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Hancock win latest in Right Artist, Wrong Year category

There are 33 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Feb 11, 2008, titled Hancock win latest in Right Artist, Wrong Year category. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

With his Grammy Award for album of the year Sunday, Herbie Hancock joins a long list of venerated musicians who have won music's biggest prize decades after releasing their best work.

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Beautiful

Central Islip, NY

#22 Feb 11, 2008
I like what you wrote, I understand.
Indigenous wrote:
Pop music has or always have been twisted. Ever since the Beatles invaded the Americas, pop music has had this false since of artistic creativity. If it were not for the so-called jazz musicians performing Beatles tunes and finding the hidden gold through improvisation, many of these tunes would be hardly remembered. The only reason people are amazed at a talent like Herbie Hancock winning album of the year is because the pop music community is devoid of the knowledge of the inner workings of how music is made. The have limited or no knowledge of the structures of Rhythm, Harmony, and Melody, key and time signatures, composition, instrumental performance. Even the schools of music are not teaching music correctly, many liberties, and shortcuts are taken producing inferior musicians. With the climate of the Nation itself, every last vestige of creativity has been sucked out of the populace. People are not concerned with doing it right anymore, only in how much profit can stolen, made, earned. Herbie Hancock put the correct amount of artistic weight on a product and material that in lesser hands would have been an afterthought, so what, who cares, no big deal. When will this nation fully reward the artist who dares go out on a limb? If not for music and the artists who created it, this nation would have nothing, you would still be listening to polkas, march music and cowboy music. The population knows nothing because the "experts" in the industry is only interested in filling their pocketbooks.
Catherine

South Holland, IL

#23 Feb 11, 2008
The Grammys historically have been worse than even the Oscars when it comes to rewarding quality, and also a vastly more boring show. The reasons so many people watched were Kanye West and Amy Winehouse. They gave great performances. I think they deserve their rewards. Middle of the road stuff like this Hancock work is more typical of the musical behavior that Grammy rewards.

I was pleasantly surprised that Winehouse got her rewards and the self-righteous bores on the topic of her troubles did not prevail. I think Billie Holiday and Judy Garland should be borne in mind in this regard.

I agree about Beyonce and Alicia Keys. Mysteries. Keys' screeching along with Sinatra's singing said it all.
mark

North Chicago, IL

#24 Feb 11, 2008
So Amy Winehouse won some Grammys...big deal. Every generation has a zoned out, drug addled burnout who has her 15 minutes of fame then crashes & burns (see Janis Joplin) or just fades away (see Linda Ronstadt). She's the one for this decade.
Real List

Robbins, IL

#25 Feb 11, 2008
Did Bruce Springsteen have to hand over his grammy to Tommy Tutone? Listen to "Radio Nowhere" and "8675309" and you'll know what I'm talking about.
HerbieHH

Los Angeles, CA

#26 Feb 11, 2008
Yeah, I thought "over the hill" when I read that Herbie had won the Album of the Year Grammy. However, for the next few hours, I sat down and thought about how this man is the actual living embodiment of Charlie Parker, Miles Davis, and John Coltrane (and all of the folks that Bird was influenced by), and then became convinced that this was the right choice. There aren't any other players out there that can say they have inherited the "classic jazz" legacy whom are either alive or current. Herbie is the last of his kind (both Bird and Miles were active players in the 1930's).
HerbieHH

Los Angeles, CA

#27 Feb 11, 2008
oh yeah-there's nothing wrong with "supersize thighs" if the woman looks oh so sexy like Beyonce Knowles. Oh man! I'd take that. Probably too "high maintenance," tho...
Joel

North Hollywood, CA

#28 Feb 11, 2008
Marc, you cannot do what rappers do. Don't kid yourself.
Amirah

United States

#29 Feb 11, 2008
abc777 wrote:
kudos to all the awards winners, yes even amy winehouse, But i just have to say - all you kanye haters need to shut the hell up. He handled his wins and losses a whole lot better than he did in september - recognize that. You all are a buch of racist pricks who pray for the death of rap and the downfall of the black race. Screw you all!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe Kanye acts like a ----y because he DIDN'T have a father in his life?

A MAN doesn't throw tantrums. Even if he HAS gotten better since last fall, he still doesn't know how to comport himself like a MAN.

MANY rappers too often confuse money and stardom with class and unfortunately for them it isn't. They are simply rich and famous but w/o class.

Kanye ought to try and "represent" the black race (but mostly his self and family) better. He is part of the problem instead part of the solution.

If he keeps up his tantrums he will eventually
1. catch a case or 2. become persona non gratis in many places just like Snoop Dogg.
Ed from Macomb

Louisville, KY

#30 Feb 11, 2008
As another person already said, rap is not music- it's an art form akin to (fifty years ago) Jack Kerouac reciting his poetry to the accompaniment of jazz riffs. Kerouac's albums weren't considered music and rap should not be considered music- it's the aforementioned art form done in a much faster tempo.
The Grammy awards, as Kot says, often are lifetime achievement awards. Even when not, they generally reflect the popular fad of the moment. Case in point: Milli Vanilli.
If you want to find the best music each year, find a critics poll. The Grammys are a popularity contest.
Gill's album was the best musical achievement of the nominees.
Jono

Wollongong, Australia

#31 Feb 11, 2008
Let's not also forget 1997 when Bob Dylan beat out Radiohead for OK Computer.
Cannonball

Birmingham, UK

#32 Feb 12, 2008
River is not Herbie's best work you could argue what his best work is but it is a fine album all the same. His work has been sampled, stolen by by Rappers for years incapable of making anything original. As a fan his music is certainly not 30 years out of date if anything he is ahead of the game.
skvira

Chicopee, MA

#33 Feb 12, 2008
I can see why he left Sonia Kitchell off.If you like a soprano yodeler that is way over rated because she's young then I guess you'll like the bonus tracks
lostlo

San Jose, CA

#34 Feb 12, 2008
I guess I'm the only person here who likes jazz and rap. Keep in mind that Kanye no more represents "rap" than the Blues Brothers represent blues. There's a lot more diversity to hip-hop than any of you probably realize.
Also, I find mark's comment hilarious that Janis Joplin had 15 minutes of fame. Give me a break. She's a legend and her death, or "crash and burn" as you so thoughtfully put it, only adds to that legend.

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