Kentucky anxious, seen leaning Clinton's way

[Ceallach]

I am a 39 y/o college educated, white female who is from and lives in Louisville and I will be working to get out the vote on Tuesday for the Obama campaign. I was also one 8000+ people from all walks of life that turned out to hear him speak at a campaign rally Monday night. I do not consider myself to be from "Appalachia" as Louisville is the largest urban and most diverse city in the state. Not everyone in Kentucky is xenophobic and ignorant.

[Tony]

Mike wrote:

Bill Clinton was able to carry the state twice... why, because he knew where voters in Kentucky come from.

Great analysis! I am black and I grew up in the South. I live in NYC now, and I am one of the Northeastern liberals -- but I have southern roots. That's Obama's problem. He has surrounded himself with people who have no connection to the heartland, and unlike most blacks in the US he has no southern connection. Yes, there is racism, but I would have never disrespected church-goers, even though I only go to church for weddings and funerals. Even black southern church-goers were offended by those statements. Anyway, Obama is beholden to the white liberal elite (not blacks) who direct his campaign. They despise centrist politics -- even though this is the best strategic option for the Dems. Apparently, they would rather lost year after year, than get in on a centrist platform and work to get more liberal things accomplished. Bush got in being a moderate and went to the extreme right in terms of war and liberties. The Dems are afraid to do anything successful. I guess it's not in our nature. OBAMA WILL LOSE...

[Tony]

KPOM wrote:

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Yes, we've had two African-American mayors, the most recent being Daley's predecessor in 1989. We've also had a woman as mayor. Sure, we have typical inner-city issues, but we've been pretty progressive when it comes to our national politicians (particularly our senators).

Given Chicago's demographics, you should have black mayors. Why do the Dalyeys dominate Chicago politics? The city is not known for have "clean" politics. yes, Illin is a good "liberal" state, but when you look at social inequality in the big cities and the white flight to the suburbs, it actually looks worse than the South. The Chicago school system is one of the most segregated in the nation, and its predominately black schools are riddled with problems. So before people ridicule the South, they should look at themselves.

[E Rutherford]

It is so sad , that people in states do not vote for some-one with ideas to help the US instead of focusing on a candidates race. This is appalling. the rest of the world do not ubderstand this. It is some-one brains, intelligence, integrity, aptitude and judjement that makes the difference, not the colour of his skin. this why younge peoople and educated voters lean more towards Obama. They do not stereotype persons and harbour less prejudices. younger people have to school and colleges with people who look different frm them and so do not care. . It is older and Stupid people who still have this view . Amyway Obama will win , becaust there are more decent people who will vote for him and his ideas and inspiration.

[mozella]

Not all black people support Barack Obama.
Not all women support Hillary Clinton.
Not all Republicans are racist.
Hispanics, Asians, Native Americans, Muslims, little people, disabled people and a whole lot of other people in this country have nobody at all to vote for using the logic (or illogic) of those who insist on stereotyping.
Some people think Hillary Clinton is the best candidate, some Obama, some McCain.
That's why we vote.

[kmr]

I am a Hillary supporter that was raised in the Tennessee, Virginia, West Virginia area and the way Obama showed so much disrespect to the god fearing gun clinging white hard working man there is no way he will ever be elected in those states. I am a Hillary supporter that used to fall into that catagory and still holds many of their values. I will be voting for, donating to and campagning for McCain in the fall if Obama is naminated. No Obama 08, Hillary 2012.

[kmr]

E Rutherford wrote:

It is so sad , that people in states do not vote for some-one with ideas to help the US instead of focusing on a candidates race. This is appalling. the rest of the world do not ubderstand this. It is some-one brains, intelligence, integrity, aptitude and judjement that makes the difference, not the colour of his skin. this why younge peoople and educated voters lean more towards Obama. They do not stereotype persons and harbour less prejudices. younger people have to school and colleges with people who look different frm them and so do not care.. It is older and Stupid people who still have this view . Amyway Obama will win , becaust there are more decent people who will vote for him and his ideas and inspiration.

The color of ones skin does not matter, what matters is that he is the most liberal democrat since McGovern. He is to radical. He must be stopped. If he was C. Powell or a moderate democrat then this would not be an issue but he wants to socialize this country and take away to many American rights and that is not right.

[marya]

The racism expressed by the people of West Virginia and apparently Kentucky is unfortunate for them. They are showing these areas of the country to be backward-thinking and not the kind of places that new, innovative businesses would eagerly move to. Too bad for them since they need new business.

[thomas41]

Hillary is the best person for the job at this time. she has specific solutions to the problems that middle-class Americans are facing. She is the only one that is fighting for the people that really need help, not HOPE! If she is not on that ticket, McCain will be our next President. She has the strength, experience and wisdom that we need at home and abroad.

[show me]

mute point obama has won the right to win or lose in november live with it

[khosrow]

Tony wrote:

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Oh, please. White people in the Northeast and West Coast will only vote for a black person who is post-racial. They have their own racial hangups. Powerful whites always try to put racism on poor white people. They are just less sophsticated in expressing it. Corporate America is just as lily white as structures of power in West Virginia. So why is a paper like the Chicago Tribune mocking Kentucky? How is the quality of education on the South Side of Chicago? When is the last time Chicago had a black mayor? Has it? Has the state ever elected a black governor? White blue-state hypocrisy is far more dangerous than anything poor whites could do.

Very true. I agree.

[khosrow]

thomas41 wrote:

Hillary is the best person for the job at this time. she has specific solutions to the problems that middle-class Americans are facing. She is the only one that is fighting for the people that really need help, not HOPE! If she is not on that ticket, McCain will be our next President. She has the strength, experience and wisdom that we need at home and abroad.

Very Very true.
The warmonger McCain and unsubstantiated presidential affirmative action(Obama) are no match for Hillary Clinton, qua moderation, realism achievable goals, hard work for people, in touch with people and real issues. 8 years of right wing policies with nothing to show for by Bush-McCain administration is enough. An extreme leftist policy initiatives of Obama are also not good enough.

Hillary is the best and safest bet. She is an all American hard working self made woman who doesn’t go around flaunting her education, who doesn’t go around ridiculing the hard working people by labelling them as “bitter” like Obama does.

I think Obama’s “sweetie” talk should not prevail. He is a joke(too soft to be a president)

Go Working Class America, Go Hillary Clinton, Go Kentucky, Puerto Rico and Oregon. Show the people with gold spoon in their mouth what your work/vote is worth.

[LDW]

Prehaps the extra states in Illinois Senator Barack Obama's imagined 57 state USA have inserted themselves between Illinois and Kentucky? Is it any mystery the people of Kentucky have decided Obama doesn't know anything about them and hasn't bothered to find out?

From taylormarsh.com :

"(Obama) goes on:

“I think whoever the Democratic [nominee] is we’re going to have some work to do in a state like Kentucky,� Obama said.

Well, you will have a lot of work to do in Kentucky, Barack. And if you're writing it off to Hillary now, why should anyone believe you will actually contest it against McCain later?

But even all this doesn't compare to this doozy:

"What it says is that I'm not very well known in that part of the country," Obama said. "Sen. Clinton, I think, is much better known, coming from a nearby state of Arkansas. So it's not surprising that she would have an advantage in some of those states in the middle."

No, this is not a made-up quote from The Onion. He actually believes this, apparently. Problem is, a quick glance at a U.S. map reveals that Illinois actually borders Kentucky and is clearly closer than Arkansas. Illinois is also closer to West Virginia, Pennsylvania and Ohio. Obama has been scaring me with these frankly Bushian statements for months, and this one is a whooper."

[ctop]

red earth wrote:

they call the white house that name for a reason

White on the outside and the colors of the rainbow on the inside...

[Bink1]

Her latest tricks for her rabid blogging suporters because she is getting little coverage from Media:

Clinton is maning an all out effort to confuse the low knowledge voter about obama...and is getting little coverage for her outrageous claims from MSM or Cable so she has turned to the bloggers with this on Friday...

"But by confusing the facts and casting doubt on his legitimacy, she can encourage resentment among her supporters that will persist even if she drops out after June 4 and endorses Obama. If they feel that she was pushed out illegitimately, at least some of her supporters may decide to sit it out or vote for McCain in hopes of giving her another chance in 2012.

In addition to creating questions about Obama's legitimacy as the nominee, she played the gender card yet again last night. She said that she "deeply regrets the vitriol and the mean-spiritedness and the terrible insults and rhetoric that has been thrown around at you for supporting me, at women in general, at many of those who support my campaign because of who they are and their stand based on principle." This is not the first time she has claimed that she is being treated differently because of her gender, and it appears to encourage women who feel she has been mistreated because she is a woman to keep feeling that way.

This, like the talking points designed to cloud Obama's legitimacy in terms of the math, could be part of a strategy to fan the flames of resentment among her supporters, particularly women. Yes, she may bow out gracefully after the primaries are over, but she wants to make sure her supporters are as disappointed and even angry when she does. She appears to want them to feel that she was wronged, making it harder for them to turn around and support Obama. She'll bow out eventually and give a speech that will probably tug at people's heartstrings and make them wistful, with some people perhaps hoping that she gets another chance in 4 years."

[audacity]

Obama is not ready to lead this country. Americans do not know the real Obama. And when they do, they will be shock with they will see.

Here is a link to truth about who Obama truly is

http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/

[Mark]

Kentucky LEANS toward Clinton? I think a 28% Real Clear Politics average in favor of Clinton goes way, way beyond leaning.

[bobbi]

OMG-- pretty damning stuff- no intended reference to jerrymyahh wright

audacity wrote:

Obama is not ready to lead this country. Americans do not know the real Obama. And when they do, they will be shock with they will see.
Here is a link to truth about who Obama truly is
http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/

[hillforprez]

Go Hillary!!!

She is the BEST candidate. She truly cares, and she WILL turn this country around for the better.

Don't vote how the MEDIA wants you to vote. Vote for who you truly feel can WIN in November and who CAN bring us back to peace and prosperity.

This race is NOT over. vote,vote,vote.......for Hillary!

[bobbi]

the racism expressed by 97% of the black males in Penn. by voting for abarack is unfortunate for them.

good for me, good for thee

a very week argument from obammies side as they are more racist

marya wrote:

The racism expressed by the people of West Virginia and apparently Kentucky is unfortunate for them. They are showing these areas of the country to be backward-thinking and not the kind of places that new, innovative businesses would eagerly move to. Too bad for them since they need new business.