Hancock win latest in Right Artist, W...

Hancock win latest in Right Artist, Wrong Year category

There are 33 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Feb 11, 2008, titled Hancock win latest in Right Artist, Wrong Year category. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

With his Grammy Award for album of the year Sunday, Herbie Hancock joins a long list of venerated musicians who have won music's biggest prize decades after releasing their best work.

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#1 Feb 11, 2008
They didn't give it to West because they really don't like his 'I should win' attitude. They didn't want to give it to a troubled Amy. So they give it to Herbie whom I like but c'mon. If anything Herbie should have won long ago. This is why I don't like awards shows. I think they are so phoney.

Thornton, PA

#2 Feb 11, 2008
Pop music has or always have been twisted. Ever since the Beatles invaded the Americas, pop music has had this false since of artistic creativity. If it were not for the so-called jazz musicians performing Beatles tunes and finding the hidden gold through improvisation, many of these tunes would be hardly remembered. The only reason people are amazed at a talent like Herbie Hancock winning album of the year is because the pop music community is devoid of the knowledge of the inner workings of how music is made. The have limited or no knowledge of the structures of Rhythm, Harmony, and Melody, key and time signatures, composition, instrumental performance. Even the schools of music are not teaching music correctly, many liberties, and shortcuts are taken producing inferior musicians. With the climate of the Nation itself, every last vestige of creativity has been sucked out of the populace. People are not concerned with doing it right anymore, only in how much profit can stolen, made, earned. Herbie Hancock put the correct amount of artistic weight on a product and material that in lesser hands would have been an afterthought, so what, who cares, no big deal. When will this nation fully reward the artist who dares go out on a limb? If not for music and the artists who created it, this nation would have nothing, you would still be listening to polkas, march music and cowboy music. The population knows nothing because the "experts" in the industry is only interested in filling their pocketbooks.

Lake Worth, FL

#3 Feb 11, 2008
Right on, Greg. Let's not forget, Bruce Springsteen's "Magic," his best work in years, was also not in the running for Album of the Year. It, too, encapsulated the year in music far more than Herbie Hancock's release.

United States

#4 Feb 11, 2008
Winehouse has been elevated due her music not her antics. Otherwise, Britney Spears would be getting 5 Grammys not Amy.
John Peter Merrick

Clackamas, OR

#5 Feb 11, 2008
As a guy who has not heard that much music in jazz thou I’ve interned for a jazz station one of only in Oregon while going to radio school. I have a great amount of respect these artists have endured in their art and storytelling. I am very happy with the Grammy’s Association in this championed voice. Did you see how hard that artist who it is prayed he would be the winner like a hip-hop dude? Industry respect takes time and you will get your time... When you get off the blog, get promoted to radio or television to web-TV, and are a fuller success in the business that made many genres of music…

Your operatic grasshopper
JPMorgen: John Peter Merrick from Portland Oregon

Merced, CA

#6 Feb 11, 2008
F West! he's a big mouthed idiot that runs all over like a baby if he doesnt win something. the next time he goes up a stage to complain about not winning, they should have the cops drag his sorry ass off. we dont owe him a damn thing!

United States

#7 Feb 11, 2008
Anyone can certainly empathize with Kanye and the unexpected death of his mom. Still, did she raise him to be a spoiled brat?

During the awards show yesterday he started to whine because his speech lasted too long and the producers (as they do for everyone) began to play music signalling for him to cut it. Instead of acting like a grown up with some home training, he began to whine " are y'all REALLY gonna play the music while I'm still talking?" well..yes Kanye the sun doesn't revolve around YOU.

As a grown up man, you are expected (required) to conduct yourself like anyone else in a civilized society.

Glad he didn't win album of the year!
Who Cares

Oak Park, IL

#8 Feb 11, 2008
Who cares? Winning an award like a Grammy or an Oscar is just based on opinion. What standards are used to determine best album or best movie? None. Why do people care?

United States

#9 Feb 11, 2008
Amirah wrote:
Anyone can certainly empathize with Kanye and the unexpected death of his mom. Still, did she raise him to be a spoiled brat?
During the awards show yesterday he started to whine because his speech lasted too long and the producers (as they do for everyone) began to play music signalling for him to cut it. Instead of acting like a grown up with some home training, he began to whine " are y'all REALLY gonna play the music while I'm still talking?" well..yes Kanye the sun doesn't revolve around YOU.
As a grown up man, you are expected (required) to conduct yourself like anyone else in a civilized society.
Glad he didn't win album of the year!
EXACTLY what I thought when I saw this.

“"Ridding the world of dummies"”

Since: Jan 08

"The District"

#10 Feb 11, 2008

San Diego, CA

#11 Feb 11, 2008
I don't know why I never hear this truism anymore: Rap isn't music, it's just talking fast. Anyone can do that. Kanye and all these other so-called "artists" don't belong on an awards show with REAL musicians. When is this dumb fad (rap, hip hop) going to end? I'm not a huge jazz fan but I jumped to my feet when Herbie won, simply because all the other nominees were so undeserving.
Am I the only one to notice how boring Amy Winehouse's music is? She has a weird (but not good) voice and the world's stupidest haircut. Amy should get some grooming lessons from Kate and Cindy, who really know how to wear a bouffant. Her performance on the show was tentative and lame.
I'm just getting sick of current music. It bugs me that children's music (rap and metal) has taken over and the truly great artists of the near-past have been left behind. If you REALLY want to hear great music, listen to Neil Young, Alice Cooper, Vanilla Fudge, Steely Dan (70's work only), Uriah Heep, The B52's, The Cars, Shonen Knife, and Dada. Every one of these great bands are still together and touring (except The Cars, since their best lead singer died a few years ago) and can still be enjoyed. They are MUCH better than every single Grammy nominee.
Oh, and Alicia Keys is borrrrrinnnggg too. Why does that average performer get to perform 2 songs on the show?
Oh, and I think Beyonce Knowles is extremely overrated and arrogant. I've heard her brag about how talented she thinks she is.
But it was great seeing John Fogerty and I appreciate the director of the show cutting to his reaction right after that not-so-great version of his song, "Proud Mary". I'm surprised he wasn't laughing at Tina Turner's hideous face-lift or Knowles' ineptness. John, Ringo, John Paul Jones, and Little Richard were the only truly talented people that even showed up at the Grammies. It deserved to have a lowwww Neilson rating. Maybe now that they've reached 50 years, it's time for the Grammies to retire. I think Jerry Lee Lewis should retire too. He hasn't had a hit in 53 years!

Since: Sep 07

Chicago, IL

#12 Feb 11, 2008
I totally agree with everyone else about Kanye West. I'm sorry his mother died-- I'd be beside myself with grief if the same thing happened to my mom-- but he's been a whiny, self-centered brat for much longer than that. Muhammed Ali could say "I AM THE GREATEST" because, quite frankly, he was the greatest at the time. Kanye West? Not so much. I don't see anything particularly amazing about his work, nor do I think he's this great "next big thing" that everyone has made him out to be. His tirades only add to my disdain for him. Enough already. I'm GLAD he lost the Album of the Year. I'm GLAD he sat there pouting like he knew he was going to lose again. He deserves to pout.

As for Amy Winehouse, I'm glad she won Record of the Year. I'm glad she got herself put together enough to do the amazing performances she did. And I think she's 1,000 times more talented than Kanye West will ever be. I'm hoping these wins will hopefully impress upon her that she needs to continue on the road she's on-- getting better and staying healthy.

Finally, Herbie Hancock's win may have been a career recognition, and that's fine. I don't see why we have to devalue every time this award is handed out because it "represents" something else. So what if it does? I think the awards that were given overall were a testament to the wide range of talents out there today. The Album of the Year award has been a symbolic award for years now -- Natalie Cole, Tony Bennett, Bonnie Raitt... were those their best works? Maybe, maybe not-- but they were certainly deserved and probably long overdue. So let that award be what it is and let the rest of the awards be what they are.

Besides, if you think you can do better, start your own awards show, and see how easy it is to decide who gets what.

Plymouth, MI

#13 Feb 11, 2008
I enjoyed some of the perfomances but the awards themselves are useless. Kanye West has absolutely nothing on someone like Madlib. Now that guy is a musical genius.
Another thing I dislike about the Grammys is that best new artist is defined as someone who sells 500,000 albums for the first time. So we get someone like Feist being nominated (though we know she had no chance in hell of winning) even though "The Reminder" was her fourth album. Not too mention she was already successful in Broken Social Scene.
Michael H

Pompano Beach, FL

#14 Feb 11, 2008
The Grammys used to be about music. There isn't much of that any more. There was a time when an artist was judged by their work and not the way the lived their lives. And I suppose the more outrageous a life lived, the mopre popular they become. Winehouse, West and the rest should be able to live fairly uncomplicated lives. None are burdened by the weight of musical talent.

Antelope, CA

#15 Feb 11, 2008
kudos to all the awards winners, yes even amy winehouse, But i just have to say - all you kanye haters need to shut the hell up. He handled his wins and losses a whole lot better than he did in september - recognize that. You all are a buch of racist pricks who pray for the death of rap and the downfall of the black race. Screw you all!!!!!!!!!!

New Orleans, LA

#16 Feb 11, 2008
another piece by the drive-by media. The academy made the right choice in Hancock this year. This award has nothing to do with popularity, impact, or safety of the choice; only the quality of this song collection relative to the other nominees. Anything Hancock produces will always have greater musicality over anything produced by West, Winehouse, Foo Fighters, and Gill. Herbie Hancock is a legend, but the academy judged and awarded "River" on its own merits.

Dravosburg, PA

#17 Feb 11, 2008
herbie hancock rules in this or any other year. and just because the media makes a big deal out of the grammys doesn't mean it's a big deal to musicians. the good ones don't need awards for validation. freedom of expression in the field they love...that's validation enough for any true artist. stop whining and get busy.

San Diego, CA

#18 Feb 11, 2008
I was upset that Brave Combo didn't win Best Polka album. Perhaps competing against Bubba Hernandez split the vote.
roy scheider jr

Downers Grove, IL

#20 Feb 11, 2008
Kot got it right. Hancock was an innovator...30 years ago. Same for his subject, Joni Mitchell, for that matter

With the Grammys, often like the Oscars, artists both win and lose for the wrong reasons.

And by the way, Winehouse's (nor anyone else's) public drunkeness/behavior etc. has absolutely nothing to with, nor should be a consideration, when awarding talent or innovation. So there.

Central Islip, NY

#21 Feb 11, 2008
I don't know if I like music too much or if I don't like it as much as I think I so.  Beyonce is beautiful, I find it annoying that she keeps making herself  more beautiful.  Did not like her supersize thighs. Did not like the song that Tina Turner chose to sing "What's Love got to do with it". I turned the TV off.

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