13th Violet Festival set for July 28-31

13th Violet Festival set for July 28-31

There are 38 comments on the ThisWeek Community Newspapers story from Jul 7, 2010, titled 13th Violet Festival set for July 28-31. In it, ThisWeek Community Newspapers reports that:

Organizers of Pickerington's entertainment event of the year are hoping for large crowds and clear skies for the 13th annual Violet Festival July 28-31. Per usual, there will be four days of music, food, amusement rides and more when the Violet Festival takes over Olde Pickerington later this month.

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VF Volunteer

Blacklick, OH

#21 Jul 9, 2010
Marvin wrote:
The problem with the Violet Festival for years has been its hard headed commercial promotion not a quality or life issue or a promotion of the local community. It started out promoting the home builders and the insurance companies that benefit from these new homes. Then there are the politicians that want to get some face time.
To attract the families and others that might be interested in buying a home they provide amusement rides so the parents bring their kids. Then these advertisers want to complain that putting on this exposition costs money. A few years ago they resorted to selling beer to raise the needed cash and they still can’t make enough money to break even.(they say)
Clearly they are incompetent and their common goals are incompatible with the people that attend. They bring in these bands that cause them even more headaches with fights and drugs and then complain about paying for the police.
Oh but we are good guys we volunteered. That is a bunch of garbage because that entire group of so called volunteers is self serving for their individual cause or product. So I am not buying that they want to really serve the community. They see a commercial value to their business or product. Just count the parade entries and who is in the parade. Are these entries from the community or are they commercial interests?
I hear they are having the beer garden on the city owned parking lot just north of the Tiger Stadium between Park Ally and Columbus Street. I believe someone at the city must provide them with a permit. I think the city council needs to rethink this beer garden. For what they charge for the beer and the material costs to provide the beer it doesn’t take any effort to make a ton of money selling beer from a keg. Remember all volunteer work force.
They charge for every stand or table that is set up and for the VIPs that move to the front of the line. Yet this festival seems to come out EVERY Year in the RED. Now here is a group that uses public property and accepts public money from the City Council yet they will not open their books to the public to get some idea of where the money the city has dumped into this failing effort for years is going. I think it is past due for a complete audit of the Violet Festival and account for the public funds they have spent over the last 13 years.
Marvin, please send your contact information to [email protected]

I will see that it gets to me and I will be happy to sit down with you and review every dollar that has come into the festival and how is has been spent.

The festival is not in the RED. We lost money last year - it poured down rain all of Wednesday and most of Saturday - but, we still had money to start the year. After 13 years - some profitable, some not - we still had a few bucks!

It is obvious from you comments that you have not spent anytime investigating your claims yet, you accuse this organization of stealing money from the public. Our books are completely open (and have to be by law!) and I will be more than happy to share the truth with you.
VF Supporter

Westerville, OH

#22 Jul 9, 2010
Double standards wrote:
Isn't the festival in Victory Park? Beer in the Park????????? I thought this was already discussed with the Jazz and Ribs folks and they were told NO. Who's signing off on that?
Just wanted to clarify that alcohol is not being sold on school grounds or in Victory Park.
VF Supporter

Westerville, OH

#23 Jul 9, 2010
Just wanted to clarify that alcohol is not being sold on school grounds or in Victory Park.
Double standards wrote:
Isn't the festival in Victory Park? Beer in the Park????????? I thought this was already discussed with the Jazz and Ribs folks and they were told NO. Who's signing off on that?
VF Supporter

Westerville, OH

#24 Jul 9, 2010
Just wanted to clarify that alcohol is not being sold on school grounds or in Victory Park.
Marvin

Bellefontaine, OH

#25 Jul 9, 2010
Let get this straight.“You are not in the red but you lost money last year”. I believe losing money is operating in the red. Now I only stopped by last year to grab a sandwich with my wife. I do not remember it raining. I do know from my kids that trouble has been on going down there for a while. I have forbid them to attend.
In an earlier post I read a threat that the Violet Festival might consider moving its festival to another town or venue. Violet Festival supporters and Volunteers if that is true is it about dedication to the community or hocking your wares? Exactly where do you move a festival named Violet? Might be a hard fit for say Reynoldsburg (tomato) or Obetz (Zucchini)
I understand that you all claim to be promoting the community yet you also say you drew over 40,000 people two years ago or when ever. Now let’s suppose they all either bought a beer or maybe some food. I believe most of the vendors selling food are from out of town. Where do their profits go? Then there is the beer garden. Why do you need a sponsor? It seems that most organizations would plan to invest in beer cups and a few napkins when they had a product that returned such a high percentage. What exactly are this sponsors paying for?
Obviously city council needs to keep better tabs on this group. I will say that I spoke with a council member last year and they told me that they have never seen your books. It seems logical that if the city is paying $5,000 in taxpayer funds to the festival then the festival should volunteer showing their books to the city in exchange for getting the money. So if you could tell us approximately what day you opened your books to the city then I can request the public record to verify your claims.
So what I am hearing is that you can’t make it on the beer and food vendors along. Because the profits you receive from these money makers you spend it all on the entertainment. Frankly I haven’t heard of any of the bands you are advertizing. My kids seem to think they recognize the names but these bands are not what I would consider “A” list or even “B” list. What you folks at the Violet Festival fail to realize is that you are placing all of your eggs in one basket and that basket is subject to fail if it rains. If it is true that you are mostly business people then why do you only go into this festival with plan “A”?
Wilber

Bellefontaine, OH

#26 Jul 10, 2010
The movers and shakers of the Violet Festival are having handicap parking at the Grange Hall. I would bet that none of them have sit in a wheel chair at the Grange and rode across Lockville Road and then tried to go down the hill into Victory Park. There is no way this is ADA compliant.
VF Volunteer

Dublin, OH

#27 Jul 11, 2010
Marvin, one-by-one...
The Violet Festival started the year with money in the bank. We ended the year with money in the bank. Our balance sheet shows our 'equity' in the black. Losing money for one year doesn't mean 'operating in the red.' How can we have money, if we lose money ‘EVERY year’– your words, not mine -? I have been a part of the committee for 10 years and I don’t recall ever having a negative checkbook balance. You can’t lose money for 13 years and have money in the bank.
Just because it didn't rain the five minutes that you were there doesn't mean it didn't rain. I will be happy to look up the weather records for last year but, I'd guess we had 2" of rain on Wednesday night alone and washed out the evening. Saturday night's rain came at about 4 to 6 pm. That's a critical time as people are making decisions about their evening. The crowds were definitely impacted.
Trouble? There have been some 'incidents'. Very few. There are 2 to 8 city police officers on the grounds at anytime - which the festival pays for, by the way. They have done an OUTSTANDING job of making sure the festival is peaceful and safe.
I did not look up the previous post regarding moving the festival but, I challenge you to prove to me that anyone on the committee now or in the past has ever considered moving the Violet Festival out of the community. You are right on one point - where the heck would I take the VIOLET festival? The committee has, in fact, considered moving the festival to a larger location but, never beyond Pickerington/Violet Twp.
Many of the food vendors are from out of town but, I believe nearly half were local businesses. We do not receive many applications for food vendors from local individuals and most of the restaurants in town don’t have the equipment or staff to man the grounds for four days, so they don’t apply. All of the food supplied for the VIP tent last year was from local restaurants and caterers.
Other organizations derive revenue from the Violet Festival, too. The Boy Scouts, North and Central Football Boosters, and several other charities have received donations from the Violet Festival for their assistance in trash pickup, manning the parking lots, etc. These donations have totaled in the thousands of dollars each of the past few years.
Why do we need sponsors? It takes money to put this event on. There are costs for the entertainment, tents, tables, chairs, fencing, port-a-johns, water, electricity, police and security, advertising, etc., etc. The city and township’s contribution this year, as welcomed as it is, makes up less than 5% of the total needed. If these businesses it would never happen – or you’d be paying a lot more that $2 to get in! I would be extremely interested in looking at any sizable festival that doesn’t have sponsors AND charge an entrance fee.
The city councilman you spoke to last year said that they had never seen our books…did they ever ask? Not likely. As a non-profit organization the law requires our books to be made available upon request. I am sure that if they had asked and we didn’t turn them over, you would have read about it here! This year, festival committee members attended no less than 20 hours of city council planning and finance committee meetings to answer questions and request services. Actually, I believe that every year up until this year, we have had a city employee of some level serving on one or more of our committees.
VF Volunteer

Dublin, OH

#28 Jul 11, 2010
Marvin part 2

As far as our entertainment is concerned…we have always tried to keep entertainment quality at a level that will keep the costs at a minimum. We have had acts that have filled the park full of people. Eddy Money brought in so many people, it prompted the search for larger grounds I spoke about above. The LoCash Cowboys, who will be playing this year on Friday, currently have a song that is on Billboard’s Top 50 country chart. If they’re not A material, they’re A-. Trying to bring in the likes of Lady GaGa or the Rolling Stones or Hanna Montana is a ridiculous thought. We have had local bands, national acts, Christian bands, blues and jazz, and bluegrass. Bigger acts would be great but, than we’d be forced to get more sponsors, charge more to get in, require more police and security. I expect you would have a field day with that!

It is obvious to me that you really don’t know much about how this festival works and how much effort it takes to put it on. I just get the feeling that you don’t like the festival – and that’s okay – but, don’t trash the women and men who work extremely hard to throw this party and call them incompetent, disingenuous and dishonest.

I invite you to join us at our planning meetings. They are held on the fourth Monday of EVERY month at 6:30pm at the Town Hall Banquet Room above Park Alley Tavern in Olde Pickerington. There will be one each Monday evening until the festival. If you really do care about the festival and this community, join us and introduce yourself.
VF Volunteer

Dublin, OH

#29 Jul 11, 2010
Wilber wrote:
The movers and shakers of the Violet Festival are having handicap parking at the Grange Hall. I would bet that none of them have sit in a wheel chair at the Grange and rode across Lockville Road and then tried to go down the hill into Victory Park. There is no way this is ADA compliant.
Wilber, we certainly would never want to exlude anyone from entering the festival. Victory Park and the school park, I am sure are ADA Compliant. I assume the city street accesses are ADA compliant. If you are aware of any other compliance issues that we should be aware of, please forward those on to our email address at [email protected]
Marvin

Bellefontaine, OH

#30 Jul 11, 2010
Dear VF Volunteer,
I certainly plan to cut and paste you comments about opening your books to the city government. I am sure the council person I spoke with will be interested in reading your comments.
Here is what has baffled me for years now. Probably the ten years you have volunteered. Did you know that Millersport Ohio has a sweet corn festival and they have sweet corn? Did you know that Reynoldsburg Ohio has a Tomato festival and they have tomatoes? Did you know Obetz has a zucchini festival and they have zucchinis? Then the granddaddy Circleville has a Pumpkin Show and they have Pumpkins? Lots of Pumpkins.
Pickerington and Violet Township have a Violet Festival and the violets are dried out and welted because they bloomed in April. What’s the point or theme of the Violet Festival? Year after year you folks have gone out and set up this Violet Festival and not a one of you has asked the question. Where are the Violets?
In Germany they have an Oktoberfest where the farmer’s grain is brewed into beer and that is what is celebrated. That is the grain for bread and they celebrate by drinking the beer. As we see here in Ohio that seems to fissile out when a bunch of city folks can’t stay out in the cold Ohio October air to drink its beer. They moved it to September now.
Most ventures that plan to make money will normally cut costs or raise the price for their venture. As we can see the Violet Festival has chosen to raise the price. That normally is the beginning of the downward spiral and we will wait to see that check book next year.
You keep saying it cost money to put on this Festival. Who does it appeal to and where do you continue to find the funds to pay for the entertainment?
You know the Lions Club puts on the Labor Day Fish Fry and they are a service organization that supports eye sight. What does the Violet Festival committee support and or sponsor? What is your goal in life and why would I really care? Is it to really support the boy scouts or are you just giving them a take on the parking lot in exchange for free parking lot attendants.
Speaking of the parking lot, why do you folks continue to cover up the Victory Park Parking lot where there are a couple of handicap spaces? I have a grandson that has mobility issues and trying to get across Lockville Road is a real hazard. Normally when we visit the play ground at Victory Park there we can park in that lot. This boy is getting bigger and there is no way I could get him down that ramp into the gravel parking lot. The original idea with handicap spaces was to be close so the person with challenges could make the distance from the parking space to the destination. If we go to Lowe’s we have numerous spaces right up front not across the street and down the hill. Besides are you going to have the boy scouts out there checking for handicap stickers?
Wilber

Bellefontaine, OH

#31 Jul 11, 2010
Marvin,

Unless your grandson is old enough to drink beer this festival is not going to make any special accommodations for you or your grandson. That public parking lot is taken over that week by council members and other so called VIPs. The rest of you can just eat cake.
poobah

Ridgefield, CT

#32 Jul 12, 2010
Picktown proud wrote:
Just wanted to clarify that alcohol is not being sold on school grounds or in Victory Park. Additionally, rides are a dollar on Wednesday or 20.00 all day every day for an unlimited ride pass. The cost to hold an event such as the Violet Festival is very expensive. Trash and portable restrooms cost thousands of dollars alone. The event must pay for entertainment, utilities, tents, and police. Most events charge to enter their event plus additional money to see the entertainment.
This event is ran totally by volunteers, who give their time to the community. I recommend volunteering and help improve the Violet Festival.
Volunteering to help out at the hospitality tent won't change anything. This thing is out of control. Is there really a need for "national acts"?(what they're bringing in isn't very good anyway and I'm sure they are paying a ton for it) Do the organizers think they are running a mini Lolapalooza? An admission fee? So I can spend more money for rides that aren't worth a sh!t while the former convict is at the controls?
It has progressively become worse and worse and will ultimately lead to it's own destruction. I go every year 3-4 times.

I'm not going this year.
ODB

Columbus, OH

#33 Jul 12, 2010
Hey Marvin -

I've got an idea that will make you feel better about the Violet Festival. STAY HOME!!! Geez, you're just another Pickerington snob that thinks everyone wants to hear you complain. The simple truth is that nothing will make you happy, you're miserable in your own existance. That's why all you've done is whine and offer no solution or anything constructive.
VF Volunteer

Dublin, OH

#34 Jul 12, 2010
Sorry Marvin, I have more important things to work on the next couple of weeks. This will have to be my last response.

Your rantings here continue to show your ignorance about the festival, it's history, the purpose, and it's value.

If you're not just a hater, come join us to make it better.
VFV83

Canal Winchester, OH

#35 Jul 12, 2010
I recently became involved with the Violet Festival and did so out of pride for being a Pickerington graduate and also still a very PROUD resident who has a child attending Pickerington North High next year. I AM STICTLY A VOLUNTEER AND DO NOT GET PAID FOR ANY OF MY TIME!! Until you have been involved in an event such as this you have NOT A CLUE what is involved in making an event like this happen..NOT ONE CLUE!!! Negative Karma catches up with you eventually!
VF Supporter

Mount Gilead, OH

#36 Jul 13, 2010
WOW- Wilber & Marvin need to get another hobby! Get over it- aren't you tired of hearing yourselves babble? I know I sure am!
VF Supporter

Mount Gilead, OH

#37 Jul 13, 2010
VFV83 wrote:
I recently became involved with the Violet Festival and did so out of pride for being a Pickerington graduate and also still a very PROUD resident who has a child attending Pickerington North High next year. I AM STICTLY A VOLUNTEER AND DO NOT GET PAID FOR ANY OF MY TIME!! Until you have been involved in an event such as this you have NOT A CLUE what is involved in making an event like this happen..NOT ONE CLUE!!! Negative Karma catches up with you eventually!
And we all know Karma is a bit--!
Corned Beef Hash

Bellefontaine, OH

#38 Jul 18, 2010
There sure seems to be a lot of negative posters about the Violet Festival. My view is if you don't like this or that about The Violet Festival why not just stay home. It is a Community Event put on by volunteers, much like the Lions Club puts on the Labor Day Fish Fry. The primary difference is that the Lions Club never has felt the need to sell alcohol to remain successful.

Maybe the difference is that they prepare and sell the food, and use the proceeds from the food sales to support their community service work. So one posters point about products associated with other communities names might be worthy of consideration.
If the food sales were something provided by the Festival volunteers rather than farmed out carney food there would be less of a need to rely so heavily on beer sales for profitability.

The Violet Festival was smart in abandoning their support of requesting Beer Sales in the Park for the Rib Fest.

The Violet Festival is going to be whatever format their Board decides, that's the way it works.

If you like whatever that format is please support it and attend. If you do not like the format plaese do not go.

Bashing those who make a good faith effort to provide a community event in Pickerington does not serve any useful purpose.

We can all discuss the finer points of how to run the festival, but if you feel so strongly about it why not volunteer and provide your input to make your point.

My personal preference would be to find a food product, rename the festival to include the food item,(IE "The Violet Corned Beef Hash Festival" ), and de emphasize the alcohol sales.

I will still support the Violet Festival by attending, because I believe it is a good recreational outlet for our community as a whole, I don't see myself consuming any beer though.

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