Van Halen, R.E.M. Head Into Rock Hall

Van Halen, R.E.M. Head Into Rock Hall

There are 5 comments on the Newsday story from Mar 12, 2007, titled Van Halen, R.E.M. Head Into Rock Hall. In it, Newsday reports that:

Grandmaster Flash brings the turntables as hip-hop's first entrant into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame on Monday.

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Diamond J

New York, NY

#1 Mar 12, 2007
Get better, Eddie.
Until then, let's have a laugh.
Bill Heyer

Toms River, NJ

#2 Mar 13, 2007
Isn't THIS a sad state of affairs: At last night's gala Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony, at the Waldorf Hotel, ONLY two (former) members of Van Halen showed up to accept the honor:
Sammy Hagar, and the recently booted-out bass player. Eddie's in rehab, and David Lee Roth refused to appear because he was denied a request to perform his signature tune, "Jump.
Crocka Chit

Brooklyn, NY

#3 Mar 14, 2007
According to sources knowledgeable about the mysterious ways of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation, British Invasion group The Dave Clark Five and not Grandmaster Flash finished fifth in the final voting of the nominating committee and should have been inducted on Monday night.
According to sources, Rolling Stone publisher Jann Wenner, who recently appointed himself chairman of the Foundation after the death of Ahmet Ertegun, ignored the final voting and chose Grandmaster Flash over the DC5 for this year's ceremony.
"Jann went back to a previous ballot instead of taking the final vote as the last word," my source insisted. "He used a technicality about the day votes were due in. In reality, The Dave Clark Five got six more votes than Grandmaster Flash. But he felt we couldn't go another year without a rap act."
R.E.M., Van Halen, The Ronettes and Patti Smith were the top four vote-getters, with Grandmaster Flash finishing fifth when the votes were counted on the first date ballots were due in to the Rock Hall office. But when all the ballots were counted a few days later, the DC5 had pulled ahead. Wenner decided to ignore that and stick with the earlier tally.
"We begged Jann to allow all six acts to be inducted. But he insisted that he couldn't because there wouldn't be enough time," my source said. "He wanted to have Aretha Franklin come and perform in memory of Ahmet Ertegun."
The Ertegun tribute, while very nice, was deemed unnecessary by members of the main committee because the Atlantic Records co-founder will be memorialized in New York on April 17.
"But Jann wanted to do his own tribute. It was insane, especially since he took over Ahmet's position on the board before Ahmet even had a memorial. Jann simply sent papers around informing everyone that he was now the chairman," my source said.
The Dave Clark Five ballot tampering, however, stings the most. The group, part of the British Invasion of the '60s, should have been inducted long ago for their hits like "Glad All Over," "Bits & Pieces" and "Catch Me If You Can." Making them wait has turned out to be a huge mistake, as their fortunes have not been great.
In December 2006, sax player Denis Payton succumbed to cancer at age 63. Lead singer Mike Smith has been paralyzed since 2003 after falling off a ladder at his home in Spain.
In August 2005 a terrific fundraising effort for Smith at B.B. King's in New York was supposed to be the prelude to finally recognizing the group that had several memorable hits in the mid-60s. Wenner's cruel axing of them from the show and the Hall of Fame should be painful to many who are intimately involved with the Hall like Paul Shaffer, who runs the Hall of Fame band and produced and emceed the Smith tribute.
So what happened here? My sources also say that Wenner's motivation may have sprung from a controversial speech that was delivered by new administrative head Joel Peresman to the nominating committee last winter.
"He stood up there and told us that we should vote for who we thought would be most commercial, and who be best on the TV show," a source said. "It was outrageous. Some people tried to stop him and asked him to leave, but he wouldn't. He said,'I'm not leaving.'
Bill Heyer

Lakewood, NJ

#4 Mar 14, 2007
Crocka Chit wrote:
According to sources knowledgeable about the mysterious ways of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation, British Invasion group The Dave Clark Five and not Grandmaster Flash finished fifth in the final voting of the nominating committee and should have been inducted on Monday night.
According to sources, Rolling Stone publisher Jann Wenner, who recently appointed himself chairman of the Foundation after the death of Ahmet Ertegun, ignored the final voting and chose Grandmaster Flash over the DC5 for this year's ceremony.
"Jann went back to a previous ballot instead of taking the final vote as the last word," my source insisted. "He used a technicality about the day votes were due in. In reality, The Dave Clark Five got six more votes than Grandmaster Flash. But he felt we couldn't go another year without a rap act."
R.E.M., Van Halen, The Ronettes and Patti Smith were the top four vote-getters, with Grandmaster Flash finishing fifth when the votes were counted on the first date ballots were due in to the Rock Hall office. But when all the ballots were counted a few days later, the DC5 had pulled ahead. Wenner decided to ignore that and stick with the earlier tally.
"We begged Jann to allow all six acts to be inducted. But he insisted that he couldn't because there wouldn't be enough time," my source said. "He wanted to have Aretha Franklin come and perform in memory of Ahmet Ertegun."
The Ertegun tribute, while very nice, was deemed unnecessary by members of the main committee because the Atlantic Records co-founder will be memorialized in New York on April 17.
"But Jann wanted to do his own tribute. It was insane, especially since he took over Ahmet's position on the board before Ahmet even had a memorial. Jann simply sent papers around informing everyone that he was now the chairman," my source said.
The Dave Clark Five ballot tampering, however, stings the most. The group, part of the British Invasion of the '60s, should have been inducted long ago for their hits like "Glad All Over," "Bits & Pieces" and "Catch Me If You Can." Making them wait has turned out to be a huge mistake, as their fortunes have not been great.
In December 2006, sax player Denis Payton succumbed to cancer at age 63. Lead singer Mike Smith has been paralyzed since 2003 after falling off a ladder at his home in Spain.
In August 2005 a terrific fundraising effort for Smith at B.B. King's in New York was supposed to be the prelude to finally recognizing the group that had several memorable hits in the mid-60s. Wenner's cruel axing of them from the show and the Hall of Fame should be painful to many who are intimately involved with the Hall like Paul Shaffer, who runs the Hall of Fame band and produced and emceed the Smith tribute.
So what happened here? My sources also say that Wenner's motivation may have sprung from a controversial speech that was delivered by new administrative head Joel Peresman to the nominating committee last winter.
"He stood up there and told us that we should vote for who we thought would be most commercial, and who be best on the TV show," a source said. "It was outrageous. Some people tried to stop him and asked him to leave, but he wouldn't. He said,'I'm not leaving.'
Boy, YOU wrote a book, didn't you? I read your comment, in its entirety. One problem: We don't KNOW "who" your source is. Phil Spector? Hardly, he's under house arrest in L.A. I'm sorry, I don't have sympathy for your point of view: to me, the DC5 are NOT a Hall of Fame band. I'm 57, I saw them perform on Ed Sullivan, many times, but to me they simply were carried along by The Beatles wave; the
so-called "British Invasion." The Rolling Stones were the same way, but they soon carved their own niche. Sorry the DC5 members have fallen on hard times, but then again, half The Beatles are dead, too. You sound like you have a personal axe to grind; are you Dave Clark?
Bill Heyer

Lakewood, NJ

#5 Mar 14, 2007
This is for Crocka Chit, from West Babylon, New York. I responded twice to your comment, but they limit you to a certain amount of characters, and YOUR essay took up MOST of 'em. First, of all, I read your comments in their entirety. My problem is (I sound like Lt. Columbo) I don't know WHO your source is. Phil Spector? A janitor? As an aging "Baby Boomer," I remember the DC5 well; I purchased MANY of their 45's (remember them?) I saw the DC5 perform on Ed Sullivan, many times. Sorry, they're NOT Hall of Fame to me. To me, they simply rode The Beatles coattails into the U.S. The Stones did, too, but they carved out they're own niche, over time. Sorry the DC5 members are not thriving, but then again half The Beatles and half The Who are dead. You sound like YOU have a personal axe to grind; ARE you Dave Clark?

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