Up in smoke

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Tomorrow at midnight the last smoldering cigarettes will be snuffed out in barroom ashtrays across Maryland.

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Boris

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Jan 30, 2008
 
I don't agree with the "airbrushing" things out of previous pictures.
joe six pack

Nottingham, MD

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Jan 31, 2008
 
The Goverment imposition of the smoking ban is just another step to removing all of your freedoms. They now have control over private property and its use. You let them in airplanes first then they said lets go for the whole airport. Now they have stopped the use of a legal product that they make millions from to fund their social programs. If the saps paying the tax can't use the product, how long arte they going to buy it? Who will pay for the programs when their funding falls short? Democrats love social engineering. Unfortuneatly it always has unintended consequenses. The unintended consequense of this stupid move will be less money in the state coffers not only from reduced cigarette sales but from less alcohol sales as well. The less income tax paid by the unemployed bar tenders and the increased cost to the state for welfare of the single mothers who make up a majority of the neighborhood bars employees. lets not forget all the taxes paid and the donations made by the bar owners. All that will be left will be the TGI Friday's and Bennegins of the world. The corner bar will be a memory and Big Brother will be one step closer to running all of our lives. Starting tomorrow I know one single mother that will be $50 poorer a week because of the fools in Annapolis that insist on running our lives.
lung cookie

Edgewood, MD

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Jan 31, 2008
 
Howard County did this and I have been staying home, for other reasons, but I have talked to friends that own bars\restaurants and they have noticed a difference. Mostly they no longer have a wait to seat dinner patrons becasue the smoking space can now be used for to seat them. They eat and go. The smokers, they used to eat, drink, smoke and stay.
These are restaurant\bars at least they have food as a crutch for the lost revenue of missing smokers that drink.
The samll bars that only serve drinks and maybe cheese burgers will be gone. Probably they will turn into antique shops or some other equally hideous store front.
Enjoy your clean air non-smokers, now go home and beat your children into submission. You know you do it.
Mike

Owings Mills, MD

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Jan 31, 2008
 
Can't wait to go out Friday night to a smoke free bar. I haven't gone out since Dec just waiting for ban to start. I know a lot of people going out this weekend just to make a point that this is a good thing.
meme

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Jan 31, 2008
 
Huh? I'm a smoker and I have never thought of the "aura of the Smoky Bar" when I was smoking a cigarette in a bar or choosing which bar to go to. I am usually thinking, "Its nice to have a cigarette with my friends". This ban is more than just the loss of historical footnote or some artsy symbolism. Its taking away from the citizens right to choose how we'd like to live. It should not be trivialized as some reminder of a bygone era. It effects people NOW!
Rich

Scottsdale, AZ

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Jan 31, 2008
 
The ban will have no long effect on business. People in Arizona ranted and complained about it when it went into effect last May. Maybe some slowness of business for a short period of time but it doesn't last. Non-smokers who avoided smoke filled places end up going out more and smokers just go outside to smoke. Most smokers still go out because they want to socialize and drink.
Bigger effects on bars/clubs are more stringent DUI laws. Unless you make big $$$ cab rides add up and will restrict going out.

Rich
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Jan 31, 2008
 
Mr. Woestendiak's obituary for smoking in Maryland bars speaks of hundreds of years of history. Actually, much of that was spent spitting tobacco on the floor, not lighting a cigarette. Perhaps the Sun's files preserve an elegy to a brass spittoon?

And what about those movies with smoking? Big cigarette companies were all over Hollywood from the start, especially aiming to get more women to smoke. They succeeded, which is why lung cancer now kills more women in America than breast cancer. Decades of star endorsements-for-cash and Hollywood cross-promotion deals? Now, there's reason for nostalgia.

The cigarette makers didn't just serve a market, they created it — addicting new users through literally billions of dollars in hard-sell, soft-sell, product placement and the rest of it. This isn't atmospherics. It's advertising.

A half century after tobacco's link to cancer was publicized, with 430,000 Americans each year still dying by tobacco, Maryland's move isn't motivated by "political correctness." (The tobacco companies certainly tried to steer the politics another way.) Maybe it's about not letting the addiction do all the talking.

Doesn't sound like something Bogart would say, before he died of throat cancer, aged 57? Console yourself with this thought: the fewer years smoking, the more years drinking. Pacing yourself, of course.
BigSilentFont

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Jan 31, 2008
 
All the reputable economic studies (with proper methodology, and not paid for by tobacco companies) show that restaurant and bar receipts stay level or go up after smokefree measures.

The tobacco companies recruit vocal business owners — or, failing that, create their own astroturf groups — to try to roll-back smokefree measures. Where they force the issue to a ballot, the voters back the measures, and public support for them grows over time.

Check out the info at www.tobaccoscam.ucsf.edu/ and www.no-smoke.org .
Kent

Hagerstown, MD

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Jan 31, 2008
 
Mike wrote:
Can't wait to go out Friday night to a smoke free bar. I haven't gone out since Dec just waiting for ban to start. I know a lot of people going out this weekend just to make a point that this is a good thing.
I can hardly wait until tomorrow night to go smoke up some "Smoke-Free" Maryland bars.
Rob

Baltimore, MD

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Jan 31, 2008
 
I am SO looking forward to going out Friday, and not have to come home smelling like cigarette smoke.

For people arguing that they are taking your rights away. They don't let you empty your bladder or bowels on the floor of the bar. Is that a right that we should have in the name of freedom? If someone relieved themselves next to you in a bar, getting a bit on you, would you defend their freedom to do so? Why should folks be forced to walk all the way to the bathroom to do something so natural? How dare they ban barroom urination, and defecation!
just candid

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Jan 31, 2008
 
This is it, the day tens of thousands of Marylander's have been looking forward to. This is the day we can say to all who smoke, Out the door you smoking boor, don't drop an ash upon that floor. Out by the dump with Mr Rat and thirsty bat, you can suck on your weed till you dirty lungs bleed.
lung cookie

Edgewood, MD

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Jan 31, 2008
 
Sorry Rob - Property owner rights, the owners of the bars. Those are private businesses. That is all.
Rob wrote:
I am SO looking forward to going out Friday, and not have to come home smelling like cigarette smoke.
For people arguing that they are taking your rights away. They don't let you empty your bladder or bowels on the floor of the bar. Is that a right that we should have in the name of freedom? If someone relieved themselves next to you in a bar, getting a bit on you, would you defend their freedom to do so? Why should folks be forced to walk all the way to the bathroom to do something so natural? How dare they ban barroom urination, and defecation!

“I quit for me”

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Jan 31, 2008
 
Rob wrote:
I am SO looking forward to going out Friday, and not have to come home smelling like cigarette smoke.
For people arguing that they are taking your rights away. They don't let you empty your bladder or bowels on the floor of the bar. Is that a right that we should have in the name of freedom? If someone relieved themselves next to you in a bar, getting a bit on you, would you defend their freedom to do so? Why should folks be forced to walk all the way to the bathroom to do something so natural? How dare they ban barroom urination, and defecation!
Are you still in grade school?
Rob

Baltimore, MD

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Jan 31, 2008
 
lung cookie wrote:
Sorry Rob - Property owner rights, the owners of the bars. Those are private businesses. That is all.
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So why should private businesses be forced ban barroom urination defecation?
Rob

Baltimore, MD

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Jan 31, 2008
 
murvina wrote:
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Are you still in grade school?
So you're just going to try to side step my point by going for the personal insult?
Cleveland Steamer

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Jan 31, 2008
 
Kent wrote:
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I can hardly wait until tomorrow night to go smoke up some "Smoke-Free" Maryland bars.
Won't you be busy? I thought it was "Love a Sheep Night" in West Virginia on Friday? Oh, I get it now. You like to smoke after sex.
Kent

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Jan 31, 2008
 
just candid wrote:
This is it, the day tens of thousands of Marylander's have been looking forward to. This is the day we can say to all who smoke, Out the door you smoking boor, don't drop an ash upon that floor. Out by the dump with Mr Rat and thirsty bat, you can suck on your weed till you dirty lungs bleed.
There once was an old hag named just candid,
who screamed and hollered and ranted,
“There's smoke in the bar,
I can see it from afar,
'cause they won't let me in there no more.”
Hardy, hardy har!
Kent

Hagerstown, MD

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Jan 31, 2008
 
Rob wrote:
I am SO looking forward to going out Friday, and not have to come home smelling like cigarette smoke.
For people arguing that they are taking your rights away. They don't let you empty your bladder or bowels on the floor of the bar. Is that a right that we should have in the name of freedom? If someone relieved themselves next to you in a bar, getting a bit on you, would you defend their freedom to do so? Why should folks be forced to walk all the way to the bathroom to do something so natural? How dare they ban barroom urination, and defecation!
I'd be willing to bet that the stench of urine and feces on you will be a tad bit more noticable without the SHS to help mask it.
lung cookie

Edgewood, MD

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Jan 31, 2008
 
Nice - did you make that up, it's good.
just candid wrote:
This is it, the day tens of thousands of Marylander's have been looking forward to. This is the day we can say to all who smoke, Out the door you smoking boor, don't drop an ash upon that floor. Out by the dump with Mr Rat and thirsty bat, you can suck on your weed till you dirty lungs bleed.
Linda

United States

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#21
Jan 31, 2008
 
Rob wrote:
They don't let you empty your bladder or bowels on the floor of the bar.
Did you just fall off the turnip truck? That is illegal, smoking is not...darn, get a brain

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