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Party of the rich still remains to be the GOP

There are 81 comments on the The Paradise Post story from Dec 4, 2010, titled Party of the rich still remains to be the GOP. In it, The Paradise Post reports that:

SINCE THE TIME OF FDR the Republican Party has been known as "the rich man's party." The GOP has been trying to live down this sobriquet for decades, with varying degrees of success.

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jaime

Chico, CA

#21 Dec 6, 2010
Questions wrote:
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My opinions were handed to me by my parents, thank you; and they have worked very well for me. So, how is all that "higher ideals, grander notions, and hopeful aspirations" working for you?
I talk about economics because it IS the basis for success in calling the tune for yourself as well as others. How many poor people do you know who have the where-with-all to be philanthropic?
You sound like someone from "la-la" land. What are you injesting?
Questions says his opinions were "handed to [him] by his parents."
Don't you think it might be time to grow up, Questions, and try thinking for yourself. Just because your parents were older than you doesn't mean they'd necessarily figured everything out once and for all. You might even ask yourself what is gained by sneering at "higher ideals, grander notions, and hopeful aspirations."
C'mon, man, it's Christmas. Scrooge is hardly the most noble role model you could choose for yourself.
Howard

United States

#22 Dec 6, 2010
Jaime,

You keep accusing people of "sneering". You are the one doing the sneering, man. You are very bitter. Yet, I doubt you will admit it or even have the capability to see it in yourself.
Stephen Rose

United States

#23 Dec 6, 2010
Questions wrote:
Jaime, have you ever considered that you, and your political ilk, are probably a huge hindrance to those who need to quit looking for that "hand out" and start preparing to take an active part in their own future?
It's people like you who preach class envy, with your "us vs. them" attitude, that guarantees a permanent underclass who believe there is nothing they can do to improve their situation. That "class envy", if and when it gets out of control, will be pretty ugly!
For your information, Jaime, there are just as many rich Democrats as there are Republicans, and I have never heard of one of them who paid extra taxes, voluntarily, to help the poor. I sure don't mind helping those, who are physically or mentally incapable of helping themselves, thru no fault of their own, but that does not include those strung out on dope or those who find it easier to sit back and wait for the government to hand them a job they like, or to just give them money. Gena and Michael seem to be pretty good examples of the latter. For instance, Jaime, why are we just handing out unemployment checks when there are so many needs that these people could fill while looking for work. Consider clearing fire hazards around town, assisting the elderly, growing food for themselves and those unable to maintain a garden. And on, and on. That way, the unemployed would not loose their sense of pride and desire to be productive.


Time for a reality check Questions. The world population now is almost 7 billion, and our national population is approaching 311 million, both growing exponentially. These numbers alone predict the ensuing scarcity of jobs, compounded by the fact that the corporate entity is religiously seeking to create jobs only in places where it gets the greatest tax breaks, can pay the lowest salaries, and offer the least benefits.

Just how long do you believe that even hard working, conscientious and well intentioned workers are going to be able to find any kind of work? And how do you think millions are going to survive without some kind of subsidies for food, health care and shelter in a future marked by huge populations and a scarcity of jobs and resources?
Chris

Chico, CA

#24 Dec 6, 2010
Hey y'all...how about that lottery!!!!!!

We could all be rich....anyday now....

I have heard it said that the California Lottery is a special tax on those who don't know math very well....

But...hey...anyday now....lol...
Howard

United States

#25 Dec 6, 2010
Stephen Rose wrote:
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These numbers alone predict the ensuing scarcity of jobs, compounded by the fact that the corporate entity is religiously seeking to create jobs only in places where it gets the greatest tax breaks, can pay the lowest salaries, and offer the least benefits.
It seems to me that our .gov is the one chasing jobs over-seas. On purpose. They think they can solve world poverty by giving them our jobs. They think that by joining ourselves at the hip with the rest of the world it will make world peace a reality via "common interest". A new world order.

Do you really expect "big business" to fall on their swords and die a slow death due to being uncompetitive. Brought about by our own .gov and out of control union costs.

I think the blame lies on the government. To much meddling and social engineering.
Howard

United States

#26 Dec 6, 2010
Chris wrote:
Hey y'all...how about that lottery!!!!!!
We could all be rich....anyday now....
I have heard it said that the California Lottery is a special tax on those who don't know math very well....
But...hey...anyday now....lol...
One dollar a draw doesn't hurt.:-)
Stephen Rose

United States

#27 Dec 6, 2010
Chris wrote:
Hey y'all...how about that lottery!!!!!!
We could all be rich....anyday now....
I have heard it said that the California Lottery is a special tax on those who don't know math very well....
But...hey...anyday now....lol...
Ah yes, the lottery rip off! I stopped buying lotto tickets because it was easier to burn two dollar bills at home than to take the time and gas to go buy two tickets each week. The end result was just the same.

I did run a sort of lottery consortium at one particular job about fifteen years ago, figuring there would be greater odds of actually winning something. There were twenty employees, each paying out eight dollars a month; that's two lottery tickets each week of the month, at a total of $160 and 160 tickets per month. In ten years we won relative nada. Once we had five numbers, and it paid $1200, which when divided among us didn't even fully pay for the next month's tickets.

The lotto should pay out $1000 and $10,000 prices, not million dollar pay-offs. This would greatly increase the odds of any particular person winning something worthwhile. They way it's set up now the lotto is nothing than an appeal to people who can't afford it to waste what little they have "hoping" for a miracle which is rarer than getting hit by a couple of lightning bolts in the same day.
Stephen Rose

United States

#28 Dec 6, 2010
Howard wrote:
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It seems to me that our .gov is the one chasing jobs over-seas. On purpose. They think they can solve world poverty by giving them our jobs. They think that by joining ourselves at the hip with the rest of the world it will make world peace a reality via "common interest". A new world order.
Do you really expect "big business" to fall on their swords and die a slow death due to being uncompetitive. Brought about by our own .gov and out of control union costs.
I think the blame lies on the government. To much meddling and social engineering.
Yeah, big business is sure hurting. They recorded record profits last quarter, while the rest of the nation is struggling simply to survive. And "if" our government is chasing jobs overseas (please tell us more about all of those), let's thank the corporate owned government hacks/harlots in Congress always look for some way to give their corporate masters some "unneeded" tax relief. And funny how the income of the very wealthy has steadily increased, till doubling, over the past three decades while everyone else's income has straight lined.

And stop with the "social" engineering crapola, it's getting very old. Entitlement programs for millions in a world of steadily increasing population and decreasing jobs, has nothing to do with Socialism, Communism, Marxism, etc.,etc.. This right wing mantra is as tedious and untrue as it is manipulative and misinforming.

And sure blame the unions for fighting for the smaller wage earners. Howard, start listening to some reliable news sources, and drag yourself away from the extremist right wing lying BS rhetoric for a change. You might find the change refreshing!
Questions

Chico, CA

#29 Dec 6, 2010
Questions wrote:
<quoted text>
My opinions were handed to me by my parents, thank you; and they have worked very well for me. So, how is all that "higher ideals, grander notions, and hopeful aspirations" working for you?
I talk about economics because it IS the basis for success in calling the tune for yourself as well as others. How many poor people do you know who have the where-with-all to be philanthropic?
You sound like someone from "la-la" land. What are you injesting?

Jaime answered:
"Questions says his opinions were "handed to [him] by his parents."
Don't you think it might be time to grow up, Questions, and try thinking for yourself. Just because your parents were older than you doesn't mean they'd necessarily figured everything out once and for all. You might even ask yourself what is gained by sneering at "higher ideals, grander notions, and hopeful aspirations."
C'mon, man, it's Christmas. Scrooge is hardly the most noble role model you could choose for yourself."

Now, if I were Jaime, I would be whining that jaime was des-respecting my parents,( which he has whined about on numerous occasions). However, I have found, over the years that my parents handed down some pretty level headed advise. Anyone reading back on my previous posts can see that Jaime chooses not to discuss the pertinent points of my posts, in favor of opining on the value of good parenthood, or lack thereof, and defending "pie in the sky" ideals that were not backed up by down to earth actions. Jaime, Rose, et. el. never debate, they just regurgitate the liberal mantra and actually believe that their "Robin Hood" theories are the answer to America's problems. Sorry guys; I'm not buying it !!!!

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#30 Dec 6, 2010
jaime wrote:
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I thought you folks on the hysterical right thought Obama was a Muslim.
Are you questioning the statement(s) made from the pulpit by the Reverend Jeremiah Wright? How soon we've forgotten.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#31 Dec 6, 2010
RE Column: "Party of the rich still remains to be the GOP."

I have yet to have the poor to offer me a job.

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#32 Dec 6, 2010
Howard wrote:
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One dollar a draw doesn't hurt.:-)
A dollar for a dream.
Dode Penrod

AOL

#33 Dec 7, 2010
Publius2 wrote:
<quoted text>Are you questioning the statement(s) made from the pulpit by the Reverend Jeremiah Wright? How soon we've forgotten.
Hey, Pub, come down off your high-horse. The Reverend Jeremiah Wright does not run our country. Karl Rove comes closer to running our country than the Rev. Bush (advised by Rove and Cheney) put our country into the mess we're in today. So rant on. Facts remain facts.
Chris

Chico, CA

#34 Dec 7, 2010
Publius2 wrote:
<quoted text>A dollar for a dream.
Darn it!...
Here I have been going around offering everyone a penny for their thoughts...
Inflation hoovers!
Dode Penrod

AOL

#35 Dec 7, 2010
Chris wrote:
<quoted text>
Darn it!...
Here I have been going around offering everyone a penny for their thoughts...
Inflation hoovers!
Didn't the Hoovers go out with the Big Depression in '29?

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#36 Dec 7, 2010
Stephen Rose wrote:
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Time for a reality check Questions. The world population now is almost 7 billion, and our national population is approaching 311 million, both growing exponentially. These numbers alone predict the ensuing scarcity of jobs,
You mean a scarcity of government jobs, don't you?
Stephen Rose wrote:
compounded by the fact that the corporate entity is religiously seeking to create jobs only in places where it gets the greatest tax breaks, can pay the lowest salaries, and offer the least benefits.
Do you think someone (some rich guy - probably, according to you a Republican) would actually start a business without expecting to make some profit? I see, you really do believe that business should take the place of a charitable organization, don't you?
Stephen Rose wrote:
Just how long do you believe that even hard working, conscientious and well intentioned workers are going to be able to find any kind of work?
Probably as long as there are rich Republicans who can afford to start up a business.
Stephen Rose wrote:
And how do you think millions are going to survive without some kind of subsidies for food, health care and shelter in a future marked by huge populations and a scarcity of jobs and resources?
Just who do you think is going to pay for those subsidies? Some government official? Some big union? No, its going to be some entrepreneur who isn't afraid to sink his own money into a business meeting a need with the prospect of making a buck like its always been. Now, these entrepreneur's, especially here in California have to keep looking over their shoulders for some vulturous government bureaucrat regulating them out of business.
Chris

Chico, CA

#37 Dec 7, 2010
Dode Penrod wrote:
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Didn't the Hoovers go out with the Big Depression in '29?
Yes....To bypass the four letter word starting with S and moving on with U and then C and ending with K we use the word HOOVER in my family...you can tell I have kids!...
But...I do agree that old Hoover himself will forever be tarnished with the Great Depression (GD)...mostly for taking so long to react to the problem...not making the problem itself...
Like most things in life...The GD was very complex...with many causes...The education system under the General Education process does a big injustice to history...

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#38 Dec 7, 2010
Dode Penrod wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey, Pub, come down off your high-horse. The Reverend Jeremiah Wright does not run our country. Karl Rove comes closer to running our country than the Rev. Bush (advised by Rove and Cheney) put our country into the mess we're in today. So rant on. Facts remain facts.
The president said that Jeremiah Wright was his mentor. That carries more weight than Rove - don't you think?

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#39 Dec 7, 2010
Chris wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes....To bypass the four letter word starting with S and moving on with U and then C and ending with K we use the word HOOVER in my family...you can tell I have kids!...
But...I do agree that old Hoover himself will forever be tarnished with the Great Depression (GD)...mostly for taking so long to react to the problem...not making the problem itself...
Like most things in life...The GD was very complex...with many causes...The education system under the General Education process does a big injustice to history...
Hoover's biggest problem was not effectively blaming the previous administration - a lesson not lost on B. Hussein Obama.
Dode Penrod

AOL

#40 Dec 7, 2010
Publius2 wrote: "Just who do you think is going to pay for those subsidies? Some government official? Some big union? No, its going to be some entrepreneur who isn't afraid to sink his own money into a business meeting a need with the prospect of making a buck like its always been. Now, these entrepreneur's, especially here in California have to keep looking over their shoulders for some vulturous government bureaucrat regulating them out of business."

I can see how you will never be one of those entrepreneurs if you think you have to use your own money to start a business. Ask The Donald how much of his own money he uses to start up businesses. Also, you overlook the fact that most jobs come from already established corporations which are run by CEO's who not only do NOT put their own money into the company they work for, they get huge salaries that have nothing to do with the P&L statement, as well as stock options that make them ever so much richer when the wind blows in the right direction.

Remember the big auto CEOs who each arrived by private jet for the Congressional hearings?

Pub, do you make copies of the things you write on these forums and send them off to a list of wealthy people to let them know how you are fighting their "cause" on the Ridge?

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