Clinton, Obama In Dead Heat In Texas

Clinton, Obama In Dead Heat In Texas

There are 850 comments on the www.postchronicle.com story from Feb 18, 2008, titled Clinton, Obama In Dead Heat In Texas. In it, www.postchronicle.com reports that:

The Texas duel for the Democratic presidential nod between Sens. Hillary Clinton of New York and Barack Obama of Illinois is a draw, a poll indicated Monday.

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William Bud Bird

AOL

#436 Feb 22, 2008
Hillary in running on her name. That is how she became a Senator Sorry lady, your name is not that great.

“Gone Baby Gone”

Since: Apr 07

Location hidden

#437 Feb 22, 2008
Oh sorry News Chick, I popped in, read out of context and thought you were posting about me *sheepish look*

“Dragon Slayer”

Since: Jul 07

Antonito Colorado

#438 Feb 22, 2008
William of Chicago wrote:
Barak Obama belongs to a Far-Left Black-Supremacist Church with close ties to the Nation of Islam and Louis Farrakhan.
Don't feel bad if you didn't know about this - even most people in Chicago don't know about it - yet.
That puts him several notches higher than GW doesn't it?
saviorself

San Diego, CA

#439 Feb 22, 2008
JohnnyQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh yes...I'm part of the "Blame America First" crowd that everyone wanted to burn at the stake right after 9/11. I'm glad you're a kindred spirit. I, too am very happy that people have begun to crawl out of hiding and a) say what they initially felt about 9/11, or b) admit that our course of action with regard to 9/11 was, ummm...suboptimal.
I remember clearly thinking, before the towers even fell: "This will end stupidly". I know it sounds cold. But I'd seen enough to KNOW that people could not possibly be rational about it, and that those with agendas would soon be out in force to curry favor and gain support for <fill in the blank>. I issued a personal gag order for myself. I only discussed it with family.
Then discuss it with me, please. I rarely debate 9/11, passions run far too strong amongst the (to use your terminology) "blame America first" crowd, but I often wonder to myself "who exactly engineered the first WTC attack, the SECOND Wtc attack, the embassy bombing in Tanzania, the embassy bombing in Kenya, the attack on the USS Cole, the marine barracks in Beirut, the Khobar towers in Saudia Arabia, the Lockerbie flight over Scotland....etc...etc...etc... " So many MORE attacks as well would I put in the world-wide "Neo-con oil-stealing Fascist PNAC conspiracy." For you 9/11 was the beginning of a process that would "end in stupidity." For me, 9/11 was the end of a multi-decade long slumber that ended in exactly what we were promised by those that have chanted "Death to America" and "U.S. is the Great Satan" for over 60 years. The difference for me is, you want us to go back to sleep. Convince me WHY we should, or at least convince me how every OTHER attack was ALSO part of this conspiracy.

“Yes. We. Can.”

Since: Dec 07

Haddam

#441 Feb 22, 2008
Aging Hippy wrote:
<quoted text>Actually, I don't mean to contradict you but I'm not afraid either. I have been to hell and back and so I don't scare easily. It tends to make me look like a male online sometimes to others. I am not concerned about Muslims. Terrorists, a little. Crazy or criminal US born and bred violence, far more so. I tend to be statistical and reality-based proportioned about things. If people only knew how much more unsafe they are from their fellow Americans, we'd be doing more about it.
haha I figured you'd mis-read it. No prob :)
And I'd never take you as someone to scare easily.
Anyway... I agree
Andrea Hetheru

San Diego, CA

#443 Feb 22, 2008
William of Chicago wrote:
Barak Obama belongs to a Far-Left Black-Supremacist Church with close ties to the Nation of Islam and Louis Farrakhan.
Don't feel bad if you didn't know about this - even most people in Chicago don't know about it - yet.
William of Chicago, I am seeking information.

1. What is "black supremacy?"

2. What is "far left?"

3. What is "near left?"

4. What is the "center?". Is it good to be at the center? If so, why? If not, why not?

5. What is on the right side of center?

6. What is on top of center?

7. What is on the bottom of center?

“Yes. We. Can.”

Since: Dec 07

Haddam

#444 Feb 22, 2008
saviorself wrote:
<quoted text>
Then discuss it with me, please. I rarely debate 9/11, passions run far too strong amongst the (to use your terminology) "blame America first" crowd, but I often wonder to myself "who exactly engineered the first WTC attack, the SECOND Wtc attack, the embassy bombing in Tanzania, the embassy bombing in Kenya, the attack on the USS Cole, the marine barracks in Beirut, the Khobar towers in Saudia Arabia, the Lockerbie flight over Scotland....etc...etc...etc... " So many MORE attacks as well would I put in the world-wide "Neo-con oil-stealing Fascist PNAC conspiracy." For you 9/11 was the beginning of a process that would "end in stupidity." For me, 9/11 was the end of a multi-decade long slumber that ended in exactly what we were promised by those that have chanted "Death to America" and "U.S. is the Great Satan" for over 60 years. The difference for me is, you want us to go back to sleep. Convince me WHY we should, or at least convince me how every OTHER attack was ALSO part of this conspiracy.
With all due respect...
Clearly you know your history. But I think the debate on 9/11 has nothing to do with this election. That's part of the problem, see?
Republicans use 9/11 (as has corporate America) to capitalize on a tragedy that should have been (AND COULD HAVE BEEN) nipped in the bud far before we lost thousands of soldiers and thousands of innocent civilians overseas.
The argument is not to "go back to sleep" and, thus, pretend it never happened.
God, I cried that day. I was so angry... so hurt.
I wanted Al Queda to be found and punished for what they did. I even had the perversely satisfying visions of putting Bin Ladin - un armed - on a New York street and letting him go.
But Iraq has very little to do with Al Queda as many politicians (war-supportive ones) would have America believe.
It's happened in such a way that people naturally associate Iraq War with 9/11 and that simply is not true.
At least, not as true as the real reasons we're over there.

“Yes. We. Can.”

Since: Dec 07

Haddam

#445 Feb 22, 2008
Classy Chassis wrote:
Well, in the scheme of things, NEITHER the muslim commie or the lesbian commie will really WIN Texas. There very few dems here other than the ILLEGALS. We warehouse most of the dems in Austin. Of course there are all those dead people. Nonetheless, one or the other may win the leftie nomination but neither will win Texas.
He's not muslim.
Whether she's lesbian or not I could care less. To each his own, as long as I don't have to see it and it's not hurting anyone.
But even if he were, and even if she were, they both exhibit more tact than to go and call you an ignorant bigot talking out of the side of your neck.
SO I suppose we should all be grateful that you're not running for office.
Although McCain ain't a far cry..........

“Yes. We. Can.”

Since: Dec 07

Haddam

#446 Feb 22, 2008
Andrea Hetheru wrote:
<quoted text>
William of Chicago, I am seeking information.
1. What is "black supremacy?"
2. What is "far left?"
3. What is "near left?"
4. What is the "center?". Is it good to be at the center? If so, why? If not, why not?
5. What is on the right side of center?
6. What is on top of center?
7. What is on the bottom of center?
lol
I like this post.
So perfect.
Where does ANY of it fit, when you're talking common sense and common decency.(that's rhetorical)

“Dragon Slayer”

Since: Jul 07

Antonito Colorado

#447 Feb 22, 2008
Sue wrote:
<quoted text>
Your talking about the ILLEGAL MEXICANS? Send them back to their own country and come in the right way......to many people waiting to come into America to become citizens the right way. Why should Mexicans get citizenship? Go home back home and take your anchor babies with you!
X 12,000,000? Where will they go? I guess that would be the street. That's a lot of refugees. Why did you all wait so long to have a violent ignorant hateful stupid reaction like this? It would be very funny if it wasn't such disgusting outrage of jerk asses.

Then what do we do after we build these big walls around ourselves? Americans seem to hate each other almost as much as the Mexicans.

Why are you all such simple minded idiots? This all a big joke of stupid ignorance.

Tear down barriers and walls. Build an International highway extending from the 'bush' of Alaska to Tierra del Fuego at the southern tip of Argentina and open this entire continent up for business and economic prosperity.

I'm sick of pinheaded narrow minded racial prejudice hatred and war mongering attitudes. What a big slimey bowl of worms. Evil and disgusting. All these roads lead to nowhere.
saviorself

San Diego, CA

#449 Feb 22, 2008
News Chick wrote:
<quoted text>
With all due respect...
Clearly you know your history. But I think the debate on 9/11 has nothing to do with this election. That's part of the problem, see?
Republicans use 9/11 (as has corporate America) to capitalize on a tragedy that should have been (AND COULD HAVE BEEN) nipped in the bud far before we lost thousands of soldiers and thousands of innocent civilians overseas.
The argument is not to "go back to sleep" and, thus, pretend it never happened.
God, I cried that day. I was so angry... so hurt.
I wanted Al Queda to be found and punished for what they did. I even had the perversely satisfying visions of putting Bin Ladin - un armed - on a New York street and letting him go.
But Iraq has very little to do with Al Queda as many politicians (war-supportive ones) would have America believe.
It's happened in such a way that people naturally associate Iraq War with 9/11 and that simply is not true.
At least, not as true as the real reasons we're over there.
again, you keep bringing up Iraq and 9/11 and linking the two. You either give "the Neocons" way too much credit, or the average citizen way too little. I never said Iraq had anything whatsoever to do with 9/11, neither did George Bush for that matter, neither did Al-Queda, neither did Saddam Hussein. But the plain and simple fact of the matter is, we have needed a large military presence in the middle east for decades. DECADES. I can list the attacks again, in chronological order if you like, and in the entire littany not mention 9/11 once. It just so happens that where our presence is now is Iraq, and yes, it does just happen to be as well that factors OTHER than "spreading democracy and liberating the iraqis people" are at play. Congratulations, you figured out that a politician will occassionally lie. 9/11 was not a "tragedy." NEITHER have the varios attacks over the last 60 years against American interests been "tragedies." They have been acts of war. War has many front, and occassionally you lose on some, but if you STOP fighting then you lose alltogether. On the scale of how LONG we have been at war, TRULY been at war, and on the scale of who has been prosecuting the War more successfully (us or them), we WIN thus far. I know some people don't like the notion, so they say ANYTHING they can to convince themselves or others that things are peaceful and that we are not and HAVE NOT BEEN at war.... "Bush lied people died", "9/11 was a massive government conspiracy", "it was all planned by PNAC" the list goes on and on. Or my absolute favorite... "they just don't like us because of (environmentalism/corporate greed/we funded the Taliban/fill in the blank)" I'm sorry. We are hated in the world. HATED. We are, we have been, we may very well ALWAYS be hated, and frankly I do not CARE if we are hated. The United States of America has the RIGHT TO EXIST and EXIST without being attacked. We have been attacked for DECADES and you don't want to admit it. What is WRONG with you people? Or do you just sympathize? At least be honest.

“Yes. We. Can.”

Since: Dec 07

Haddam

#451 Feb 22, 2008
Classy Chassis wrote:
<quoted text>
poor little liberal
You say that as if it's a dirty word.

Au Contraire Mon Cher

I don't fit in any of your preconceived categories.

I'm a 'Cristina'

Period.

“Yes. We. Can.”

Since: Dec 07

Haddam

#452 Feb 22, 2008
saviorself wrote:
<quoted text>
again, you keep bringing up Iraq and 9/11 and linking the two. You either give "the Neocons" way too much credit, or the average citizen way too little. I never said Iraq had anything whatsoever to do with 9/11, neither did George Bush for that matter, neither did Al-Queda, neither did Saddam Hussein. But the plain and simple fact of the matter is, we have needed a large military presence in the middle east for decades. DECADES. I can list the attacks again, in chronological order if you like, and in the entire littany not mention 9/11 once. It just so happens that where our presence is now is Iraq, and yes, it does just happen to be as well that factors OTHER than "spreading democracy and liberating the iraqis people" are at play. Congratulations, you figured out that a politician will occassionally lie. 9/11 was not a "tragedy." NEITHER have the varios attacks over the last 60 years against American interests been "tragedies." They have been acts of war. War has many front, and occassionally you lose on some, but if you STOP fighting then you lose alltogether. On the scale of how LONG we have been at war, TRULY been at war, and on the scale of who has been prosecuting the War more successfully (us or them), we WIN thus far. I know some people don't like the notion, so they say ANYTHING they can to convince themselves or others that things are peaceful and that we are not and HAVE NOT BEEN at war.... "Bush lied people died", "9/11 was a massive government conspiracy", "it was all planned by PNAC" the list goes on and on. Or my absolute favorite... "they just don't like us because of (environmentalism/corporate greed/we funded the Taliban/fill in the blank)" I'm sorry. We are hated in the world. HATED. We are, we have been, we may very well ALWAYS be hated, and frankly I do not CARE if we are hated. The United States of America has the RIGHT TO EXIST and EXIST without being attacked. We have been attacked for DECADES and you don't want to admit it. What is WRONG with you people? Or do you just sympathize? At least be honest.
Yeah because - God knows - our leaders have always known (for Decades!) what is best for the entire world because we are the end-all, do-all big brother of the world.

Just look at how much international respect we have :)

“Yes. We. Can.”

Since: Dec 07

Haddam

#453 Feb 22, 2008
Classy Chassis wrote:
<quoted text>
Right, so, name ONE spanish speaking country where it is not full of disease ridden ignorant lazy people living under a corrupt government. Name one positive thing that has ever come from a spanish speaking country? They are here ILLEGALLY sucking the blood from us. Now liberals love this notion because they are communists and they think a few who desire to work should support all those who are too lazy to do so. The great redistribution of wealth theory that our home grown commies (dems) call welfare. Oh, they passed it off as a safety net and turned it into a hammock. So, why would we want our country to look like mexico? And have you EVER heard of a country taxing itself into prosperity? An ddi you feel good commies ever wonder what happens when there are so many more lazy people than workers? It all crumbles just like happened to the USSR and the eastern block. But OUR commies are so arrogant, they think they can somehow do the SAME thing but achieve different results. RIGHT..
Do you know what classy means?
Rotton Cotton

United States

#454 Feb 22, 2008
Whazup? Who would you rather have controlling the White House,Special Interest Groups or opra,jessy jaxon and al sharpton ?

“I'm just one vote.”

Since: Sep 07

Washington, D.C.

#455 Feb 22, 2008
There is only one true Texan that really matters. Who will Kinky Friedman vote for.'nuff said!
saviorself

San Diego, CA

#456 Feb 22, 2008
News Chick wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah because - God knows - our leaders have always known (for Decades!) what is best for the entire world because we are the end-all, do-all big brother of the world.
Just look at how much international respect we have :)
again, we NEVER had it. I don't know how on earth you have deluded yourself into thinking that the rest of the world EVER liked us or respected us, but I assure you that has NEVER been the case. Perhaps your too young to have ever seen how we have been portrayed in the world's media as the "ugly American" or the "society with no culture" or the "Great Satan" but I am not. No one has EVER liked us pr respected us and they never, ever will. It is not the NATURE of a people to like or respect OTHER people's anyway, ask the Jews, ask the Chinese, ask the Greeks, ask the Mayan's. But we have been FEARED historically, which is what ensures your people's survival. You have fallen under the wonderful spell of a peaceful world and forgotten that in all of human history the longest stretch of time that has been peaceful was 44 days. The world is NOT a peaceful place but it is a peaceful world for the nation that is strong. many today think that we lost a chunk of our peace on Sept. 11, 2001 but we did NOT, we lost our peace decades ago when an entire world-wide militant dogma began to attack the very foundations of our existence... freedom and prosperity. we BEGAN the long process of re-claiming our peace and prosperity ON sept. 11, 2001. We awoke from our slumber. Again, I re-iterate.... when we were attacked in Lebanon, we did nothing. When we were attacked in Saudia Arabia... we did nothing. When we were attacked in Tanzania, we did NOTHING. When we were attacked in Kenya, we did nothing. When we were attacked at the World Trade Center, we did nothing. When we were attacked at the World Trade Center again, we did nothing. When we were attacked in Yemen, we did nothing. Through ALL of these multiple attacks, while we were doing nothing, those in the world that had feared us were losing their fear and PROMISING with every single "We will Strike the Great Satan rally" that they would attack us AGAIN. And they did and they will if we go back to sleep, if we STOP hitting back harder, if we decide that we need to give them what they want. I understand the desire for a peaceful existence. I pray for it. And, in some circumstances, such as the way that was shown by Ghandi or Martin Luther King Jr., you can actually negotiate peace and unity and decency, as LONG as you are not dealing with someone who will answer your demands with decency. We are NOT dealing with such a threat now. Of course, I don't really expect you to understand. Your a true believer. I guess your thinking the audacity of our hope and the fundamental changes we make that show the world we are good people is going to change the very nature of the world. It may, you never know. Worked for Jesus, I guess. Only he never got to live to see it, and for quite a loooong time, people were fed to lions and crucified before that spark of hope became a flame that spread across the globe. If your willing to make that sort of sacrfice, well, I guess you are a true believer after all. I just don't think it's fair to do it with other American's children's lives.
Nancy

Elmwood Park, IL

#457 Feb 22, 2008
I just saw McCain say on the news that he hopes Castro meets Carl Marx very soon. He looks deranged. I think all that he endured as a POW has affected him and that he is not fit to be President, IMO.
Truth

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#458 Feb 22, 2008
Obama's Ties to Terrorists Come Under Scrutiny

URL: http://www.nysun.com/article/71421
WASHINGTON Senator Obama's ties to a former leader of the violent left-wing activist group the Weather Underground are drawing new scrutiny as he battles Senator Clinton for the Democratic presidential nomination.
As an Illinois state senator in 2001, Mr. Obama accepted a $200 contribution from William Ayers, a founding member of the group that bombed the U.S. Capitol and the Pentagon during the 1970s.
Mr. Ayers wrote a memoir, "Fugitive Days," published in 2001, and on the day of the September 11 terrorist attacks, he was quoted by the New York Times as saying: "I don't regret setting bombs. I feel we didn't do enough."
He and Mr. Obama served together on the nine-member board of the Woods Fund, a Chicago nonprofit, for three years beginning in 1999, and they have also appeared jointly on two academic panels, one in 1997 and another in 2001. Mr. Ayers, who was never convicted in the Weather Underground bombings, is now a professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago.
The Ayers link, reported on Friday by Bloomberg News, has surfaced in recent days as Mr. Obama tries to add to his lead in the Democratic primary fight. He faces Mrs. Clinton today in a primary in Wisconsin and caucuses in Hawaii, after which they will prepare for critical elections in delegate-rich Ohio and Texas on March 4.
Reached at his office in Chicago yesterday, Mr. Ayers declined to comment on his relationship with Mr. Obama.
In a statement last night, a spokesman for the Obama campaign, William Burton, acknowledged the $200 contribution from Mr. Ayers, who he noted lived in Mr. Obama's state Senate district and was once an aide to Chicago Mayor Richard Daley. "Senator Obama strongly condemns the violent actions of the Weathermen group, as he does all acts of violence," Mr. Burton said. "But he was an eight-year-old child when Ayers and the Weathermen were active, and any attempt to connect Obama with events of almost 40 years ago is ridiculous."
The Clinton campaign declined to comment on the Ayers tie, but the former first lady has argued that she is a stronger general election candidate because she has been "vetted" during her many years in the public eye and has successfully defeated sustained attacks from Republicans.
"Those are pretty slender ties to a controversial figure," the dean of Baruch College's School of Public Affairs, David Birdsell, said of Mr. Obama's links to Mr. Ayers. But it he said that may not matter if Mr. Obama is the nominee in a general election. "Will the GOP pick that up in the campaign? Sure," he said.
The campaign of the likely Republican nominee, Senator McCain, declined to comment.
A spokesman for the Republican National Committee, Alex Conant, said that Mr. Obama would "have to answer questions about his Illinois record" if he wants to be commander-in-chief.
Republicans may not go after Mr. Obama directly on the Ayers issue, one party strategist said, but they are likely to portray the link as one in a series of Chicago ties that raise questions about his past. The Illinois senator has been dogged by his friendship with a Chicago developer, Antoin Rezko.
Andrez Lopez

El Paso, TX

#459 Feb 22, 2008
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