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Protestant militants target Northern Ireland party

There are 240 comments on the SFGate story from Dec 6, 2012, titled Protestant militants target Northern Ireland party. In it, SFGate reports that:

Police Service of Northern Ireland officers move forward to protect Belfast City Hall as a Protestant mob approaches, in Northern Ireland, Monday, Dec.

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I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#22 Dec 7, 2012
tha Professor wrote:
The North will never be Ireland until the bloody Brit rag is taken down 365 days a year, and the Irish flag is flying there where it belongs.
Down with Unionist thugs!
The people in NI don't want to be part of the ROI and the people of the ROI don't want them.

In fact the only place in the British Isles where the majority do want unification is the mainland UK.

Why do you hate the people of Ireland so much that you want to force things on them that they don't want?

“Liberalism”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#23 Dec 7, 2012
If UK have anti-eu politic, will loose Scotland north Ireland and the most of colonies.
Rio

Bromley, UK

#24 Dec 7, 2012
I can read wrote:
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The people in NI don't want to be part of the ROI and the people of the ROI don't want them.
In fact the only place in the British Isles where the majority do want unification is the mainland UK.
Why do you hate the people of Ireland so much that you want to force things on them that they don't want?
Maybe we should have a referendum across the WHOLE of the UK to decide what to do about Northern Ireland, and not be held hostage by a small bunch of so-called loyalists who are the cause of these troubles.

I can't predict all the Brits want to jettison Ulster, but it would be a close call, I am sure. Most people in England, at least, are sick to the teeth about all the problems brought up by Northern Ireland.

Give Ulster to the Republic, I say, as it should have been done 100 years ago!
Rio

Bromley, UK

#25 Dec 7, 2012
I can read wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do you hate the people of Ireland so much that you want to force things on them that they don't want?
Maybe the reason is that we end up paying a heavy price because they are unable to live peacefully together?

On the mainland, we understand the alternance of parties in power (Labour-Tory-Labour-Tory) and we can accept that. Why can't they practice the same in Northen Ireland? Loyalists-Nationalists-Loyalis ts- etc...

Like that every dog has its day and everybody is happy.
I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#27 Dec 7, 2012
Rio wrote:
<quoted text>
Maybe the reason is that we end up paying a heavy price because they are unable to live peacefully together?
On the mainland, we understand the alternance of parties in power (Labour-Tory-Labour-Tory) and we can accept that. Why can't they practice the same in Northen Ireland? Loyalists-Nationalists-Loyalis ts- etc...
Like that every dog has its day and everybody is happy.
So you want to abandon democracy as well as force the people in the north to unify with the ROI?

Unionists and republicans should just take turns?
Rio

Bromley, UK

#28 Dec 7, 2012
I can read wrote:
<quoted text>
So you want to abandon democracy as well as force the people in the north to unify with the ROI?
Unionists and republicans should just take turns?
Well, as you know, when it's always the same people in power, it creates an explosive situation.
A mecanism to alternate power could be a good solution.
Democracy can wear many hats. We have to be inventive.
Don't forget that for years, catholics couldn't even vote in Ulster!

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#29 Dec 7, 2012
Rio wrote:
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Maybe we should have a referendum across the WHOLE of the UK to decide what to do about Northern Ireland, and not be held hostage by a small bunch of so-called loyalists who are the cause of these troubles.
I can't predict all the Brits want to jettison Ulster, but it would be a close call, I am sure. Most people in England, at least, are sick to the teeth about all the problems brought up by Northern Ireland.
Give Ulster to the Republic, I say, as it should have been done 100 years ago!
interesting concept.

a referendum on the "ethnic cleansing" of NI Protestants.

there you go again speaking for "most people" in England.

"so-called loyalists" you do have difficulty understanding the concept of loyalty don,t you?

Since: Nov 10

Dublin

#30 Dec 7, 2012
mikev483 wrote:
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interesting concept.
a referendum on the "ethnic cleansing" of NI Protestants.
Ethnic cleansing?

If you look, you'll find certain NI Protestant groups who have mentioned that in the past.....
Rio

Bromley, UK

#31 Dec 7, 2012
mikev483 wrote:
<quoted text>
"so-called loyalists" you do have difficulty understanding the concept of loyalty don,t you?
Yes, the so-called loyalists, because they are only loyal to themselves.
I don't think anyone in England asked them to hold on Ireland for us, do you? They only managed to block a very good arrangement between the Irish nationalists and Westminster through blackmail.
After all, the British government of the time was quite ready to give the WHOLE of Ireland to the republicans; so that tells you how important Ulster is for us in England!
Rio

Bromley, UK

#32 Dec 7, 2012
mikev483 wrote:
<quoted text>
interesting concept.
a referendum on the "ethnic cleansing" of NI Protestants.
Don't be so dramatic...
Who's talking about ethnic cleansing?
Nobody would force the loyalists to leave. If the want to stay, they become Irish citizen. If they prefer to stay British, then it's their choice to leave and come to the mainland.
The same case happened in most decolonisations; many Brits in Africa, Far East, etc... decided to go home to stay Brit.

Since: Nov 10

Dublin

#33 Dec 7, 2012
Rio wrote:
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Yes, the so-called loyalists, because they are only loyal to themselves.
I don't think anyone in England asked them to hold on Ireland for us, do you? They only managed to block a very good arrangement between the Irish nationalists and Westminster through blackmail.
After all, the British government of the time was quite ready to give the WHOLE of Ireland to the republicans; so that tells you how important Ulster is for us in England!
What are the odds Mike will misunderstand what your saying and think your talking about the troubles?

I'd say 1/50

Since: Mar 12

Location hidden

#34 Dec 7, 2012
Dubbadub wrote:
<quoted text>
Ethnic cleansing?
If you look, you'll find certain NI Protestant groups who have mentioned that in the past.....
have they?

and you will find that many Republican groups have actually attempted it,bombings, shootings that kind of thing,you know.

Since: Mar 12

Location hidden

#35 Dec 7, 2012
Rio wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't be so dramatic...
Who's talking about ethnic cleansing?
Nobody would force the loyalists to leave. If the want to stay, they become Irish citizen. If they prefer to stay British, then it's their choice to leave and come to the mainland.
The same case happened in most decolonisations; many Brits in Africa, Far East, etc... decided to go home to stay Brit.
like i said you do struggle with the concept of loyalty.

it would not be a problem for you to loose your country overnight (mostly because you hate it)but thankfully you are in a minority,most British people are proud to be British,and would not choose to become citizens of another country overnight.

Since: Mar 12

Location hidden

#36 Dec 7, 2012
Dubbadub wrote:
<quoted text>
What are the odds Mike will misunderstand what your saying and think your talking about the troubles?
I'd say 1/50
that's right Dub no one is as clever as you and your chum RIO/RONAN are they?

p.s any thoughts why Topix admin took down the link, you put up to the details of British soldiers convicted of murder in NI?

good job i am not as clever as you are isn't it,else i might work out you never put a link up,and useD the old Topix admin lie to hide the fact eh?

but like i said,no one is as clever as you and RIO/RONAN.

Since: Nov 10

Dublin

#37 Dec 7, 2012
mikev483 wrote:
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have they?
and you will find that many Republican groups have actually attempted it,bombings, shootings that kind of thing,you know.
Yeah.

Who killed more civilians in NI, Republicans or Loyalists?

Who took hundreds of innocent people off the streets and murdered them because they were Catholics?

Over 85% of murders committed by Loyalist groups were carried out on civilians.

Ethnic cleansing Mike???

Just ignore all that, scumbag....

Since: Nov 10

Dublin

#38 Dec 7, 2012
mikev483 wrote:
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like i said you do struggle with the concept of loyalty.
it would not be a problem for you to loose your country overnight (mostly because you hate it)but thankfully you are in a minority,most British people are proud to be British,and would not choose to become citizens of another country overnight.
They can keep their British citizenship even in a United Ireland situation.

Plenty of British citizens live in the ROI, and are very welcome.

Pity the loyal British in NI have a problem with doing the same and extending a welcome to the people who have been there longer than them.

Get your colonial stain off my country.....
Rio

Bromley, UK

#39 Dec 7, 2012
mikev483 wrote:
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like i said you do struggle with the concept of loyalty.
it would not be a problem for you to loose your country overnight (mostly because you hate it)but thankfully you are in a minority,most British people are proud to be British,and would not choose to become citizens of another country overnight.
But then, you also forget that some people are also very proud to be Irish and don't think they should be forced to be British.
That cuts both ways.

Most Brits came back from the colonies, but some did stay. Not everybody is as dramatic as you, and some people consider they have grown roots where they live and therefore see no point in giving them up just for a passport. Not everybody thinks like you; that's what you fail to understand with your dogmatic approach to any issue.

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#40 Dec 7, 2012
Rio wrote:
<quoted text>
Maybe we should have a referendum across the WHOLE of the UK to decide what to do about Northern Ireland, and not be held hostage by a small bunch of so-called loyalists who are the cause of these troubles.
I can't predict all the Brits want to jettison Ulster, but it would be a close call, I am sure. Most people in England, at least, are sick to the teeth about all the problems brought up by Northern Ireland.
Give Ulster to the Republic, I say, as it should have been done 100 years ago!
try this exercise RIO/RONAN and see how long it takes for your head to explode.

Maybe we should have a referendum across the WHOLE of the UK to decide what to do about "British Muslims", and not be held hostage by a small bunch of so-called "British Muslims" who are the cause of these troubles.

what iv'e done there is take YOUR text and changed a few words,let me know what you think.(after you have reported me to Topix for Islamophobia,will do)

Since: Mar 12

Location hidden

#41 Dec 7, 2012
Dubbadub wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah.
Who killed more civilians in NI, Republicans or Loyalists?
Who took hundreds of innocent people off the streets and murdered them because they were Catholics?
Over 85% of murders committed by Loyalist groups were carried out on civilians.
Ethnic cleansing Mike???
Just ignore all that, scumbag....
yes groups from both side of the divide had a go at ethnic cleansing.

i am not sure why you keep pointing out to me that there were/are loyalist terrorist as well as Republican terrorists.I HAVE NEVER DENIED THAT FACT OR EVER DEFENDED ANY TERRORIST.

the reason these threads end up about Republican terrorists is because sad inadequate's like yourself and rio/ronan insist on hero worshiping the vermin.

OK scumbag?

Since: Mar 12

Location hidden

#42 Dec 7, 2012
Rio wrote:
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But then, you also forget that some people are also very proud to be Irish and don't think they should be forced to be British.
That cuts both ways.
Most Brits came back from the colonies, but some did stay. Not everybody is as dramatic as you, and some people consider they have grown roots where they live and therefore see no point in giving them up just for a passport. Not everybody thinks like you; that's what you fail to understand with your dogmatic approach to any issue.
like i said you have no idea about loyalty.

you really think the British people of NI would like to give up being British???? have you ever met a NI Loyalist????

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