Barack Obama, first president to come...

Barack Obama, first president to come of age in hip-hop era

There are 30 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Nov 7, 2008, titled Barack Obama, first president to come of age in hip-hop era. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

Barack Obama was in his last year of high school in 1979 when hip-hop broke out of the ghettos of New York on its way to becoming a national phenomenon.

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Nick

San Antonio, TX

#25 Nov 10, 2008
Well, now the Stalin Obama has a free hand to commit murder, millions more will die at the hands of abortionists. May God rip your cold, communist heart out Obama and feed it to the dogs...
TYPO

Chicago, IL

#26 Nov 10, 2008
Nick wrote:
Well, now the Stalin Obama has a free hand to commit murder, millions more will die at the hands of abortionists. May God rip your cold, communist heart out Obama and feed it to the dogs...
Gee, another 'Christian' spreading some love.
Adam

Athens, GA

#27 Nov 10, 2008
Interesting perspective.
George from outer space

Winnipeg, Canada

#28 Nov 10, 2008
Suburban Hillbilly Scum wrote:
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haha, a white person form Island Lake, wherever the f that is, is telling black people how they should think, feel, and act.
they must have a lot of experience knowing what it's like to grow up as a black person in america.
are there even any black people in Island Lake? what boondock, hillbilliy, white bred, suburban hell hole were you spit out of?
suburb people are funny, and pathetic. stay in the boonies, people
Stay in the boonies indeed. Perhaps you should live in the true black societies of Africa. Then you can really see "HOW BAD YOU HAVE I HERE".

Your black brothers sold you INTO salvery. And today your black brothers are STILL killing and selling THEIR black brothers into slavery.

And for this all you can do is blame the white man for your "problems".

Stay true to black and take advantage of your black brothers. And at least have the intellectual honesty to quit blaming everyone else for your behavior.

Tell someone how is to feel black. Try to tell someone how to feel RESPONSIBLE for their behavior, instead of playing the your not black race card.
Be Reasonable

Takoma Park, MD

#29 Nov 10, 2008
Racism isnt dead wrote:
Obama/Biden vs McCain/Palin, what if things were switched around?..... think about it.
Would the country's collective point of view be different?(10/8/08)
Ponder the following:
What if the Obamas had paraded five children across the stage, including a three month old infant and an unwed, pregnant teenage daughter?
What if Barack Obama had finished fifth from the bottom of his graduating class , like John McCain did, instead of being selected as President of the Harvard Law Review?
What if McCain had only married once , and Obama was a divorcee?
What if Obama was the candidate who screwed around on and then left his first wife because she'd been in a severe disfiguring car accident, and she no longer measured up to his standards?
What if Obama had met his second wife in a bar and had a months-long affair while he was still married ?
What if Michelle Obama was the wife who not only became addicted to pain killers but also acquired them illegally through her charitable organization and initially lied about it?
What if Obama had been a member of the Keating Five?
(The Keating Five were five United States Senators accused of corruption in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as part of the larger Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980's-90's which cost taxpayers over $3 billion in investments and bailout. McCain was one of those corrupt senators.)
What if McCain was a charismatic, eloquent speaker?(wha'?)
What if Obama couldn't read from a teleprompter?
What if Obama was the one who had military education/experience that included many discipline problems and a record of crashing four planes ?
What if Obama was the one who was known to display publicly, on many occasions, a serious anger management problem ?
What if Michelle Obama's family had made their money from beer distribution and been convicted of felonies for associating with organized crime figures and corruption ?
What if the Obamas had adopted a white child ?
You could easily add to this list. If these questions reflected reality, do you really believe the election numbers would be as close as they are?
This is what racism does . It covers up, rationalizes and minimizes positive qualities in one candidate and emphasizes negative qualities in another when there is a color difference.
Educational Background :
Barack Obama :
Columbia University - B.A., Political Science with a Specialization in International Relations.
Harvard Law School - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude, first black ever elected to be President of The Harvard Law Review
Joseph Biden:
University of Delaware - B.A. in History; and B.A. in Political Science.
Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)
vs.
John McCain :
United States Naval Academy - Class rank: 894 of 899
Sarah Palin:
Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester
North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study
University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester
University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in Journalism
Education isn't everything, but this is about the two highest offices in the land as well as our standing in the world. You make the call.
You make an excellent point.
Most minorities realize that in order for them to succeed, they need to be over the top qualified compared to their white male counterparts.
Yes, I'm including women in the term "minorities" as well.

Sadly, if the credentials were reversed, I don't think Senator Obama would be where he is today.

But still, it's a step in the right direction.
Be Reasonable

Takoma Park, MD

#30 Nov 10, 2008
TYPO wrote:
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Gee, another 'Christian' spreading some love.
Don't feed the trolls.

Since: Mar 07

Fredericksburg, VA

#31 Nov 10, 2008
This is partially the reason he dominated the youth vote. Hiphop culture is the fastest growing culture in the world. And even though some of the people making comments don't like or understand it, their highschool and college aged kids do.

So while Sen. McCain was getting a has-been like Hank Williams Jr. to support him by giving shows at local squaredance bars, President-elect Obama was getting supported by international superstars like Jay-Z, Ludacris, and Beyonce in soldout arenas worldwide.
Be Reasonable

Takoma Park, MD

#32 Nov 10, 2008
Derrick wrote:
For "racism," who cites the education of presidential candidates. Are you saying that because Harry Truman never attended college that he was a failure? Or that Lyndon Johnson, because he graduated from a small teachers college in Texas was less able than a Harvard grad? Or that FDR was a law school drop-out that he couldn't perform as president? You say that education isn't everything. Apparently not, so why the knock on McCain and Palin? Your guy won so why not celebrate it instead of carrying on the vicousness that marked so many of the Obama supporters.
Derrick, that's not what Racism isn't dead is saying at all.
Be Reasonable

Takoma Park, MD

#34 Nov 10, 2008
George from outer space wrote:
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Stay in the boonies indeed. Perhaps you should live in the true black societies of Africa. Then you can really see "HOW BAD YOU HAVE I HERE".
Your black brothers sold you INTO salvery. And today your black brothers are STILL killing and selling THEIR black brothers into slavery.
And for this all you can do is blame the white man for your "problems".
Stay true to black and take advantage of your black brothers. And at least have the intellectual honesty to quit blaming everyone else for your behavior.
Tell someone how is to feel black. Try to tell someone how to feel RESPONSIBLE for their behavior, instead of playing the your not black race card.
Nice post, George.

Your first argument: Go back to Africa if you don't like it here. And STFU if you choose to stay in the US.

Frankly, that's quite an un-American thing to say. America is about fighting for your beliefs. It's never been about taking the easy road, or turning tail when things got hard. It's about working hard to make a difference, sometimes not even in your own generation (eg MLK Jr.) or your own backyard (eg Gandhi). It's doing everything because you know in your heart, "My country can be better." Not resting on your laurels (eg most European countries), just collecting your paychecks by day and letting the cable tv wash over you by night.

Black people and minorities are just as AMERICAN as you are, George, so this is their home too. Telling a black person to "GO HOME" is racist and demeaning and simply WRONG.

Your second argument: Don't say "you're not black, you'll never understand". That's "playing the race card."

Perspective matters. Life experiences matter.

Have you ever walked around Chicago at night? Maybe seen a black man walking towards you, just walking, returning home from a hard day's work? Did you experience a sense of nervousness, shift your briefcase/purse away from him, maybe even cross the street to avoid him? That might be safety first, but it's also racism.

What if you were that black man, and you had a lifetime of people treating you like a criminal to fall back on? Wouldn't you believe it's naive and irresponsible for white folks to believe racism does not exist, or is gone now (as Bill and Ron said in the Tribune Berlusconi article forum (Carla Bruni denounces Italian PM Berlusconi for calling Obama a "suntanned messiah")- racism was made illegal a long time ago, so saying that a black person [Naomi Campbell] couldn't get service in South Carolina in the 1990s is BS).

What if restaurants refused to seat you (yes, in the 1990s and 2000s... I've had it happen to me in Idaho and New Mexico) because of the color of your skin?

To live through that, on a day to day basis, is rough. It has an impact on how you see the world.

Having lived through that, sometimes it is easy to see two interpretations for innocuous behaviour, and choose the more hostile (racist) one. Sometimes it is simply not easy to tell, and a person with more positive life experiences (which it seems you have had, George) would leap to a less hostile conclusion to explain such behaviour.

Responses in a rational, non-derogatory manner would be appreciated.
eseai

Milwaukee, WI

#35 Nov 10, 2008

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