when they get the equivalent of $18/hr in goods and services (subsidized housing, free healthcare, discounted public transportation, etc.. in addition to cash via social security at any age). The only requirement is to have a doctor deem them not able to hold meaningful employment.
So, essentially, they are getting reinforced BIGTIME for presenting themselves to be a person who can not hold a full time job. And I work in the system so to speak, and believe me, psychiatrists basically never deem a pesron able to return (or go to if they never did) full time work. Once on your on for life. The only people who get off are the one's who have a good chance of making substantially more than they do by not working. These individuals who are on the dole are not 'faking' when they get on the dole. But they get better over time, and most all are able to contribute to society in one form or another for the free living they get... but ENTITLEMENT programs prevent this. They are entitled to the money and housing, etc, etc.
There should be a requirement that they participate in rehab programs and volunteer jobs, etc to get them work ready. But no. And you complain about people who come here to work?
You sound intelligent but soooo misinformed. It's okay, we are all going manipulated to think and feel in these ways. "They" have played us good in believing just what you said. I know too much and it is too hard to educate people here so I was only say that you and as wrong as "they" are...
There are good places to get information on what is really going no all over the internet. To start, check out: http://www.justin.tv/search...
Also: http://www.justin.tv/galtreport#/w/1603212560...
Believe it or not "they" are trying to bring down America and are using the illegal workers to help with this. This includes an effort to depopulate the world. http://www.galtreport.com/index.php/component...
Msforgotmyname

Ellicott City, MD

#14 Aug 12, 2011
Meanwhile, I am so exhausted hearing people say these things that you said above. TIRED! It shows the real problem with America that has always accepted a certain amount of immigrates every year, including thousands every year from Mexico (without documentation); however, they have come by the thousand a week the past twenty years or so.

We cannot sustain this; however, only the most informed among us will realize this...

"They do not care about these people anymore than they care about us.
Misforgotmyname

Ellicott City, MD

#15 Aug 13, 2011
I guess I should not double task... I meant to say above:

We are all being manipulated to think and to feel in the ways you do. "They" have played us like puppets in believing just what you said.

The thing is the American dollar is being destroyed. The immigrate workers are willingly in some cases assisting in this plan... they are being used to displace the American workers who made this country great. Many are sending money earned in America back to their native countries. Yet, people like you speak fondly of them while watching the American dollar fall. This thing is happening in all European countries.

You said something about the inner city and alluded to their work ethics. You may want to take some time to learn how they got that way. Many poor countries, as well as neighborhoods here in the U.S. were manipulated to be and stay that way. All you need to do is to deny jobs and in many cases even use them providing a drug culture and guns and lack of education. Soon you will have a culture of chaos. How do you think so many Mexicans willingly crossed the border... they were kept poor and uneducated.

As for the poor neighborhoods here in the states, their chances of getting into jail became much greater after the prison system was turned over to big business.

In order to respect and know all American citizens one must open their eyes and study. The media is a force of misinformation to continue myths and form bias opinions but necessarily the truth. There seems to be an orchestrated attempt to turn us against one another and it is working.

Unless everyone does the right thing... we will all fail and lose the liberties a lot of us take for granted.
Misforgotmyname

Ellicott City, MD

#16 Aug 13, 2011

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