Despite same-sex marriage shift, opponents fight on

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This week, as the Supreme Court prepares to hear two landmark cases concerning same-sex marriage, momentum appears to be on the side of gay rights: A recent poll shows support for gay marriage at an all-time high; voters in Maine and Maryland approved same-sex marriage at the ballot box last November; and in the past few weeks, a slew of ... (more)

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Dane Thorsen

AOL

#105 Mar 28, 2013
Eric Gustafson wrote:
<quoted text>
That's how an active member of the American Taliban would frame their argument.
Religion has nothing to do with politics in America, never have and as long as we remain a Free Democracy, never will.
We are a nation evolved from the idea that each individual has the god given right to pursue his/her happiness independent of their personal beliefs, preferences and practices so long as their activities do not infringe on the next person's right and access to the same.
You are free to embrace your superstition and myths, but you are not free to "Tread on Me"...... with those dogmatic beliefs...
The End........
We all must understand that there is no place for values or standards in "progressive" America.
Bow Down Swine!
Surrender, Submit, OBEY....the Will of The Pelosi.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#106 Mar 28, 2013
senior citizen wrote:
<quoted text>
GOD DOES NOT MAKE MISTAKES. Humans make mistakes. Read Gods words for yourself. This is an abomination of the Bible which is GOD'S word.
Leviticus 20:13 &#9658;
New International Version (©1984)
"'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
New Living Translation (©2007)
"If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman, both men have committed a detestable act. They must both be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense.
English Standard Version (©2001)
If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them.
Holman Christian Standard Bible (©2009)
If a man sleeps with a man as with a woman, they have both committed a detestable thing. They must be put to death; their blood is on their own hands.
International Standard Version (©2012)
"If a man has sexual relations with another male as he would with a woman, both have committed a repulsive act. They are certainly to be put to death.
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
When a man has sexual intercourse with another man as with a woman, both men are doing something disgusting and must be put to death. They deserve to die.
Gay guys don't 'lie' with women. They have no attraction or erection to make sexual intercourse with women possible
http://www.well.com/user/aquarius/
.
So your entire collection of copyrighted fake 'bibles' were all rewritten incorrectly; a mistake that invalidates the entire 'bible'
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#107 Mar 28, 2013
senior citizen wrote:
<quoted text>
GOD DOES NOT MAKE MISTAKES. Humans make mistakes. Read Gods words for yourself. This is an abomination of the Bible which is GOD'S word.
Leviticus 20:13 &#9658;
New International Version (©1984)
"'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
New Living Translation (©2007)
"If a man practices homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman, both men have committed a detestable act. They must both be put to death, for they are guilty of a capital offense.
English Standard Version (©2001)
If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them.
Holman Christian Standard Bible (©2009)
If a man sleeps with a man as with a woman, they have both committed a detestable thing. They must be put to death; their blood is on their own hands.
International Standard Version (©2012)
"If a man has sexual relations with another male as he would with a woman, both have committed a repulsive act. They are certainly to be put to death.
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
When a man has sexual intercourse with another man as with a woman, both men are doing something disgusting and must be put to death. They deserve to die.
If you live long enough to read all the way to the last last chapter of Leviticus; the last verse reveals who the 613 Laws in Leviticus applied to:
.
++++++++++
Leviticus 27:34> These are the Commandements which the Lord commanded Moses, for the children of Israel in mount Sinai.
++++++++++
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The children of Israel in mount Sinai have been dead for thousands of years; so you have some serious catching up to do
.
You can start by trading your camel in on a Toyota; sugar

Since: Mar 11

Minnesota's North Coast

#108 Mar 28, 2013
Dane Thorsen wrote:
<quoted text>
We all must understand that there is no place for values or standards in "progressive" America.
Bow Down Swine!
Surrender, Submit, OBEY....the Will of The Pelosi.
Sure there is, the values our nation was founded on...

Ever hear the phrase, "all men are created Equal"?

Since: Mar 11

Minnesota's North Coast

#109 Mar 28, 2013
senior citizen wrote:
<quoted text>
NOT TRUE - GO BACK AND READ FROM VS 12 ON DOWN. Please try to comprehend what you read. The facts are there. If your problem is that you worship your Messiah Obama and will only obey him then I can not help you.
Dear, i've read your cult book more than you have...

your cult lied to you. it is proven fact that your mad-up god didn't even get his own creation story right.

proven fact that humans did not come from two genetically identical people.

proven fact there was never a global flood in the time of humans...

your cult lied to you....over and over again...

this is why your cult and its superstitions and rites have nothing to do with our marriage laws.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#110 Mar 28, 2013
Bob wrote:
Anything gay is evil and demonic. Gays are demon possesssed. Gay weddings means the end. Time for GOD to fry the earth. Read Revelation.
Perhaps 'you' should read Revelation; Bob
.
Only gay men will make it to heaven
.
They will only be redeemed from among men, and they have to be the first fruits
.
Men who have sex with women won't get in
.
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Revelation 14:1> And I looked, and loe, a Lambe stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundreth fourty and foure thousand, hauing his Fathers Name written in their foreheads.
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Revelation 14:2> And I heard a voice from heauen, as the voice of many waters, and as the voyce of a great thunder: and I heard the voyce of harpers, harping with their harpes.
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Revelation 14:3> And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the foure beasts, and the Elders, and no man could learne that song, but the hundreth and fourtie and foure thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
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Revelation 14:4> These are they which were not defiled with women: for they are virgines: These are they which follow the Lambe whithersoeuer hee goeth: These were redeemed from among men, being the first fruits vnto God, and to the Lambe.
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Revelation 14:5> And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.
++++++++++
senior citizen

Granite City, IL

#111 Mar 28, 2013
Rainbow Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
Copyrighted 'bibles' are not the Word of GOD
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They are the words of the individual copyright holders
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The first copyrighted 'bible' was published on St. Jerome's day; September 30, 1952
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Prior to that date; neither 'sex' nor 'homosexual' were anywhere to be found in the Bible; and for good reason:
http://etb-history-theology.blogspot.com/2012...
Wrong Bible written: there were Bibles during WWII and even in Germany

http://carm.org/when-was-bible-written-and-wh...

Homosexual acts talked about in Leviticus
http://carm.org/leviticus-18-22

Since: Mar 11

Minnesota's North Coast

#112 Mar 28, 2013
senior citizen wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong Bible written: there were Bibles during WWII and even in Germany
http://carm.org/when-was-bible-written-and-wh...
Homosexual acts talked about in Leviticus
http://carm.org/leviticus-18-22
the same chapter where your 'god' said it was OK to own other humans as slaves?

doesn't sound like any god to me... how can you follow a god myth that says it's OK to own slaves?

your cult lied to you..again...
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#113 Mar 28, 2013
senior citizen wrote:
Wrong Bible written: there were Bibles during WWII and even in Germany
http://carm.org/when-was-bible-written-and-wh...
The cash-strapped fundies started rewriting the New Testament in 1937
.
Another group started rewriting the Old Testament in 1946; but were also dogged by shoestring finances
.
The two groups merged in 1950 and combined their efforts to publish the first copyrighted 'bible' in 1952
.
Since that time more than 42 different copyrighted 'bibles' have flooded the GOD biz. No two copyrighted books can be alike; as required by International Copyright Law
.
senior citizen wrote:
Homosexual acts talked about in Leviticus
http://carm.org/leviticus-18-22
No
.
Sex and homosexual were 'added' to the fake 'bible' 61 years ago; in 1952. Prior to 1952; they were not in the Bible
.
Obviously the Leviticus verse you quote is a biblical description of opposite-sex orientation; for lack of better language at the time
.
Same-sex orientation is better described in the Book of Samuel where the Bible describes marriage:
.
++++++++++
1 Samuel 18 :1> And it came to passe when hee made an ende of speaking vnto Saul, that the soule of Ionathan was knit with the soule of Dauid, and Ionathan loued him as his owne soule.
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1 Samuel 18:3> Then Ionathan and Dauid made a couenant, because he loued him as his owne soule.
.
1 Samuel 18:4> And Ionathan stript himselfe of the robe that was vpon him, and gaue it to Dauid, and his garments, euen to his sword, and to his bow, and to his girdle.
.
1 Samuel 20:41> And assoone as the ladde was gone, Dauid arose out of a place toward the South, and fell on his face to the ground, and bowed himselfe three times: and they kissed one another, and wept one with another, vntill Dauid exceeded.
.
1 Samuel 20:42> And Ionathan said to Dauid, Goe in peace, forasmuch as wee haue sworne both of vs in the Name of the Lord, saying; The Lord be betweene me and thee, and betweene my seede and thy seede for euer. And hee arose, and departed: and Ionathan went into the citie.
.
2 Samuel 1:25> How are the mightie fallen in the midst of the battell! O Ionathan, thou wast slaine in thine high places.
.
2 Samuel 1:26> I am distressed for thee, my brother Ionathan, very pleasant hast thou beene vnto mee: thy loue to mee was wonderfull, passing the loue of women.
++++++++++
Yeah sure

Lehighton, PA

#114 Mar 28, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>Sure there is, the values our nation was founded on...
Ever hear the phrase, "all men are created Equal"?
Wooddick, the operative word is "men" ... you pervs aren't men. LOL
Yeah sure

Lehighton, PA

#115 Mar 28, 2013
Rainbow Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
Perhaps 'you' should read Revelation; Bob
.
Only gay men will make it to heaven
.
They will only be redeemed from among men, and they have to be the first fruits
.
Hey Beavis, he said, "Fruits." ROTFLMAO LOL
Lilith_Satans_wh o_re

Bellevue, WA

#116 Mar 28, 2013
Yeah sure wrote:
<quoted text>
Wooddick, the operative word is "men" ... you pervs aren't men. LOL
And you chriSTAINS aren't human
senior citizen

Granite City, IL

#117 Mar 28, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>the same chapter where your 'god' said it was OK to own other humans as slaves?
doesn't sound like any god to me... how can you follow a god myth that says it's OK to own slaves?your cult lied to you..again...
Yes there was slavery is in the Old Testament which was the way they paid their bills if they could not pay them any other way, which was BEFORE Jesus was born, however there were also slaves during the Civil War and we also had the KKK which the first one were solely Democrates.
Lilith_Satans_wh o_re

Bellevue, WA

#118 Mar 28, 2013
senior citizen wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes there was slavery is in the Old Testament which was the way they paid their bills if they could not pay them any other way, which was BEFORE Jesus was born, however there were also slaves during the Civil War and we also had the KKK which the first one were solely Democrates.
sorry but your buybull is a mythology
senior citizen

Granite City, IL

#119 Mar 28, 2013
Rainbow Kid wrote:
<quoted text>
The cash-strapped fundies started rewriting the New Testament in 1937
.
Another group started rewriting the Old Testament in 1946; but were also dogged by shoestring finances
.
The two groups merged in 1950 and combined their efforts to publish the first copyrighted 'bible' in 1952
.
Since that time more than 42 different copyrighted 'bibles' have flooded the GOD biz. No two copyrighted books can be alike; as required by International Copyright Law
.
<quoted text>
No
.
Sex and homosexual were 'added' to the fake 'bible' 61 years ago; in 1952. Prior to 1952; they were not in the Bible
.
Obviously the Leviticus verse you quote is a biblical description of opposite-sex orientation; for lack of better language at the time
.
Same-sex orientation is better described in the Book of Samuel where the Bible describes marriage:
.
++++++++++
1 Samuel 18 :1> And it came to passe when hee made an ende of speaking vnto Saul, that the soule of Ionathan was knit with the soule of Dauid, and Ionathan loued him as his owne soule.
.
1 Samuel 18:3> Then Ionathan and Dauid made a couenant, because he loued him as his owne soule.
.
1 Samuel 18:4> And Ionathan stript himselfe of the robe that was vpon him, and gaue it to Dauid, and his garments, euen to his sword, and to his bow, and to his girdle.
.
1 Samuel 20:41> And assoone as the ladde was gone, Dauid arose out of a place toward the South, and fell on his face to the ground, and bowed himselfe three times: and they kissed one another, and wept one with another, vntill Dauid exceeded.
.
1 Samuel 20:42> And Ionathan said to Dauid, Goe in peace, forasmuch as wee haue sworne both of vs in the Name of the Lord, saying; The Lord be betweene me and thee, and betweene my seede and thy seede for euer. And hee arose, and departed: and Ionathan went into the citie.
.
2 Samuel 1:25> How are the mightie fallen in the midst of the battell! O Ionathan, thou wast slaine in thine high places.
.
2 Samuel 1:26> I am distressed for thee, my brother Ionathan, very pleasant hast thou beene vnto mee: thy loue to mee was wonderfull, passing the loue of women.
++++++++++
NOT TRUE: http://carm.org/when-was-bible-written-and-wh...

This tells you who wrote and when (year) each book was written in the Bible.

Since: Mar 11

Minnesota's North Coast

#120 Mar 28, 2013
senior citizen wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes there was slavery is in the Old Testament which was the way they paid their bills if they could not pay them any other way, which was BEFORE Jesus was born, however there were also slaves during the Civil War and we also had the KKK which the first one were solely Democrates.
What does that have to do with your god condoning slavery? how can you follow sucha prick of a god? no moral person would get into that cult, yet you did...

Since: Mar 11

Minnesota's North Coast

#121 Mar 28, 2013
Yeah sure wrote:
<quoted text>
Wooddick, the operative word is "men" ... you pervs aren't men. LOL
I'm not a pervert, i am a man.

you wouldn't know what that is about...
senior citizen

Granite City, IL

#122 Mar 28, 2013
Lilith_Satans_who_re wrote:
<quoted text>sorry but your buybull is a mythology
READ IT FOR YOURSELF.

KKK Terrorist Arm of the Democratic Party
By Frances Rice

History shows that the Ku Klux Klan was the terrorist arm of the Democrat Party. This ugly fact about the Democrat Party is detailed in the book, A Short History of Reconstruction,(Harper & Row Publishers, Inc., 1990) by Dr. Eric Foner, the renown liberal historian who is the DeWitt Clinton Professor of History at Columbia University. As a further testament to his impeccable credentials, Professor Foner is only the second person to serve as president of the three major professional organizations: the Organization of American Historians, American Historical Association, and Society of American Historians.
Democrats in the last century did not hide their connections to the Ku Klux Klan. Georgia-born Democrat Nathan Bedford Forrest, a Grand Dragon of the Ku Klux Klan wrote on page 21 of the September 1928 edition of the Klan’s “The Kourier Magazine”:“I have never voted for any man who was not a regular Democrat. My father … never voted for any man who was not a Democrat. My grandfather was …the head of the Ku Klux Klan in reconstruction days…. My great-grandfather was a life-long Democrat…. My great-great-grandfather was…one of the founders of the Democratic party.”

Dr. Foner in his book explores the history of the origins of Ku Klux Klan and provides a chilling account of the atrocities committed by Democrats against Republicans, black and white.

On page 146 of his book, Professor Foner wrote:“Founded in 1866 as a Tennessee social club, the Ku Klux Klan spread into nearly every Southern state, launching a ‘reign of terror‘ against Republican leaders black and white.” Page 184 of his book contains the definitive statements:“In effect, the Klan was a military force serving the interests of the Democratic party, the planter class, and all those who desired the restoration of white supremacy. It aimed to destroy the Republican party’s infrastructure, undermine the Reconstruction state, reestablish control of the black labor force, and restore racial subordination in every aspect of Southern life.”

Heartbreaking are Professor Foner’s recitations of the horrific acts of terror inflicted by Democrats on black and white Republicans. Recounted on pages 184-185 of his book is one such act of terror:“Jack Dupree, a victim of a particularly brutal murder in Monroe County, Mississippi - assailants cut his throat and disemboweled him, all within sight of his wife, who had just given birth to twins - was ‘president of a republican club‘ and known as a man who ‘would speak his mind.’”

“White gangs roamed New Orleans, intimidating blacks and breaking up Republican meetings,“ wrote Dr. Foner on page 146 of his book. On page 186, he wrote:“An even more extensive ‘reign of terror’ engulfed Jackson, a plantation county in Florida’s panhandle.‘That is where Satan has his seat,‘ remarked a black clergyman; all told over 150 persons were killed, among them black leaders and Jewish merchant Samuel Fleischman, resented for his Republican views and for dealing fairly with black customers.“

Frances Rice is the Chairman of the National Black Republican Association and may be contacted at: http://www.nbra.info/
senior citizen

Granite City, IL

#123 Mar 28, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>What does that have to do with your god condoning slavery? how can you follow sucha prick of a god? no moral person would get into that cult, yet you did...
You call it slavery when they were working to pay their bills - do you call going to work every day slavery? I am sure you do NOT. I call it paying my bills.

My GOD is a great GOD, AND A LOVING GOD.
Yeah sure

Lehighton, PA

#124 Mar 28, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>I'm not a pervert, i am a man.
you wouldn't know what that is about...
Yeah, Wooddick, sure ... LOL

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