Gaza ceasefire imminent, says Egypt's...

Gaza ceasefire imminent, says Egypt's President Mohamed Morsi

There are 54 comments on the The Guardian story from Nov 20, 2012, titled Gaza ceasefire imminent, says Egypt's President Mohamed Morsi. In it, The Guardian reports that:

Truce reportedly near at hand with possible end to hostilities not far off, as Cairo talks continue between Israel and Hamas Palestinians inspect the damage after an Israeli air strike on the Islamic National Bank building, in Gaza City.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Guardian.

abc

United States

#22 Nov 20, 2012
Hopes were briefly raised then dashed Tuesday for an imminent calm between Israel and Hamas, as diplomats fervently sought a way to stop the deadly violence.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/20/world/meast/gaz...
3OHA

San Jose, CA

#23 Nov 20, 2012
PooPoo Platter wrote:
Job well done, President Obama & Secretary Clinton.
F'n idiot. Israel finds a way to get Hamas to start thinking about how many lives they'll lose, the fall of their "democratically elected" government, etc. Then Clinton hops on a plane afterward and wants to grandstand as having some impact. If I was Israel, I'd maybe let her land, but then refuse to meet with her the same way Obama treated Israel recently. Afterall, it was Obama, who criminally violated our alliance with Israel by leaking Israel's security plans in Azerbaijan to Iran.

What a bunch of posers Leftists are!
3OHA

San Jose, CA

#24 Nov 20, 2012
Anybody want to place odds on whether Hillary will go to Gaza and chum it up with those humane guys dragging bodies through streets? At least she'd have some Israeli fruit to eat.

Since: Oct 08

Stone Mountain, GA

#25 Nov 20, 2012
so who are you libs pulling for, the jews or the arabs?

Since: Jul 07

Newport News, VA

#26 Nov 20, 2012
Kahoki wrote:
I would like to put some things into perspective for these Israel worshipers out there.
Since many people cannot understand why the bottle rockets are being launched from Gaza into Israel.
let's take a look at the map. This here should explain it all. A picture says 1000 words.
http://palestinianfieldnegro.files.wordpress....
FYI: land mass of arab countries surrounding israel is 650 times that of israel. just sayin...

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#27 Nov 20, 2012
inbred Genius wrote:
so who are you libs pulling for, the jews or the arabs?
First tell us whom you caucasian, two-eyed hominid righties are pulling for. I guess you all think alike too.
Ninthman

“Obama Shames the USA”

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#29 Nov 20, 2012
Muslims suck. They shoot 14 year old girls in the head for wanting an education. And Obama protected the worst of them in Benghazi, He covered for them. Ain't that something? Blow them all to hell. And do it quickly.
Mike

Long Island City, NY

#30 Nov 20, 2012
lol. Israel doesn't want peace. They are just sending a message. What's the message? They are showing everyone that there is NOTHING anyone can do about the massacre they are committing.
rider

Marquette, MI

#31 Nov 20, 2012
Shot by rightwing extreamists who think the same as right-wingers in America! Malālah Yūsafzay, born 12 July 1997)[2][4] is a school student and education activist from the town of Mingora in the Swat District of Pakistan's Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province. She is known for her education and women's rights activism in the Swat Valley, where the Taliban had at times banned girls from attending school.[ Her BBC blogging identity was being revealed in articles as early as December 2009.[13][40] She also began appearing on television to publicly advocate for female education.[5] But Yousafzai's recognition seems to have been taking off not only because of her own actions, but also because of her father, who had become known as one of the few people to stand up against the Taliban.“Those were the most terrible days – the darkest in our history,” her father said.“We spared no efforts to speak up against terrorism and that struggle brought us into the limelight". As for Yousafzai, her father says she “got influenced by what was going on and gradually she joined me in our struggle against extremism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malala_Yousafzai

“"I'm A Great American!"”

Since: Sep 08

Obama Nation! USA! USA!

#32 Nov 20, 2012
3OHA wrote:
<quoted text>
F'n idiot. Israel finds a way to get Hamas to start thinking about how many lives they'll lose, the fall of their "democratically elected" government, etc. Then Clinton hops on a plane afterward and wants to grandstand as having some impact. If I was Israel, I'd maybe let her land, but then refuse to meet with her the same way Obama treated Israel recently. Afterall, it was Obama, who criminally violated our alliance with Israel by leaking Israel's security plans in Azerbaijan to Iran.
What a bunch of posers Leftists are!
News to you: you AREN'T Israel (or an Israeli official). Israel is lucky you are so impotent; if you were calling the shots, disrespecting the President and Secretary of State, aid and arms to Israel would be the next cut in government spending.

No, Israel and their leaders know their place. The USA is their gravy train, and they know who butters their bread...
3OHA

San Jose, CA

#35 Nov 20, 2012
PooPoo Platter wrote:
<quoted text>
News to you: you AREN'T Israel (or an Israeli official). Israel is lucky you are so impotent; if you were calling the shots, disrespecting the President and Secretary of State, aid and arms to Israel would be the next cut in government spending.
No, Israel and their leaders know their place. The USA is their gravy train, and they know who butters their bread...
F'n idiot. Israel is capable of defending herself even if Obama tells Iran about Israel's defense capabilities and plans. The absolute sickness of Clinton going to Ramallah to hobnob with idiots like you, who also like the idea of nine year olds performing sexually, is an affront to human decency. These idiots beat their young boys over their heads with swords until they're bleeding profusely and you would have America address them as equals, or give them Peace Prizes like some idiots gave one to you know who.

Since: Nov 12

Belton, MO

#36 Nov 20, 2012
Kahoki wrote:
I would like to put some things into perspective for these Israel worshipers out there.
Since many people cannot understand why the bottle rockets are being launched from Gaza into Israel.
let's take a look at the map. This here should explain it all. A picture says 1000 words.
http://palestinianfieldnegro.files.wordpress....
Problem is sir... the time before 1948... way before... The area that is now Israel has always belonged to the jews in ancient times... up until the time they were taken into captivity and spread throughout the nations. The Bible,(I know laugh) but the Bible predicted a great shaking of the Nations and that God himself would draw his chosen people back to their homeland. Jerusalem has always belonged to the Jews. This is their promised land. You can gripe but you can't argue history or the prophecies that have been fulfilled to the letter.

Since: Nov 12

Belton, MO

#37 Nov 20, 2012
Kahoki wrote:
I would like to put some things into perspective for these Israel worshipers out there.
Since many people cannot understand why the bottle rockets are being launched from Gaza into Israel.
let's take a look at the map. This here should explain it all. A picture says 1000 words.
http://palestinianfieldnegro.files.wordpress....
Take a look at this map... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons... The Green is Ancient Israel and Judah... confirming what I said in my previous reply to you... They were just taking back what was rightfully theirs in the beginning...
Ninthman

“Obama Shames the USA”

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#38 Nov 21, 2012
Biden calls the president "Home Boy" LOL Is Biden the stupidest man on earth or WHAT?? LOL

“Open your eyes”

Since: Sep 09

Central Florida

#39 Nov 21, 2012
Dawniequel wrote:
<quoted text>Problem is sir... the time before 1948... way before... The area that is now Israel has always belonged to the jews in ancient times... up until the time they were taken into captivity and spread throughout the nations. The Bible,(I know laugh) but the Bible predicted a great shaking of the Nations and that God himself would draw his chosen people back to their homeland. Jerusalem has always belonged to the Jews. This is their promised land. You can gripe but you can't argue history or the prophecies that have been fulfilled to the letter.
Just throwing this out there. You stated that the land belongs to the jewish people. Well..........would Christians not argue that from the crusades? How about Muslims where their temple on Temple Mount is.

Who are "you" to say who land belongs too. Just because it is in a book written by men over 2000 years ago? A book that has been translated and assuming the translations are actually accurate. It is still a book written by men.

Since: Oct 08

Atlanta, GA

#40 Nov 21, 2012
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>First tell us whom you caucasian, two-eyed hominid righties are pulling for. I guess you all think alike too.
I'm pulling for the jews...in my experience with them, I've found that jews tend to be educated, family oriented, entreprenauers who either own their biz or are professionals, such as lawyers, doctors, CPA's etc. They can be difficult too, but they rarely fly airplanes into buildings or send their children on suicide missions.
just saying

Saint Louis, MO

#41 Nov 21, 2012
OBAMA SELLS M-1A1 ABRAM TRAKS TO MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD
August 24, 2012

Barack Hussein Obama informed the US Congress that he intended to sell 125 M-1A1 Abrams Tanks to the Egyptian Military. Why would any sane and rational person sell tanks (or any weapon) to a nation bent on not only destroying its Israeli neighbor, but who would turn the same weapons on the US to destroy it? We obviously live in a "progressive" and politically correct world gone mad.

On Friday, the Defense Security Cooperation Agency notified Congress of a possible sale of 125 M1A1 Abrams tank to Egypt – the first large arms deal since Hosni Mubarak was ousted from power in February – including associated weapons, equipment, parts, training and logistical support at an estimated cost of just over $1.3 billion.

If approved, the deal would increase the number of Abrams tanks in Egypt from around 1,000 to 1,130.

According to the notification to Congress, Egypt would receive 125 tanks, parts of which would be produced in Egypt, as well as M256 Armament Systems, M2 .50 caliber machine guns, 7.62mm machine guns, spare parts, maintenance, support equipment, personnel training and other related elements of logistics and program support.

The Pentagon told Congress – which has 30 days to object to the deal – that the sale of the tanks would “contribute to the foreign policy and national security of the United States by helping to improve the security of a friendly country that has been and continues to be an important force for political stability and economic progress in the Middle East.”

The sale would “provide Egypt with a modern tank fleet, enhancing its capability to meet current and future threats,” the Pentagon further stated.

News of the deal raised eyebrows in Israel, which has carefully watched arms sales to Egypt ever since Cairo began to receive annual military aid of some $1.3b. from the United States following the peace treaty the two neighbors signed in 1979.

Israel has in the past lobbied Congress against specific arms deals to Egypt. In the past few years, Egypt has purchased 24 F-16 fighter jets, Hellfire missiles, Harpoon antiship missiles, TOW anti-tank missiles, Chinook transport helicopters and Apache attack helicopters.

Israel is concerned that Egypt might take a radical shift in elections expected to be held in the fall and might once again turn into an enemy state, depending on the identity of the new president and the number of seats the Muslim Brotherhood wins in parliament.

The signs point to Egypt attacking Israel within the next 6 months (sooner if they can). The addition of more M-1A1 Abrams tanks will only increase the livelihood of this happening.
just saying

Saint Louis, MO

#42 Nov 21, 2012
HUSSEIN OBAMA FUNDS TERRORISTS
May 1, 2012
part 1

On April 23rd, Obama stopped by the Holocaust Memorial Museum where he mouthed the words,“Never Again” and two days later he issued a memorandum waiving restrictions on funding to the terrorists of the Palestinian Authority, which routinely calls for the murder of Jews, and for its president who has described the Holocaust as a “fantastic lie.”

It took Obama a day to disavow his commitment to a united Jerusalem. It took him a little longer to disavow his commitment to “Never Again.”

In his memorandum, Obama certified the 192 million dollar aid package as “important to the national security interests of the United States” and White House spokesman Tommy Vietor claimed that it would ensure “the continued viability of the moderate PA government.” That same moderate government which has tried to form a pact with Hamas and whose high ranking officials have repeatedly engaged in terrorism.


The Palestinian Accountability Act, which Obama waived with a flourish of the pen, was one in a series of attempts to stem the flow of taxpayer money to the terrorist corruptocracy in Ramallah. The Act mandated that no funds may be made available to the Palestinian Authority until it ends its terrorist activities and an independent audit is conducted of its finances. Rather than complying with the bill, Obama dismissed it by resorting to the transparently fraudulent claim of national security.

So where is that money really going?

According to the Palestinian Authority, its budget crisis was caused by the funding that it provides to Hamas run Gaza at a rate of 120 million dollars a month. If we take these figures as actual, then its 1.3 billion dollar budget deficit is almost entirely composed of Gaza expenditures.

Another 60 million dollars a year is paid out to convicted terrorists in Israeli prisons. Obama’s generous waiver would cover a month’s worth of expenses for Hamas run Gaza and a year’s worth of salaries for the imprisoned murderers and bombers. Including members of Hamas. Then there are the infrastructure projects, like homes for released terrorists built by the Palestinian Investment Fund.

Nearly 1.8 billion dollars of the PA budget for 2012 consists of government salaries. With above 20 percent unemployment, those in the West Bank and Gaza who don’t work in Israel, work directly or indirectly for the Palestinian Authority or the UNRWA, both funded by foreign donors, including the United States. The World Bank found that the Palestinian Authority’s government employment rates are more than twice the average for the region with around 150,000 employees. About 65,000 of those are in Hamas run Gaza.

For all the talk about the needs of the Palestinian people, the Authority is in the guns, not butter business. Security spending is its single largest sector expenditure. Within the governance sector, which American aid heavily focuses on, 43 percent of funds goes to security. Its projections for the next three years call for 234 million dollars in security spending.

The Palestinian Authority’s National Development Plan projected a 30 percent increase in security spending for 2012. While it cut the number of health care workers, it did manage to add another 1,122 security employees in the West Bank and 203 in Gaza. These employees are for the most part members of allied militias who are involved in terrorist operations
just saying

Saint Louis, MO

#43 Nov 21, 2012
HUSSEIN OBAMA FUNDS TERRORISTS
May 1, 2012
part 2

Strip away all the niceties and this is the core of the Palestinian Authority, a collection of militias funded by the United States and the European Union. Social services for supporters of the militias, construction contracts for friends of the militias and finally incitement and hate in its media apparatus. The only practical difference between the Palestinian Authority and Hamas is that the former is directly funded by the United States and the latter is only indirectly funded.

Obama’s 192 million dollar payout is only the beginning. 88.6 million dollars had already been released in March and we haven’t seen the last of the waivers either. This isn’t the first time that Obama has used a national security waiver to bypass certification procedures in order to extract American taxpayer money for the Palestinian Authority. Since 2009 waivers have been used every year to sideline Congress and direct money without accountability to the Palestinian Authority.

The 192 million is just a piece of a larger puzzle. The United States is the single largest donor to the UNRWA, a United Nations agency concerned with only one group, Palestinian Arabs. And under Obama the amount of money that the United States plows into the UNRWA has increased dramatically. In 2007 the United States contributed 154 million dollars to the UNRWA. By 2009 the contribution had shot up to 268 million dollars. This year it’s projected to be around 232 million, but will likely be higher than that.



While Obama rushed to deliver the money to the Palestinian Authority, Arab League donors are as usual slow to pay up their own pledges. When American diplomats stop by Riyadh or Cairo, they immediately receive the usual formal lectures on how compellingly vital the Palestinian cause is to the Arab World, but it’s not compelling enough to get them to provide the aid that they promised. Hardly a year goes by when the Palestinian Authority doesn’t whine that its “Arab brothers” aren’t fulfilling their pledges.

But why should they? Let the infidels cover the salaries of the terrorist militias who keep the unelected leaders of the Authority in power with millions diverted into their international bank accounts. They aren’t interested in the people living in Gaza and the West Bank except as a means of destroying Israel. Under Bush, Arab donations picked up as American donations dropped off, but under Obama, they dropped off again, secure in the knowledge that the White House will generously see to the needs of the Authority and its murderous terror state.

At the Holocaust Museum, Obama said,“We must tell our children about how this evil was allowed to happen — because so many people succumbed to their darkest instincts, and because so many others stood silent.”

But Palestinian Authority television had another message for the children.“Our children are our glory and honor, they were created to be fertilizer for the land of Palestine, and for our pure land to be saturated with their blood.”

That is what Obama’s 192 million dollars is truly funding, the perpetuation of a culture of hate, a celebration of death and the pursuit of genocide.

“Open your eyes”

Since: Sep 09

Central Florida

#44 Nov 21, 2012
inbred Genius wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm pulling for the jews...in my experience with them, I've found that jews tend to be educated, family oriented, entreprenauers who either own their biz or are professionals, such as lawyers, doctors, CPA's etc. They can be difficult too, but they rarely fly airplanes into buildings or send their children on suicide missions.
I think we should all be pulling for the people. The individual people on both sides. Not the psycopaths that run their governments.

Like here, people look to psycopaths to figure out the problems that the same psycopaths created.

Personally, I am rooting for the Palestinian and Israeli people. Not their psycopathic governments.

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