Dangers of America's Mexico-bashing

Dangers of America's Mexico-bashing

There are 2042 comments on the Seattle Post-Intelligencer story from Jun 23, 2008, titled Dangers of America's Mexico-bashing. In it, Seattle Post-Intelligencer reports that:

A century ago Porfirio Diaz, a Mexican dictator, lamented the fact that his country was "so far from God and so close to the United States." The difference today is that Mexico has swallowed its doubts and ...

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venceremos

United States

#2386 Jul 9, 2008
JumpinBlackTrash wrote:
<quoted text>You mean "Song and Dance Man"? kinda' like Sammy Davis Jr.?
Well at least Sammy wasn't prejudiced he loved White women.
United States citizen

Canyon Country, CA

#2387 Jul 9, 2008
Among the many controversies involved with the issue of illegal immigration is the debate over whether it is an economic benefit or drain on public finances. The specific question is; do illegal immigrants provide more tax revenues to public treasuries than they receive from them? As with all illegal activities, the covert nature of illegal immigration makes it impossible to measure its impact with absolute accuracy.

Nevertheless, at the request of the U.S. Senate Finance Committee, which sought an answer to the cost/revenue question of illegal immigration, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) reviewed pertinent federal data and 29 reports generated by various state and local governments that had examined the financial impact of illegal immigration on their jurisdictions. In December 2007, the CBO reported the results of its research, concluding that for most state and local governments, tax expenditures for illegal immigrants exceeded tax revenues from them.

Because federal law requires that state and local governments provide education, health care, and law enforcement services to all residents in their jurisdictions, regardless of the residents’ legal status, state and local governments shoulder virtually all the financial burden of illegal immigration. There is some token federal funding, for example education, local governments’ single largest expense, can receive up to 10% in federal funding.

The CBO report confirmed many of the realities of illegal immigration, realities that have become all too familiar to the local governments that have had to endure them. Among these are that illegal immigrants rarely have health insurance and, therefore, rely heavily on emergency health facilities and public hospitals for non-emergency illnesses and other health related problems. The cost of educating the children of immigrants who are not fluent in English increases the cost per student by as much as 40%. For many jurisdictions along the Mexican border the cost of law enforcement activities involving illegal immigrants runs into tens of millions of dollars per year and is a significant diversion of budgeted funds. Because the average household income for illegal immigrants is as much as 74% less than that of legal residents, immigrants pay significantly less in income taxes and sales taxes. Furthermore, 25% to 50% of illegal immigrants pay no federal, state or local income taxes at all, and only about 50% of them pay Social Security taxes.
United States citizen

Canyon Country, CA

#2388 Jul 9, 2008
Given these realities it is no surprise that the cost of illegal immigration to taxpayers will exceed the tax revenues illegal immigration generates. Nowhere are these realities more apparent than in those states suffering the largest influx of illegal immigrants; Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and especially California.

Researchers at the Pew Hispanic Center estimate that California has absorbed 25% of the nation's illegal immigrants (estimated to be between 20-38 million). California, therefore, provides an empirical case study of illegal immigration’s effects on public finances. The recurring state budget deficits that California has incurred over the past decade, and with which it is currently struggling, is significantly attributable to the large number of illegal immigrants who reside there.

As with all states, education is California's single largest public expenditure and commands 42% of that state’s $150 billion budget. The State of California's Legislative Analyst's Office reports that of the state's 6.4 million K through 12 public school students, one out of four is not fluent in English. Of that number, 85% are Spanish speaking. Additionally, one out of nine of these students require special education programs.

These children of Spanish speaking foreign immigrants increase California's K-12 enrollment by 21.3%, nearly 1.4 million students. At $11,584 each, which is the state’s 2007-2008 budgeted allocation per student, the cost of educating these students is $15.8 billion. Add in the $1.3 billion for special programs to accommodate non-English speaking students, and the cost increases to $17.1 billion. The state's current budget deficit is projected to be $16 billion.

The other significant public costs directly attributable to illegal immigration are law enforcement, health, and welfare services. In 1999, San Diego County alone spent $50 million dollars on law enforcement involving illegal immigrants. That was 9% of its total law enforcement budget. In Santa Barbara County nearly 18% of births in 2006 were to illegal immigrants and cost that county's taxpayers $4 million dollars. Up to 20% of the inmates in Santa Barbara County jails are illegal immigrants. The county will soon be building a larger jail at a cost of over $100 million.

Such examples of public expenditures attributable to illegal immigration are found in most of California's counties and municipalities. And, because illegal immigrants have extended their range to other parts of the country, jurisdictions across the nation will be incurring these tax expenditures as well.
JumpinBlackTrash

United States

#2390 Jul 9, 2008
venceremos wrote:
<quoted text>
Well at least Sammy wasn't prejudiced he loved White women.
How could a Black Jew "Be " prejudiced?

“ Impulsive, bone in her teeth”

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#2398 Jul 10, 2008
CamSSGirl wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, and by the way, that little green check mark next to this comment? I gave you that this afternoon. You're welcome.
Mission accomplished, girl! Thanks for the check mark. what year is that CAMaro? They don't build them like that anymore. Once upon a time I had a Mustang GT350. Way coool rides.
Ann

Mariposa, CA

#2399 Jul 10, 2008
usasince1680 wrote:
I was living in Santa Barbara, CA on September 11, 2001. Prior to that day, the Mexicans in town proudly displayed a decal on the rear windows of their automobiles. It was a decal of the Calvin cartoon character standing with a stream of urine ending up on the American flag.
After September 11, 2001, those decals were removed. I have never forgotten the significance of those decals and that is the image in my mind when discussing illegal Mexicans. Close your eyes, put this image in your head and you will see what I am talking about. Those decals represent their opinion of our country. The country they have invaded and raped of resources.
Those decals were never removed! They're STILL there and so are the flags. So are the stupid Mexican gang wars between Eastside and Westside.

I was visiting SB after 9-11, having lunch at a local eatery when a little Mexican gangster walked up to a rather large construction worker type white guy sitting at a table quietly eating his lunch. The punk couldn't have been more than 115 lbs soaking wet even with the bandana wrapped tightly around his head and had the freaken -alls to tell this guy that he was sitting at his table. That's when the entertainment peaked. The gentleman, ever so matter of fact said,'Ya? Well I'm setting here now.' and instructed the young man to,'best find another seat elsewhere and quit bugging him or he would hang him up from his bandana and beat him like a piñata.
Ann

Mariposa, CA

#2400 Jul 10, 2008
Mexican-American, the hyphen is a minus sign. Most want to believe that this country belonged to Mexico and are so egotistically wrapped up in the MECHa movement driving their hate towards Whites, which by the way the lies and propaganda theories based totally on hate were born in Santa Barbara by a racist POS Mexican-American. It's the ghetto syndrome with Hispanics and Latinos. Can't be better than the father, more successful, more educated because the father holds such a micro mentality with the macro ego. Easier to hate the Whites and steal from them. But they just don't get it. This attitude, this idealism is what is fueling the fires of deportation.
Ann

Mariposa, CA

#2402 Jul 10, 2008
Today's Mexican culture is saturated with illegal alien uneducated, unskilled, unwanted Mexicans entering our country and have for the last 20 years mixed with their anchor babies are so far removed from our own culture. With the numbers of legal Hispanic/Latinos around 35 million plus the illegal Hispanic/Latinos estimated at 15-20 million, how do they expect to conquer the 295 million US Whities? Although MECHa claims credit to discovering ‘zero’, their leaders and la Raza's preach breeding Whitie out of power in the United States. Now there’s a plan. How long do you suppose that will take especially when we know that by 3rd generation American, most can’t even speak Spanish and have become Americanized.

Ask yourself, whom might be the target base of recruitment for MECHa and la Raza? Hello, it's the anchor babies.
RESPECT America

Collinsville, IL

#2404 Jul 10, 2008
Our politicians are a disgrace and are letting our nation be trashed by the human refuse of Mexican. Unless the good people of this country throw out our current Mexico first politicians, nothing will change. Our passive-receptive politicians are disgusting and make me puke.
buyerbeware

AOL

#2405 Jul 10, 2008
United States citizen wrote:
Among the many controversies involved with the issue of illegal immigration is the debate over whether it is an economic benefit or drain on public finances. The specific question is; do illegal immigrants provide more tax revenues to public treasuries than they receive from them? As with all illegal activities, the covert nature of illegal immigration makes it impossible to measure its impact with absolute accuracy.
Nevertheless, at the request of the U.S. Senate Finance Committee, which sought an answer to the cost/revenue question of illegal immigration, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) reviewed pertinent federal data and 29 reports generated by various state and local governments that had examined the financial impact of illegal immigration on their jurisdictions. In December 2007, the CBO reported the results of its research, concluding that for most state and local governments, tax expenditures for illegal immigrants exceeded tax revenues from them.
Because federal law requires that state and local governments provide education, health care, and law enforcement services to all residents in their jurisdictions, regardless of the residents’ legal status, state and local governments shoulder virtually all the financial burden of illegal immigration. There is some token federal funding, for example education, local governments’ single largest expense, can receive up to 10% in federal funding.
The CBO report confirmed many of the realities of illegal immigration, realities that have become all too familiar to the local governments that have had to endure them. Among these are that illegal immigrants rarely have health insurance and, therefore, rely heavily on emergency health facilities and public hospitals for non-emergency illnesses and other health related problems. The cost of educating the children of immigrants who are not fluent in English increases the cost per student by as much as 40%. For many jurisdictions along the Mexican border the cost of law enforcement activities involving illegal immigrants runs into tens of millions of dollars per year and is a significant diversion of budgeted funds. Because the average household income for illegal immigrants is as much as 74% less than that of legal residents, immigrants pay significantly less in income taxes and sales taxes. Furthermore, 25% to 50% of illegal immigrants pay no federal, state or local income taxes at all, and only about 50% of them pay Social Security taxes.
THIS INFORMATION DEALS JUST WITH ILLEGALS AND NOT LEGAL IMMIGRANTS. NO ONE SHOULD BE OPPOSED TO PEOPLE SEEKING TO COME HERE LEGALLY WHO WANT TO BECOME CITIZENS .

$ 33,848,246,457 wired to Mexico since January 2006
$ 286, 818,682,271 wired to Latin America since 2001
$ 397,464,301,158 cost of social services to illegals since 1998
$14,362,538,041 cost of K12 school to illegals
$ 1,433,647, 133 cost of incarcerations since 2001

21,622,875 illegals in the country
369, 279 incarcerated illegals
683,560 illegal immigrant fugitives
2,034,947 anchor babies since 2002
10,586,173 skilled jobs taken by illegals

http://www.immigrationcounters.com/
CamSSGirl

United States

#2406 Jul 10, 2008
Ed Teach wrote:
<quoted text>
Mission accomplished, girl! Thanks for the check mark. what year is that CAMaro? They don't build them like that anymore. Once upon a time I had a Mustang GT350. Way coool rides.
'69 SS. I finally found my teenaged dream car, only I could afford it this time..lol. Now if I could just replace my other dream machine that was murdered, my life would be complete. Have a good day, Ed.

“Reduce immigration levels”

Since: Dec 06

Kings Mountain, NC

#2407 Jul 10, 2008
False arguments from a soldier
http://falsearguments.net/wordpress/...

The report card
http://grades.betterimmigration.com/index.php...

What illegals are costing FL
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/AmandaCarp...

Mexico is the 5th "filthiest" country in the world. Coming to a neighborhood near you!
http://desertvisions.us/
United States citizen

Canyon Country, CA

#2415 Jul 11, 2008
Beware of co-word "Comprehesive Immigration Reform". This is nothing but, amnesty for illegal immigration. Why should America allow people that don't respect the rule of law be able to gain citizenship. They break the law by crossing our borders, a misdemenor . Then the break another law by using fradulent social security numbers and I.d.s. They break another law by obtaining work here in the U.S.A. Then they are deported by I.C.E. and return because of our porous borders commiting a felony. American are now suppose to believe by giving them citizenship they are now going to be law abiding people. What a joke! History has shown by granting citizenship only increases illegal immigration.

“ Impulsive, bone in her teeth”

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#2417 Jul 11, 2008
CamSSGirl wrote:
<quoted text>'69 SS. I finally found my teenaged dream car, only I could afford it this time..lol. Now if I could just replace my other dream machine that was murdered, my life would be complete. Have a good day, Ed.
I have to ask, murdered? My classic Triumph was crushed by a buick. Does that count? It sucked 'cause I was on it.
Sorry folks I know this is off topic, kinda spam, but not clueless. we're talkin here!

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#2420 Jul 11, 2008
Ed Teach wrote:
<quoted text>
I have to ask, murdered? My classic Triumph was crushed by a buick. Does that count? It sucked 'cause I was on it.
Sorry folks I know this is off topic, kinda spam, but not clueless. we're talkin here!
LOL..no one ever stays on topic here. It spins in a million directions.
Murdered, crashed, all gone. Thankfully not by a Buick, though..lol. The ultimate redneck boy's wet dream, that's what it was. A 1981 turbo Trans Am, NASCAR edition. The seats were worth more than most people's cars. Sadly, it was killed and there's no way to replace it since they didn't make that many of them. Had a 301 turbo engine in it, so it sounded like a jet taking off, and I loved it. See, you never know what you may find in common with people in this place, huh?

“ Impulsive, bone in her teeth”

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#2430 Jul 12, 2008
HoneyC wrote:
<quoted text>LOL..no one ever stays on topic here. It spins in a million directions.
Murdered, crashed, all gone. Thankfully not by a Buick, though..lol. The ultimate redneck boy's wet dream, that's what it was. A 1981 turbo Trans Am, NASCAR edition. The seats were worth more than most people's cars. Sadly, it was killed and there's no way to replace it since they didn't make that many of them. Had a 301 turbo engine in it, so it sounded like a jet taking off, and I loved it. See, you never know what you may find in common with people in this place, huh?
Neat! If there was just some way we could really get in touch. be well

“Reduce immigration levels”

Since: Dec 06

Kings Mountain, NC

#2432 Jul 12, 2008
Another wonderful letter from Norman, OK
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/bio/userl...

Arm yourself with information
http://www.numbersusa.com/content/content/6/3...

Food for thought:
THE NINETEENTH CENTURY: DISEMPOWERING GOD
http://www.newswithviews.com/Stang/alan56.htm
THE ENVIROS AND GREENS WANT CONTROL NOT A HEALTHIER PLANET
http://www.newswithviews.com/Roth/laurie121.h...

Ron Pauls Revolutionary March is today. Do you think MSM will cover it?
http://www.connietalk.com/the_ron_paul_march_...
SAM

Arlington, VA

#2439 Aug 11, 2008

“ Impulsive, bone in her teeth”

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#2442 Aug 19, 2008
Gee, since the fanatical mongrels of terrorism have jumped on this post, nobody cares anymore. get the message fool?
Jonathan Quincy

Washington, DC

#2443 Jul 19, 2013
god of politics and slime wrote:
Mexico would be one big trash can without the US. We don't care about the screwed up little nations around the world, but Mexico should thank its lucky stars for having a border with the US.
America would be broke without the reasonably priced labor and ability of the Mexican, male and female. America is lucky to have Mexico as a neighbor but too dumb to realize it. Until some other group e.g. Muslims, for example, move next door, America will bash the Catholic, workaholic Mexican. Jealousy turned into hatred, pure and simple. Jealous of the individualism, their freedom, and abilities. The Mexican is quite the extraordinary human being. Filled with love and a work ethic that is incomparable.

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