Is Hollywood's Rape Culture Like a Ga...

Is Hollywood's Rape Culture Like a Gay Bar?

There are 35 comments on the Advocate story from Oct 17, 2017, titled Is Hollywood's Rape Culture Like a Gay Bar?. In it, Advocate reports that:

Such descriptors may apply to Hollywood, as more and more allegations of sexual abuse against Harvey Weinstein and other power players surface. But, according to an out columnist at USA Today , they may also apply to a gay bar - and be symptomatic of a problem in gay culture more broadly.

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Eugene

Los Angeles, CA

#1 Oct 17, 2017
Acceptance of the LGBT lifestyle and and the sexual deviance, rape and pedohilia that goes along with it has definitely fueled the fire of sexual perversion we are beginning to see in the heterosexual world.
Love is the Answer

New York, NY

#2 Oct 17, 2017
Eugene wrote:
Acceptance of the LGBT lifestyle and and the sexual deviance, rape and pedohilia that goes along with it has definitely fueled the fire of sexual perversion we are beginning to see in the heterosexual world.
Don't hang Harvey Weinstein's foibles on LGBT people
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He didn't ask our permission
Warren

Matawan, NJ

#3 Oct 17, 2017
According to an out columnist at USA Today:

"Take a trip with me. Imagine being gay, or queer, at a club, or a bar, with the lights turned down, the fog machines blowing. Itís around midnight. People are drunk or getting there. The groping starts. Shirts come off. Hands trace down backs and starts cupping butt cheeks.

Rarely is consent obtained or given beforehand. Occasionally crotches are groped. Occasionally quite aggressively. Some people let it happen. Some welcome it. Sometimes a joke is uttered by one of the parties:ďHaha, I canít help myself.Ē

But almost never are there consequences for this. There are no fights. No complaints to bouncers or a security guard. I have never seen anyone get kicked out of a bar for being too handsy. The same people are there, the next week, testing boundaries, stepping up the ladder of predatory behavior."

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What a sick, disgusting lifestyle. No wonder there is so much disease.

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Frankie Rizzo

Los Gatos, CA

#4 Oct 17, 2017
Hollywood's rape culture is what happens when liberals have power.
Warren

Matawan, NJ

#5 Oct 17, 2017
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
Hollywood's rape culture is what happens when liberals have power.
And gays.
Evilgelicalling

Philadelphia, PA

#6 Oct 17, 2017
"There are no fights. No complaints to bouncers or a security guard. I have never seen anyone get kicked out of a bar for being too handsy. The same people are there, the next week, testing boundaries, stepping up the ladder of predatory behavior."

Right, there's no complaints because the people getting groped are there on the dance floor willingly, knowing what to expect. This is more hysteria. If they objected to the frankly, openly sexualized space then they could and should leave or tell a person to stop any unwanted physical contact or start a campaign to have a non contact area of the dance floor or bar or sex club.

These are further not subordinates in a workplace who think they're going to a script consultation. We have no indication of any power imbalance between the people doing the touching (which is about everyone) and those being touched against their will on the dance floor (which is about no one.)

It has nothing to do with Weinstein's alleged behaviors. "A columnist at 'USA Today,'" huh? Journalists are the stupidest professional class. It's astonishing.
Evilgelicalling

Philadelphia, PA

#7 Oct 17, 2017
The "rape culture" is overwhelmingly females being incested and violently raped, and apart from rape, specifically, also being sexually harassed on the street and in the workplace.
Hautboy

New York, NY

#8 Oct 17, 2017
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
Hollywood's rape culture is what happens when liberals have power.
You don't like culture?
Wondering

Tyngsboro, MA

#9 Oct 17, 2017
Evilgelicalling wrote:
The "rape culture" is overwhelmingly females being incested and violently raped, and apart from rape, specifically, also being sexually harassed on the street and in the workplace.
That's false. According the the HRC :

44 percent of lesbians and 61 percent of bisexual women experience rape, physical violence, or stalking by an intimate partner, compared to 35 percent of heterosexual women

26 percent of gay men and 37 percent of bisexual men experience rape, physical violence, or stalking by an intimate partner, compared to 29 percent of heterosexual men

46 percent of bisexual women have been raped, compared to 17 percent of heterosexual women and 13 percent of lesbians

22 percent of bisexual women have been raped by an intimate partner, compared to 9 percent of heterosexual women

40 percent of gay men and 47 percent of bisexual men have experienced sexual violence other than rape, compared to 21 percent of heterosexual men
Hautboy

New York, NY

#10 Oct 17, 2017
Warren wrote:
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And gays.
No hon
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You can't rape a willing person who screams 'don't stop now'
Warren

Matawan, NJ

#11 Oct 17, 2017
Wondering wrote:
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That's false. According the the HRC :

44 percent of lesbians and 61 percent of bisexual women experience rape, physical violence, or stalking by an intimate partner, compared to 35 percent of heterosexual women

26 percent of gay men and 37 percent of bisexual men experience rape, physical violence, or stalking by an intimate partner, compared to 29 percent of heterosexual men

46 percent of bisexual women have been raped, compared to 17 percent of heterosexual women and 13 percent of lesbians

22 percent of bisexual women have been raped by an intimate partner, compared to 9 percent of heterosexual women

40 percent of gay men and 47 percent of bisexual men have experienced sexual violence other than rape, compared to 21 percent of heterosexual men
Thanks for posting those facts. Facts don't lie.
Warren

Matawan, NJ

#12 Oct 17, 2017
Wondering wrote:
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That's false. According the the HRC :

44 percent of lesbians and 61 percent of bisexual women experience rape, physical violence, or stalking by an intimate partner, compared to 35 percent of heterosexual women

26 percent of gay men and 37 percent of bisexual men experience rape, physical violence, or stalking by an intimate partner, compared to 29 percent of heterosexual men

46 percent of bisexual women have been raped, compared to 17 percent of heterosexual women and 13 percent of lesbians

22 percent of bisexual women have been raped by an intimate partner, compared to 9 percent of heterosexual women

40 percent of gay men and 47 percent of bisexual men have experienced sexual violence other than rape, compared to 21 percent of heterosexual men
And actually I am willing to bet those numbers are a lot higher than that due to the fact that many LGBTs never report or admit to being raped as it's so common place and accepted as part of the lifestyle.
Evilgelicalling

Philadelphia, PA

#13 Oct 17, 2017
Wondering wrote:
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That's false. According the the HRC :

44 percent of lesbians and 61 percent of bisexual women experience rape, physical violence, or stalking by an intimate partner,
I wasn't speaking about just intimate partners, you stupid, lying, sexually ill bigot.

I was speaking of the overall universe of sexual abuse, most of which takes place right within the extended nuclear family against female children, but I was also including violent rapes by strangers.

Certainly there is also domestic partner violence. And the only reason you went _only_ to that instance of sexual violence is so you could closet casedly make your homophobic point.
Warren

Matawan, NJ

#14 Oct 17, 2017
Evilgelicalling wrote:
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I wasn't speaking about just intimate partners, you stupid, lying, sexually ill bigot.
He supplied facts to win the argument so in turn you get mad and resort to name calling. How typical of you.
Frankie Rizzo

Los Gatos, CA

#15 Oct 17, 2017
Hautboy wrote:
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You don't like culture?
I don't like the leftists' rape culture. Hollywood is beginning to experience the same thing as the NFL - loss of fans, and for very good reasons.
Frankie Rizzo

Los Gatos, CA

#16 Oct 17, 2017
Evilgelicalling wrote:
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I wasn't speaking about just intimate partners, you stupid, lying, sexually ill bigot.

I was speaking of the overall universe of sexual abuse, most of which takes place right within the extended nuclear family against female children, but I was also including violent rapes by strangers.

Certainly there is also domestic partner violence. And the only reason you went _only_ to that instance of sexual violence is so you could closet casedly make your homophobic point.
If someone is a "closet case" he's gay by definition. I will never understand why you consider that an insult.

And your insistence that 95% of the population is gay, in the closet, and in reparative therapy is absurd.
Frankie Rizzo

Los Gatos, CA

#17 Oct 17, 2017
Warren wrote:
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He supplied facts to win the argument so in turn you get mad and resort to name calling. How typical of you.
Yes. That is the Philly Phreak's M.O. And he's gay so he is immune to TOS.
Evilgelicalling

Philadelphia, PA

#18 Oct 17, 2017
Warren wrote:
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He supplied facts
Toe tapper, the urinator in rage changed the argument from one thing to another.

He disgusted me long before he did that in this thread.
Evilgelicalling

Philadelphia, PA

#19 Oct 17, 2017
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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If someone is a "closet case" he's gay by definition
We always need to check in with the homophobic closet cases themselves on that question.
Frankie Rizzo

Los Gatos, CA

#20 Oct 17, 2017
Evilgelicalling wrote:
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We always need to check in with the homophobic closet cases themselves on that question.
According to you that means everyone who is not out. It means 96% of the population is in the closet and in reparative therapy. That's not credible Philly. Get a grip.

So according to you everyone is gay. That's just not credible.

Don't you have a job? Obama plan is over.

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